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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

Grant said:
Hillary would not have a political career if it wasn't for Bill Clinton. She would not have profited if she walked out on Bill Clinton when his escapades, and perjury, became public. She swallowed, and continued on with her career.
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no, monica swallowed, and the clinton's continued to pursue their political careers
 
MaggieD said:
Monica Lewinski was used and abused by the President of the United States. She was barely an adult. He should, for the rest of his sorry life, be embarrassed by his actions. He's a scum bag. So's his wife.
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I agree, she was barely no longer a kid and exploited by a father-figure. Very disappointing. Even if she was the little flirt and the President was pursued, he should have been the adult, put back the cigar box and got her reassigned to a department with a strong female mentor.

Funny how times change. Back then it was the democrats who was crazy embarrassments and the republicans were the statesmen. Today its the opposite.
 
FederalRepublic said:
Well, she was an unpaid intern when she said her relationship with Bill started. The next month she had a paid position. A few months later, she got moved out of the white house. None of that is proof of sexual harassment, but it could certainly be an indication.
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As I've posted earlier, it was during the Clinton admins that workplace sexual harassment laws went into effect, and this is one of the ironies--that this same President took advantage of one of his own interns. There is an inherent abuse of power when a boss sleeps with an intern or other low-ranking employee, even if the sex was consensual.
 
vesper said:
This month in Vanity Fair, Monica Lewinsky writes about her affair with President Clinton. Hard to believe she is now 40. How time flies when you are having fun. There are excerpts from the article posted online. She delves into the humiliation of it all and addresses at one time contemplating suicide. She was only 19 years of age when the affair began if I recall correctly but makes it very clear the relationship was consensual. My own opinion is that she paid a heavy price for her poor judgment. But at 19 and having a powerful man such as a president coming on to you, well let's just say I have always held Bill Clinton more responsible because of her age. Now Lewinsky says her current goal, “is to get involved with efforts on behalf of victims of online humiliation and harassment as she suffered and to start speaking on this topic in public forums.”

You can read more here.... Exclusive: Monica Lewinsky Writes About Her Affair with President Clinton | Vanity Fair
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monica wasnt a 7 years old child .l dont think clinton forced her to do something she doesnt want to do .

it is not more serious problem than wars l think
 
FederalRepublic said:
Actually, it teaches us that you can sexually harass your employees, lie about sexual relationships with your employees in a deposition when you get sued by your employees, and totally get away with it if you're Bill Clinton.
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Where's the sexual harassment if she wanted it? Anyway this thread is about the humiliation Lewinsky suffered from media, politicians, and the public, all because of a blowjob.
 
year2late said:
Blame one party? Naw, that is just not reality based. Takes two to tango.If it was me, I would first and foremost be pissed at my cheating spouse. But I would have enough "what a bitch" left over for the other woman.

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You'd go after a total stranger? That's funny. And she'd laugh at how pathetic you were.

You keep saying it repeatedly. Monica was not a child and she made her own decision to do this. She wasn't married to Bill. Hillary was. Bill owed Hillary an explanation & an apology. Monica owed Hillary nothing. Monica isn't to blame for the failure in the Clinton marriage. So Hillary would have no reason to be mad at Monica other than projecting her failure onto Monica.
 
tres borrachos said:
You'd go after a total stranger? That's funny. And she'd laugh at how pathetic you were.

You keep saying it repeatedly. Monica was not a child and she made her own decision to do this. She wasn't married to Bill. Hillary was. Bill owed Hillary an explanation & an apology. Monica owed Hillary nothing. Monica isn't to blame for the failure in the Clinton marriage. So Hillary would have no reason to be mad at Monica other than projecting her failure onto Monica.
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I'm going to have to disagree; I think Monica does owe Hillary and the other wronged wife an apology--unless, of course, Monica doesn't think she did anything wrong by sleeping with another woman's husband.
 
nota bene said:
I'm going to have to disagree; I think Monica does owe Hillary and the other wronged wife an apology--unless, of course, Monica doesn't think she did anything wrong by sleeping with another woman's husband.
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She would only owe her an apology if she had a relationship with her - they were friends, they were relatives, whatever. As strangers, they had no relationship, and she has nothing to apologize for. He had a relationship with Hillary, he took vows, he owed her something. Monica owed her no more than she owes me or you.

Plus, as a 22 year old, like that poster keeps saying, Monica was free to sleep with whomever she chose to, and she did just that. It's neither illegal nor immoral for a single 22 year old to have sex. It is immoral for a married 50 year old man to have sex with another woman.

Nobody should apologize for doing something that is their right to do.
 
tres borrachos said:
You'd go after a total stranger? That's funny. And she'd laugh at how pathetic you were.

You keep saying it repeatedly. Monica was not a child and she made her own decision to do this. She wasn't married to Bill. Hillary was. Bill owed Hillary an explanation & an apology. Monica owed Hillary nothing. Monica isn't to blame for the failure in the Clinton marriage. So Hillary would have no reason to be mad at Monica other than projecting her failure onto Monica.
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Wow now Bill cheating is Hilarys failure?:cool::lamo


By the way...I think the "what a bitch" didn't need to be directly said to her.

Nothing wrong with her having angry feelings towards the mistress. (and of course massive anger towards her spouse)
 
year2late said:
Wow now Bill cheating is Hilarys failure?:cool::lamo


By the way...I think the "what a bitch" didn't need to be directly said to her.

Nothing wrong with her having angry feelings towards the mistress. (and of course massive anger towards her spouse)
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Someone has reading comprehension problems, I see.

Let me help you out.

Monica isn't to blame for the failure in the Clinton marriage. You even quoted my post that said that.

The Clinton marriage failure. Get it now? The marriage failure was Bill's failure.

Good grief.
 
But the marriage didn't fail, they are still together.

Cheating, or doing what has already been agreed on, doesn't equal failing necessarily.
 
tres borrachos said:
She would only owe her an apology if she had a relationship with her - they were friends, they were relatives, whatever. As strangers, they had no relationship, and she has nothing to apologize for. He had a relationship with Hillary, he took vows, he owed her something. Monica owed her no more than she owes me or you.

Plus, as a 22 year old, like that poster keeps saying, Monica was free to sleep with whomever she chose to, and she did just that. It's neither illegal nor immoral for a single 22 year old to have sex. It is immoral for a married 50 year old man to have sex with another woman.

Nobody should apologize for doing something that is their right to do.
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Well, I guess we'll have to disagree again because I don't think it's anybody's right to sleep with someone else's spouse. In fact, I think it's a wrong.
 
nota bene said:
Well, I guess we'll have to disagree again because I don't think it's anybody's right to sleep with someone else's spouse. In fact, I think it's a wrong.
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I am sure anyone who says otherwise would have plenty to say about the young woman sleeping with their husband, if they did not agree to it that is.
 
americanwoman said:
But the marriage didn't fail, they are still together.

Cheating, or doing what has already been agreed on, doesn't equal failing necessarily.
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Failure to honor vows, would probably be a better way to say it. I take vows seriously, which is why I took the marriage ones.
 
tres borrachos said:
Failure to honor vows, would probably be a better way to say it. I take vows seriously, which is why I took the marriage ones.
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Marriage vows are different for everyone and monogamy doesn't really have to be part of those vows for some. I'm not saying it's right or wrong because if that what makes some people happy and it's good for both of them, then that's fine with me.
 
nota bene said:
Well, I guess we'll have to disagree again because I don't think it's anybody's right to sleep with someone else's spouse. In fact, I think it's a wrong.
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That's okay. I'm not interested in agreeing with everyone. Marriage is a personal issue to me. My marriage involves only me & my husband, and nobody else.

Our husbands are tempted daily by other women. It's the man's fault if he gives in to the temptation. I wouldn't attempt to shift blame to someone who doesn't even know me. The blame would be his, not mine and not the other woman's. Just like in the Clinton's case, it's Bill's, not Hillary's.

I also believe that women are free to sleep with whomever they chose. It's an invasion of privacy to dictate who a 22 year old sleeps with. Her choice, not mine.
 
tres borrachos said:
Failure to honor vows, would probably be a better way to say it. I take vows seriously, which is why I took the marriage ones.
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Politicians do not take vows, public policy statements or campaign promises seriously. ;)
 
americanwoman said:
Marriage vows are different for everyone and monogamy doesn't really have to be part of those vows for some. I'm not saying it's right or wrong because if that what makes some people happy and it's good for both of them, then that's fine with me.
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Obviously Bill doesn't believe in monogamy, which is his choice. Hillary forgave him for it so maybe monogamy isn't her thing either.

But the issue of monogamy is between the spouses. Monica didn't take a vow of monogamy, did she?
 
americanwoman said:
But the marriage didn't fail, they are still together.

Cheating, or doing what has already been agreed on, doesn't equal failing necessarily.
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As I've said previously, I've no doubt that the Clintons have long had an "understanding," one that generally has worked very well for them.

But I lost all respect for Hillary because of the way she handled the Lewinsky affair. Whatever their "arrangement," she should have kicked him to the curb for that.
 
tres borrachos said:
I would. I'd kick my husband's ass all over the Eastern seaboard.
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And yet you would still feel absolutely nothing for the woman? Even if she was a beautiful young woman who had told people prior to it happening that she was making it a goal to sleep with him?
 
americanwoman said:
And yet you would still feel absolutely nothing for the woman? Even if she was a beautiful young woman who had told people prior to it happening that she was making it a goal to sleep with him?
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Not at all. I might hate her for being younger and prettier than I am, but the responsibility to me would lie with my husband and not her.

As I said, it isn't my business who adult women sleep with. It isn't anyone's business who believes in the right to privacy.
 
NoC_T said:
You have to love the claim that he was somehow 'more' to blame than she was. As though she were some innocent, clueless victim of an unscrupulous predator. Snow White. There is no taking advantage without rape. She was a home-wrecking whore and he was a cheating douchebag. End of.
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Back up the truck NoC_T.

That isn't the end of the story.

The abuse Lewinsky endured came after the affair when the powerful did everything they could to trash the woman and every other woman Bill Clinton has screwed. Clinton isn't just a douchebag, he is a sexual predator. And all the women that were misfortunate enough to get involved with him paid a huge price and none more than Lewinsky. While the powerful chewed them up and spit them out, Clinton goes on to make millions off his book, speaking engagements and living the good life. And the women the Clintonites were so willing to destroy painting them out to be bimbos, stalkers, sluts, trailer trash etc. assigned them to a life of humiliation while ole Billy boy is awarded by being the superstar speaker at the last Democrat Convention.
 
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