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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

Clinton committed perjury, which was the source of his problems, not sex. And it was the Democrats and their media who went after Monica and Linda Tripp, not the Republicans. All these facts should be well known.

What you are saying is that the Republicans never used Monica as a tool to bring down Bill? And I say bull**** to that.
 
What you are saying is that the Republicans never used Monica as a tool to bring down Bill? And I say bull**** to that.

As much as I respected the job Clinton did as President, the Republicans didn't force him to lie under oath, and whether they "used" her or not doesn't change that.
 
It would be great if Obama was more like Clinton in that regard. Reagan and O'Neill worked famously together as well. Obama wants to move forward with agendas the majority of people don't want.

You seriously think the problem is lopsided AGAINST Obama???:lamo

Where Obama has gotten in trouble with the left is that he has given away too much.
 
"Real Harm" It was a consensual blowjob. She even said so herself.

I'm not defending Bills actions here, but the way you are speaking its as if he raped her.

The real harm was done when the Republicans tried to exploit her and the situation for political gain. Along with the media, they were the ones who caused the real harm.

Clinton committed perjury, which was the source of his problems, not sex. And it was the Democrats and their media who went after Monica and Linda Tripp, not the Republicans. All these facts should be well known.

What you are saying is that the Republicans never used Monica as a tool to bring down Bill? And I say bull**** to that.

As much as I respected the job Clinton did as President, the Republicans didn't force him to lie under oath, and whether they "used" her or not doesn't change that.

He only was able to perjure himself because the Republicans took Monica and turned her into a tool for political gain. Sure, what got him in the most trouble was perjuring himself, but the intent all along was to bring Clinton down, and assure that the next president was a republican. They did this using Monica as a tool, and MaggieD's original post that I was commenting on was trying to label her as the victim of Bill, which I was arguing she was more a victim of the Republicans and the Media.
 
He only was able to perjure himself because the Republicans took Monica and turned her into a tool for political gain. Sure, what got him in the most trouble was perjuring himself, but the intent all along was to bring Clinton down, and assure that the next president was a republican. They did this using Monica as a tool, and MaggieD's original post that I was commenting on was trying to label her as the victim of Bill, which I was arguing she was more a victim of the Republicans and the Media.

He was able to perjure himself because he was able to utter words that weren't true. Nobody forced him to do that.

It doesn't have anything to do with Monica.
 
He only was able to perjure himself because the Republicans took Monica and turned her into a tool for political gain.

He was able to perjure himself because he had no problem looking straight at the cameras and lying to the American people. Nobody forced Bill Clinton to lie. Please don't blame Republicans or Monica or anybody else but Bill Clinton for his lies. That was his choice and his character failing alone.
 
He was able to perjure himself because he had no problem looking straight at the cameras and lying to the American people. Nobody forced Bill Clinton to lie. Please don't blame Republicans or Monica or anybody else but Bill Clinton for his lies. That was his choice and his character failing alone.

I dont really give a **** about his perjury. That had nothing to do with the point I was trying to make but you conservatives come in here, read one of my posts and all you want to talk about is his damn perjury. Why don't you read the conversation instead of only the part of me defending my previous statements.

Answer me this, would he have ever had the opportunity to perjure himself had there not been a witch hunt?
 
and i am one of them


what caused this to go public

Clinton v. Jones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you are being sued for sexual harrassment of one of your employees, you can be damn certain that your boinking of an intern is pertinent to the case. Further, if you lie about it to the court, ask other witnesses to lie about it, and/or try to hide behind the power of your office, your career is not likely to survive unless your name is Bill Clinton.
 
Where's the sexual harassment if she wanted it? Anyway this thread is about the humiliation Lewinsky suffered from media, politicians, and the public, all because of a blowjob.

I don't believe anyone is claiming that Clinton harassed Monica. Both Clinton and Lewinski lied to the court about their relationship in an effort to protect the president from a sexual harassment lawsuit (brought by another of his employees). If Lewinsky had told the truth from the beginning, she might have suffered Clinton's wrath, but then again he might have been convicted after impeachment and she'd have a sure-fire book deal.
 
I dont really give a **** about his perjury. That had nothing to do with the point I was trying to make but you conservatives come in here, read one of my posts and all you want to talk about is his damn perjury. Why don't you read the conversation instead of only the part of me defending my previous statements.

Answer me this, would he have ever had the opportunity to perjure himself had there not been a witch hunt?

Yes. He did not want to lose the sexual harassment case that was brought against him, so he did not want a judge/jury to know that he was boinking an intern. He tried to use his office to prevent the suit from going forward and when that didn't work, he lied about it in a deposition. What does that have to do with your perceived witch hunt?
 
What you are saying is that the Republicans never used Monica as a tool to bring down Bill? And I say bull**** to that.

Bill Clinton brought himself down. He and his wife also tried to ruin the reputation of the woman, and succeeded at that very well.
 
Bill Clinton brought himself down. He and his wife also tried to ruin the reputation of the woman, and succeeded at that very well.

And yet, even brought down, he was a very successful POTUS.
 
And yet, even brought down, he was a very successful POTUS.

It was Monica Lewinsky who was brought dwn by the Clinton political machine, as was Linda Tripp.

Yes, both Clintons have done very well and have made millions, probably billions..

But for those two women, and the fact that a major American political party now happily accepts and defends a continuance of lying in their ranks, it is not so good.
 
It was Monica Lewinsky who was brought dwn by the Clinton political machine, as was Linda Tripp.

Yes, both Clintons have done very well and have made millions, probably billions..

But for those two women, and the fact that a major American political party now happily accepts and defends a continuance of lying in their ranks, it is not so good.

Good Lord, Monica seems to bear no responsibility for her own actions to some people here,
 
Good Lord, Monica seems to bear no responsibility for her own actions to some people here,

This was my original point, but all the conservatives seem to want to talk about was him perjuring himself.. They either can't read or don't want to accept that a 19 year old has free will.
 
Good Lord, Monica seems to bear no responsibility for her own actions to some people here,

It's not about Monica Lewinsky. She was not the leader of the free world or in any position of power. Nor did she commit perjury by lying to the American people and a Grand Jury. You've unwittingly explained what America has lost because of the behavior of the Clintons and, now, the Obama's.
 
"Real Harm" It was a consensual blowjob. She even said so herself.

I'm not defending Bills actions here, but the way you are speaking its as if he raped her.

The real harm was done when the Republicans tried to exploit her and the situation for political gain. Along with the media, they were the ones who caused the real harm.

How can there be any other point? Monica Lewinsky certainly did not commit perjury and had she not kept that dress she would have been known as 'that woman'. Clinton, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman... - YouTube

OMG... here I did it for you.. My original post to Maggie D before you all started jumpin in without reading what the original question was about..

That was my point, I never said anything about perjury but you guys cant stop talking about it like its the only ****ing issue that matters.
 
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It's not about Monica Lewinsky. She was not the leader of the free world or in any position of power. Nor did she commit perjury by lying to the American people and a Grand Jury. You've unwittingly explained what America has lost because of the behavior of the Clintons and, now, the Obama's.

uhmm according to the original post this is about Monica Lewinsky..

Read the title of this thread.
 
Did Hillary commit perjury?

I mean this whole thing is about 2016, right?

Hillary did not commit perjury in front of a Grand Jury like her husband did but she is a known liar. If this is not about 2016 it certainly should be. Or does character really not matter anymore?
 
Hillary did not commit perjury in front of a Grand Jury like her husband did but she is a known liar. If this is not about 2016 it certainly should be. Or does character really not matter anymore?

A politician lying? No. Say it isn't so.:lamo

Some lie, some create zones of plausible deniability.
 
OMG... here I did it for you.. My original post to Maggie D before you all started jumpin in without reading what the original question was about..

That was my point, I never said anything about perjury but you guys cant stop talking about it like its the only ****ing issue that matters.

A President of the United States was impeached because of his perjury. You probably wouldn't know Lewinsky's name if not for this fact, and that's what makes Lewinsky breaking her silence newsworthy.
 
A President of the United States was impeached because of his perjury. You probably wouldn't know Lewinsky's name if not for this fact, and that's what makes Lewinsky breaking her silence newsworthy.

BULL****. Before the impeachment it was all over the headlines.

Monica breaking her silence is just making folks remember again. It was her decision (unless you listen to some on this board that indicate the hole thing resurfacing is a conspiracy theory that has Clinton masterminding the return of this affair - and Monica is just a puppet)
 
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