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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

vesper said:
Who is trying to take it away? Are you so perfect that you can judge her and justify the relentless humiliation she has encountered over her wrongdoing? Seventeen years of this crap she has put up with and the last 10 years has been silent on the matter. Today still being called a loony tune by the Clinton apologists who have yet to take personal responsibility for destroying any woman who succumbed to Clinton's advances.
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seems you are so 'perfect' that you have conferred upon yourself the ability to judge bill
 
justabubba said:
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seems you are so 'perfect' that you have conferred upon yourself the ability to judge bill
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Frankly....I judge BOTH OF them. They BOTH new better. Monica new better when she had her first (and prolonged) affair with a married man. She knew better when she flirted and snapped her thong and the POTUS - and their mutual sexcapades began.

And clearly Bill knew better - with each and every one of his multiple adulterous affairs.

Yeah, I judge. I judge them both.

I question the motive of Monica for agreeing to this. Who the hell even cared about her anymore?

The only reason we are talking now is because SHE allowed this to be out there.

Who the hell cared anymore?????
 
year2late said:
First of all...until this came out, I had not even heard about her for years.

Second of all, she had affairs with MARRIED MEN...they wounds were self inflicted.

And frankly, she was no idiot. She was screwing around with the POTUS! What did she think would happen.

I refuse to be bothered by self inflicted wounds. Sad fact, many self inflicted wounds occur in early adulthood. You carry them with you, they cannot go away. But frankly = IMHO - putting this all out there when really and truly very people gave a **** anymore...just dragged to the surface what millions had long since forgot!
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You have a convenient memory. In 2004 the whole affair was ratchet up once more by Bill Clinton in the release of his autobiography where he pretty much decimated her character. It was just this February thAT Rand Paul invoked the name "Lewinsky" responding to Clinton and Democrat's allegations that Republicans had a "WAR ON WOMEN". In which he replied ""If (Democrats) want to take a position on women's rights, by all means do. But you can't do it and take it from a guy who was using his position of authority to take advantage of young women in the workplace," On NBC Meet the Press last month Rand was asked if Bill Clinton's past should be a consideration in a potential second presidential bid by his wife, Paul said he's "not saying that," but "sometimes it's hard to separate one from the other." When it comes to judging Bill Clinton's legacy, however, Paul said the affair should certainly be considered a factor. And then there was a report just a few weeks ago about the release of some public documents stored at the University of Arkansas library that detail some of Hillary Clinton's discussions with a close friend, Diane Blair, at the time. Clinton told Blair that Lewinsky was a "narcissistic loony toon." Ironically that is what the Clinton groupies are calling her in their hit pieces. Lewinsky is a threat to Hillary. So apparently Lewinsky will not have any peace as long as the Clintons are in the lime-light. With her name thrusted back into the news after remaining silent for 10 years she writes an article for Vanity Fair to set the record straight and because of what she has had to endure through the bullying of powerful people wants to speak in a public forum against it. And the same people who humiliated/bullied her for 17 years are the same folks who trashed her for coming to her own defense in the Vanity Fair article. I did read today she is shopping for a tell all book. I bet that has got the Clintons shaking in their boots. I hope to goodness she does it and makes millions on it. NO ONE should ever have to go through what that woman has over mistakes she made in her youth. There's a very long list of women the Clintonites have trashed over succumbing to Billy Boy's advances. I hope Monica remembers them too. After all every woman on that list was a registered Democrat. Let Hillary stick that in her pipe and smoke it.
 
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vesper said:
You have a convenient memory. In 2004 the whole affair was ratchet up once more by Bill Clinton in the release of his autobiography where he pretty much decimated her character. It was just this February thAT Rand Paul invoked the name "Lewinsky" responding to Clinton and Democrat's allegations that Republicans had a "WAR ON WOMEN". In which he replied ""If (Democrats) want to take a position on women's rights, by all means do. But you can't do it and take it from a guy who was using his position of authority to take advantage of young women in the workplace," On NBC Meet the Press last month Rand was asked if Bill Clinton's past should be a consideration in a potential second presidential bid by his wife, Paul said he's "not saying that," but "sometimes it's hard to separate one from the other." When it comes to judging Bill Clinton's legacy, however, Paul said the affair should certainly be considered a factor. And then there was a report just a few weeks ago about the release of some public documents stored at the University of Arkansas library that detail some of Hillary Clinton's discussions with a close friend, Diane Blair, at the time. Clinton told Blair that Lewinsky was a "narcissistic loony toon." Ironically that is what the Clinton groupies are calling her in their hit pieces. Lewinsky is a threat to Hillary. So apparently Lewinsky will not have any peace as long as the Clintons are in the lime-light. With her name thrusted back into the news after remaining silent for 10 years she writes an article for Vanity Fair to set the record straight and because of what she has had to endure through the bullying of powerful people wants to speak in a public forum against it. And the same people who humiliated/bullied her for 17 years are the same folks who trashed her for coming to her own defense in the Vanity Fair article. I did read today she is shopping for a tell all book. I bet that has got the Clintons shaking in their boots. I hope to goodness she does it and makes millions on it. NO ONE should ever have to go through what that woman has over mistakes she made in her youth. There's a very long list of women the Clintonites have trashed over succumbing to Billy Boy's advances. I hope Monica remembers them too. After all every woman on that list was a registered Democrat. Let Hillary stick that in her pipe and smoke it.
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Sorry, you are now talking 10 years ago...do you see what I am getting at? Never read the book. Did you? Never talked to anybody who read it either. 10 years after the book. Nobody cares and she is out there bringing it up herself again.

And frankly...what defense? She had (at least) 2 affairs with married men. Unless it was rape or blackmail (then it would be a crime not a mutual lustfest)she was a more than willing participant. Her behavior was atrocious in both affairs as was the behavior of both men involved. She is just rehashing it again.
 
year2late said:
Sorry, you are now talking 10 years ago...do you see what I am getting at? Never read the book. Did you? Never talked to anybody who read it either. 10 years after the book. Nobody cares and she is out there bringing it up herself again.

And frankly...what defense? She had (at least) 2 affairs with married men. Unless it was rape or blackmail (then it would be a crime not a mutual lustfest)she was a more than willing participant. Her behavior was atrocious in both affairs as was the behavior of both men involved. She is just rehashing it again.
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Clinton's autobiography was covered ad nauseam in the press, especially the excerpts describing his encounters with Lewinsky. Lewinsky countered by giving an interview in London claiming he had a chance to tell the truth in his book and didn't. Geesh the whole affair was once again on the front page of tabloids and magazines everywhere because sex sells. You didn't have to read the book to know what was in it.

Good grief when a powerful older man takes advantage of you in your stupid youth then lies about what occurred blaming the young and dumb one for it destroying what character she had left, that is a good defense. Now her name keeps popping up again because of Hillary possibly running for president and this time she has decided to "not walk on eggshells" in regard to her past. That's got to scare the hell out of them.
 
vesper said:
Clinton's autobiography was covered ad nauseam in the press, especially the excerpts describing his encounters with Lewinsky. Lewinsky countered by giving an interview in London claiming he had a chance to tell the truth in his book and didn't. Geesh the whole affair was on the front page of tabloids and magazines everywhere because sex sells. You didn't have to read the book to know what was in it.

Good grief when a powerful older man takes advantage of you in your stupid youth then lies about what occurred blaming the young and dumb one for it destroying what character she had left, that is a good defense. Now her name keeps popping up again because of Hillary possibly running for president and this time she has decided to "not walk on eggshells" in regard to her past. That's got to scare the hell out of them.
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The only reason her name showed up again in the last year or so was because a friend of Hillary's mentioned Hillary commenting about her. And that would not be the Clintons' fault.

And how long did people talk about Bill's book? A couple of weeks? I didn't even know he mentioned her (barely knew he wrote a book, still couldn't tell you the name). In fact, how much of the book was "devoted" to her at all? Pretty sure she is barely even mentioned in that book. From the reviews I've seen, the scandal only takes up a few pages of the 1008 page memoir.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49195.My_Life

There is no way that they are scared of her "telling all". She has maintained the whole time that it was consensual. The whole world knows the story. What exactly do you think this could possibly do to the Clintons? Everyone knows that Bill is a dog and that Hillary wasn't exactly the most loving woman. It isn't going to be as "shocking" as some may believe. It would be more of a rehash with just a little extra details.
 
vesper said:
Clinton's autobiography was covered ad nauseam in the press, especially the excerpts describing his encounters with Lewinsky. Lewinsky countered by giving an interview in London claiming he had a chance to tell the truth in his book and didn't. Geesh the whole affair was once again on the front page of tabloids and magazines everywhere because sex sells. You didn't have to read the book to know what was in it.

Good grief when a powerful older man takes advantage of you in your stupid youth then lies about what occurred blaming the young and dumb one for it destroying what character she had left, that is a good defense. Now her name keeps popping up again because of Hillary possibly running for president and this time she has decided to "not walk on eggshells" in regard to her past. That's got to scare the hell out of them.
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Again....10 years ago. Where does her name keep popping up????This is the first time I have heard about her in many years!!What does Monica have to do with Hillary? She was the victim of Bill and Monica and weathered the storm.

I am curious....can you site me sources for her name repetitively coming up in the media? Seriously, before this article has she even been on your radar in years??

By the way...who benefits from Monica coming to the forefront again? Dems? Republicans? Monica? Bill? Fox?
 
Why do I get the feeling that if the CEO of Exxon Mobil was caught having an affair with a 22 year old intern in his company, the ones criticizing Lewinsky in this thread would be the same ones calling for the Exxon CEO to be burned at the stake, calling him a user and abuser of young girls, a pervert, a monster, and so on, and defending the honor of the young lady in question....?
 
tres borrachos said:
Why do I get the feeling that if the CEO of Exxon Mobil was caught having an affair with a 22 year old intern in his company, the ones criticizing Lewinsky in this thread would be the same ones calling for the Exxon CEO to be burned at the stake, calling him a user and abuser of young girls, a pervert, a monster, and so on, and defending the honor of the young lady in question....?
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I don't know why you get that feeling. I don't know who the Exxon Mobil CEO is, nor do I care where he sticks his dick.
 
tres borrachos said:
Why do I get the feeling that if the CEO of Exxon Mobil was caught having an affair with a 22 year old intern in his company, the ones criticizing Lewinsky in this thread would be the same ones calling for the Exxon CEO to be burned at the stake, calling him a user and abuser of young girls, a pervert, a monster, and so on, and defending the honor of the young lady in question....?
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If he was married and she knew it...they both would be jerks.

But if you look back on Bill's history as POTUS.....who was calling for him to be "burned at the stake"?
 
year2late said:
Again....10 years ago. Where does her name keep popping up????This is the first time I have heard about her in many years!!What does Monica have to do with Hillary? She was the victim of Bill and Monica and weathered the storm.

I am curious....can you site me sources for her name repetitively coming up in the media? Seriously, before this article has she even been on your radar in years??

By the way...who benefits from Monica coming to the forefront again? Dems? Republicans? Monica? Bill? Fox?
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Just about every election year her name surfaces. The whole time Hillary was running for president there were countless stories about Lewinsky in the press rehashing the affair. There was a series by one reporter called "where is she now?" that posted every time Lewinski was seen in public. The past 10 years she has tried to live a private life but the media/Clintons have made that very difficult. She has turned down multi-million dollar interviews during this time. But because it is an election year and rumors of a Hillary run, her name is getting thrust back out there. Hillary has been confronted with questions about her husband's affairs and the name Lewinsky comes up.

Monica did comment in her article about Hillary's conversation made public recently.

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" Lewinsky doesn’t paint Hillary Clinton as the glass ceiling-cracker she claims to be.

“Mrs. Clinton, I read, had supposedly confided to [Diane] Blair that, in part, she blamed herself for her husband’s affair (by being emotionally neglectful) and seemed to forgive him,” Lewinsky wrote in the article published yesterday. “I find her impulse to blame the Woman — not only me, but herself — troubling.”

Monica Lewinsky Conspiracy Theories Resurface – From the Right, This Time - ABC News

Right on Monica! Looks like Monica truly is all grown up.
 
year2late said:
If he was married and she knew it...they both would be jerks.

But if you look back on Bill's history as POTUS.....who was calling for him to be "burned at the stake"?
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I wasn't a politician in DC at the time, so I don't care. I have given Clinton credit many times on this board for doing a good job as President.

She wasn't a jerk. She never took any vows of fidelity to Hillary, as far as I know. She was footloose and fancy free. And young and naive.
 
MaggieD said:
Monica Lewinski was used and abused by the President of the United States. She was barely an adult. He should, for the rest of his sorry life, be embarrassed by his actions. He's a scum bag. So's his wife.
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Don't you think you're being a little harsh? She said herself it was consensual. In fact, it was probably quite a thrill for her to be involved with the most powerful man in the world.

She's not the victim here.

The victim is Hillary Clinton, who had an unfaithful husband.

On a personal note, I think all presidents cheat. I would be willing to bet a significant amount of money that Obama is cheating on his wife right now. How to put this.... the day he became president, he's out of his wife's league.
 
tres borrachos said:
Why do I get the feeling that if the CEO of Exxon Mobil was caught having an affair with a 22 year old intern in his company, the ones criticizing Lewinsky in this thread would be the same ones calling for the Exxon CEO to be burned at the stake, calling him a user and abuser of young girls, a pervert, a monster, and so on, and defending the honor of the young lady in question....?
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Why? I don't care who he's banging.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Don't you think you're being a little harsh? She said herself it was consensual. In fact, it was probably quite a thrill for her to be involved with the most powerful man in the world.

She's not the victim here.

The victim is Hillary Clinton, who had an unfaithful husband.

On a personal note, I think all presidents cheat. I would be willing to bet a significant amount of money that Obama is cheating on his wife right now. How to put this.... the day he became president, he's out of his wife's league.
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IMO, there is no such thing as a consensual relationship between the President of the United States and an intern.
 
Peter Grimm said:
On a personal note, I think all presidents cheat. I would be willing to bet a significant amount of money that Obama is cheating on his wife right now. How to put this.... the day he became president, he's out of his wife's league.
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WTF? So if one president cheats, they all do? What the hell is wrong with you?
 
MaggieD said:
IMO, there is no such thing as a consensual relationship between the President of the United States and an intern.
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Because he's in a position of power over her?

Most women are attracted to power. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was not only consensual, but if she were the one making the first moves. She probably had him in her sights.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Because he's in a position of power over her?

Most women are attracted to power. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was not only consensual, but if she were the one making the first moves. She probably had him in her sights.
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The ultimate position of power. It wouldn't surprise me either, Peter. That doesn't make it acceptable. Did he break any laws re this relationship? No, he didn't. But he certainly proved he's a dog.

I agree with you, though. It would seem that powerful men have penis's that just won't stay in their pants. Stronger zippers?
 
Peter Grimm said:
Because he's in a position of power over her?

Most women are attracted to power. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was not only consensual, but if she were the one making the first moves. She probably had him in her sights.
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As I said earlier in this thread, power is an aphrodisiac, both to the one holding the power and to the one who wants to sleep with the power. Even at 22, Monica was no doubt turned on by the power.
 
Top Cat said:
WTF? So if one president cheats, they all do? What the hell is wrong with you?
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We know about Kennedy and Clinton. Those are just the ones that got caught. Look at all the European PM's that get caught. Berlusconi (lol), an endless string of French, etc etc.

Look at Putin's "girlfriend."

A man in that position of power has ENDLESS options, as far as young, good looking women go. Deal with it.

In my opinion, the majority of presidents cheat, and the vast majority of young presidents cheat.
 
Peter Grimm said:
The victim is Hillary Clinton, who had an unfaithful husband. .
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I really wouldn't be shocked that Hillary is a lesbian. Just sayin... it's a rumor, no more, no less.

Other rumors, however, were harder to shake. Although a pre-internet media successfully hushed it up, many witnesses claim that, during his years as Arkansas governor, Bill was happy to tell people that “Hillary has eaten more p**** than I have.” In her autobiography, one time Clinton lover Gennifer Flowers details a rather lengthy conversation she had with Bill about Hillary’s affairs with women:
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Hillary Clinton To Admit To Being Lesbian In New Tell-All Book // Mr. Conservative
 
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