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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

Your ignorance is amusing as you claim voter's should be concerned of his political skills ...well maybe you missed the info that he was getting serviced under the desk while talking to members of Congress and world leaders over Bosnia while getting a blow job. So much for being all focuse on the afairs at hand. .
Yawn. And Churchill made crucial decisions about world war 2 when he was drunk. And Bush was having hallucinations half the time (he claimed to talk to God). And Drake finished his game of bowls before he dealt with the Spanish Armada. Your point doesn't in any way excuse Lewinsky as the Mother Teresa you want to build her up into. Does she take NO responsibility for sucking the president while he's discussing world affairs? If she wasn't being coerced then the responsibility was hers as well as his. He was irresponsible. She was too. Your naïvety is stunning. Were you stung by an older guy in your youth? Is that where your bitterness comes from? Did you also blow someone you shouldn't have - and can't take the responsibility?
You also refuse to see any absurdity of a man over half her age .

Age is not relevant when they are both adults. I've had sex with guys way older than me - that was neither abusive nor inappropriate since we were both consenting adults.

misusing his powers/authority over her. .

Your interpretation. She cosented and you admit she consented. Are you simply anti Clinton from a political viewpoint? And like the media, see this as a convenient stick?

I really don't care how many blowjobs you have performed with regret when you were young and dumb, Your ass didn't have to pay 17 years in the public light for it. .

I had the sense not to go tell a superior about my antics, the result being my career stayed intact!
Most likely in all your tough talk you couldn't have lived up to the same scrutiny Lewinsky has for the same choices. Hypocrite.

I have never denied that the media scrutiny must have been tough: for Lewinsky, for Clinton, and for his wife and daughter. I don't claim to want to live up to that - you make that assumption, before you descend to namecalling.

This argument is getting very circular, so it will be my last post in this thread. But go on, you have the last word. You know it'll kill you not to.
 
The only reason Clinton "destroyed that image" was because it was made public while he was in office. JFK, LBJ, Ike ... Hell, even FDR was getting some on the side and he couldn't even walk.

The only thing Clinton destroyed was the myth that US Presidents are somehow sexually virtuous.

All the above you mentioned were Democrats with the exception of Ike but the alleged affair was between the General Ike and Capt. Kay Summersby his driver. And nothing Summersby wrote later verified an actual sexual relationship. And nothing of that nature while he served as president of this country. Big difference.
 
All the above you mentioned were Democrats with the exception of Ike but the alleged affair was between the General Ike and Capt. Kay Summersby his driver. And nothing Summersby wrote later verified an actual sexual relationship. And nothing of that nature while he served as president of this country. Big difference.

I'm sure if we feel like digging we can find equal D and R sexual indiscretions. Horniness knows no party.
 
Yawn. And Churchill made crucial decisions about world war 2 when he was drunk. And Bush was having hallucinations half the time (he claimed to talk to God). And Drake finished his game of bowls before he dealt with the Spanish Armada. Your point doesn't in any way excuse Lewinsky as the Mother Teresa you want to build her up into. Does she take NO responsibility for sucking the president while he's discussing world affairs? If she wasn't being coerced then the responsibility was hers as well as his. He was irresponsible. She was too. Your naïvety is stunning. Were you stung by an older guy in your youth? Is that where your bitterness comes from? Did you also blow someone you shouldn't have - and can't take the responsibility?


Age is not relevant when they are both adults. I've had sex with guys way older than me - that was neither abusive nor inappropriate since we were both consenting adults.



Your interpretation. She cosented and you admit she consented. Are you simply anti Clinton from a political viewpoint? And like the media, see this as a convenient stick?



I had the sense not to go tell a superior about my antics, the result being my career stayed intact!


I have never denied that the media scrutiny must have been tough: for Lewinsky, for Clinton, and for his wife and daughter. I don't claim to want to live up to that - you make that assumption, before you descend to namecalling.

This argument is getting very circular, so it will be my last post in this thread. But go on, you have the last word. You know it'll kill you not to.

I've never stated anything of the kind that Lewinsky is some kind of Mother Theresa. She herself takes full responsibility in her part.
You on the other hand are a person who refuses to recognize that and yet refuses to see the failures and down right manipulations of Clinton in all of this.

Thank you so much for your posts as it proves those who will defend Clinton to the death and bastardize Lewinsky in the process are the real initiators of the war on women. :mrgreen: There ain't no war on women coming from the right. It is home grown babes like yourself who will devour your own, such as Lewinsky a leftie in political circles. Amazing.....What a piece of work!
 
Or....maybe she after going through 17 years of Hell allowing others to define her, at the age of 40 is tired of walking on eggshells and is ready to use her experience as one who was demonized beyond the pale through bully tactics of the powerful and maybe be able to help others who are faced with the same. Whether it be a boss, or another figure of authority.

She defined herself.
 
She defined herself.

Come on Year2late, she did not define herself. The media and the attack dogs from the Clinton war room defined her. Tell me Year2late were you a virgin at the age of 22? Do you think your sexual activity could pass the test the same test set up for Lewinsky? Let me answer that for you .....Hell no! For the love of Pete she had a history of being infatuated with men in authority over her before she ever got to the position of being an intern for the Prez. She came from a broken home where she struggled to have a relationship with a father that had abandoned her....need I go on? You don't suppose an older gentleman doesn't pick up on those "needy" issues in a young girl do you? If not YOU should. And assholes prey on them. Enough said.
 
Come on Year2late, she did not define herself. The media and the attack dogs from the Clinton war room defined her. Tell me Year2late were you a virgin at the age of 22? Do you think your sexual activity could pass the test the same test set up for Lewinsky? Let me answer that for you .....Hell no! For the love of Pete she had a history of being infatuated with men in authority over her before she ever got to the position of being an intern for the Prez. She came from a broken home where she struggled to have a relationship with a father that had abandoned her....need I go on? You don't suppose an older gentleman doesn't pick up on those "needy" issues in a young girl do you? If not YOU should. And assholes prey on them. Enough said.

Having a relationship with a married man one is onething.....twice is an active choice.
 
Having a relationship with a married man one is onething.....twice is an active choice.

No not an active choice....but at that age it clearly shows one that is compensating for the lack of a relationship with a father. And that is the case with Monica. Both her affairs were with men much older than her. Both were men in authority over her. Both men she was infatuated with.

These are all things a young girl sees in her dad. Denied that and she goes looking for it in other forms for acceptance. They are prime candidates for men especially older men, to use and abuse.
 
Age is not relevant when they are both adults. I've had sex with guys way older than me - that was neither abusive nor inappropriate since we were both consenting adults.

You weren't an intern for the most powerful boss in the world either.
 
Because she was under immunity, Lewinsky was not permitted to talk publically about the case until 2002. She did do the interview with Walters but it was limited in scope. She received a good sum for that interview. So what? She also agreed to assist a biography about her life written by Morton which told her side of what happened in the Oval office. After 2002 she did a HBO special. And she hosted a show on Fox for one season.

BUT it was when Bill Clinton released his autobiography My Life in 2004 where in it he blamed Monica for what happened and all the hatred toward her escalated in the press once again making it difficult in her personal life and business life. Nothing like having your pictures pasted all over the tabloids/magazines AGAIN while trying to get on with your life and the damn president lying about what happen to boot! So in 2005 she moved to London. In London she gave an interview calling Clinton a liar and maintained their relationship was a consensual one.

Here is what she stated in the interview.



That was the last time she spoke about the incident almost a decade ago. While she was in London is when she earned her masters.

So what she made monetarily those first few years doesn't make up for all the jobs she has applied for and denied because of the stigmatism that follows her. I feel if Clinton would have been honest in his autobiography, she never would have said another word. But now at 40 she is tired of it and is setting the record straight and believes she has a new purpose and that is to start talking about how those in power over us can bully, abuse, and revise history to paint you into anything they want especially using tools like the Internet.

Last year Lewinsky's net worth was $500,000. This can be verified by doing a Google search "Monica Lewinsky's Net-Worth" proving what these people including the president did to her has hindered her in making a living. Ironically some of the same bitches in journalism who laud Bill and Hill Clinton pulled out their sharp knives today to slice and dice Lewinsky one more time over her upcoming article in Vanity Fair.

She is worth over $500K and you think that is living in poverty or something? That she is "struggling"? I would feel lucky to be worth that much. Heck, that would be especially true if I only had a Masters degree in psychology, which has an average salary of $72K a year, $98K if they work in the higher end industrial settings. There are many people who would love to have a net-worth of $500K, especially when their biggest achievement was sleeping with the President.

You yourself just proved that it wasn't actually the affair coming out that upset her (although I'm willing to bet she had wanted to be the one to bring it out publicly, on her terms), but rather how she was characterized as a "narcissistic loony toon" that ticked her off. However, from what I saw then and what I read, that description isn't really too far off. You are acting like she couldn't have been planning something from the start. Like she couldn't be scheming because of her age or she was only an intern to the President.

It turns out that psychology agrees that a person like Lewinsky actually is most likely narcissistic.

Psychology of a mistress: Being the ‘other woman’ | Voxxi

“The evolutionary psychology refers to the affair partner as the mate poacher,” Adelphi University Derner Institute of Advanced Psychological Studies Professor Lawrence Josephs, Ph.D told Saludify. “In general, women or men who are prone to mate poaching tend to be high in narcissism, game playing and insecurely attached."
 
Ol Billy Bob a disgrace that will live on forever.
 
I saw some pics of her on the news this morning. Monica actually looks better at 40 than she did when she was in her early 20s.
 
If he had admitted the affair it would have merely been a short term embarrassment rather then a scandal. His crime came when he obstructed justice in an attempt to cover it up. Same with Nixon. The Watergate burglary by itself would not have led to successful impeachment hearings. However hisa attempts to obstruct justice did. At least he had the honor to resign and avoid putting his family and the nation through the impeachment process.
This post should end the thread.

It won't, though.
 
She is worth over $500K and you think that is living in poverty or something? That she is "struggling"? I would feel lucky to be worth that much. Heck, that would be especially true if I only had a Masters degree in psychology, which has an average salary of $72K a year, $98K if they work in the higher end industrial settings. There are many people who would love to have a net-worth of $500K, especially when their biggest achievement was sleeping with the President.
Do you understand the definition of net-worth? It is the total assets minus total outside liabilities of an individual or a company. According to what has been reported on the Internet her net-worth is $500k so unless you have proof otherwise what you want to believe isn't fact. Your snark about her biggest achievement being that she slept with the president is telling. The woman at one time started her own business designing handbags up until Clinton published his autobiography. She gave up the business which was making money when she left for London due to the eruption of humiliation his book caused her. She worked as a newscaster while in London and earned her masters. Monica has several noteworthy accomplishments.
You yourself just proved that it wasn't actually the affair coming out that upset her (although I'm willing to bet she had wanted to be the one to bring it out publicly, on her terms), but rather how she was characterized as a "narcissistic loony toon" that ticked her off. However, from what I saw then and what I read, that description isn't really too far off. You are acting like she couldn't have been planning something from the start. Like she couldn't be scheming because of her age or she was only an intern to the President.

It turns out that psychology agrees that a person like Lewinsky actually is most likely narcissistic.

Psychology of a mistress: Being the ‘other woman’ | Voxxi

“The evolutionary psychology refers to the affair partner as the mate poacher,” Adelphi University Derner Institute of Advanced Psychological Studies Professor Lawrence Josephs, Ph.D told Saludify. “In general, women or men who are prone to mate poaching tend to be high in narcissism, game playing and insecurely attached."

It's obvious Monica as a teen and young woman had insecurity issues. But to continue today with the bashing of calling her a loony tune 17 years later is disgusting. But that is what the Clinton click are still doing. Is there a proper term used in psychology to address those who suffer with the condition of heartlessness? A person that would allow another person's life to be destroyed, her character decimated in order to make him or herself not look so guilty? I hope she makes major bucks off of this article goes on every damn talk show and tells her side of the story and in the process help others who have been bullied, humiliated relentlessly over past mistakes.
 
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No not an active choice....but at that age it clearly shows one that is compensating for the lack of a relationship with a father. And that is the case with Monica. Both her affairs were with men much older than her. Both were men in authority over her. Both men she was infatuated with.

These are all things a young girl sees in her dad. Denied that and she goes looking for it in other forms for acceptance. They are prime candidates for men especially older men, to use and abuse.

Good Lord. It isn't her fault that she was a mistress to TWO married men because of daddy issues? Seriously?

Sure, we are a product of our upbringing. But what you are saying is that she had it so bad she was ripe for the picking and lacked the ability to say "hay sleeping with a married man is wrong, very wrong".

I am not sure why anyone would make excuses for her behavior. I just have one question. Did she realize that sleeping with a married man was wrong?
 
Good Lord. It isn't her fault that she was a mistress to TWO married men because of daddy issues? Seriously?

Sure, we are a product of our upbringing. But what you are saying is that she had it so bad she was ripe for the picking and lacked the ability to say "hay sleeping with a married man is wrong, very wrong".

I am not sure why anyone would make excuses for her behavior. I just have one question. Did she realize that sleeping with a married man was wrong?

Did the married men much older than her that she slept with realize what they were doing was wrong? She was all of 18 the first time still in high school and 22 the second.
 
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Did the married men much older than her that she slept with realize what they were doing was wrong? She was all of 18 the first time and 22 the second.

First of all the first married man was only 10 years her senior. Not that much. And I give a huge "yes" to their complete understanding that sleeping with women outside of their marriages was DEAD WRONG.

Why does that matter? Does that make any difference. He realized it was wrong, so it makes it OK for her???

Can't BOTH of them be responsible for their own behavior?
 
First of all the first married man was only 10 years her senior. Not that much. And I give a huge "yes" to their complete understanding that sleeping with women outside of their marriages was DEAD WRONG.

Why does that matter? Does that make any difference. He realized it was wrong, so it makes it OK for her???

Can't BOTH of them be responsible for their own behavior?

I believe Monica is the only one that took responsibility when she refused to lie about it to the special prosecutor as Clinton wanted her to. She took responsibility from the beginning when she said the relationship was consensual.
 
I believe Monica is the only one that took responsibility when she refused to lie about it to the special prosecutor as Clinton wanted her to. She took responsibility from the beginning when she said the relationship was consensual.

So accepting responsibility publically makes it all go away?

She had two affairs with married men. She knew better and did it anyway. You just cannot take that away.
 
So accepting responsibility publically makes it all go away?

She had two affairs with married men. She knew better and did it anyway. You just cannot take that away.

Who is trying to take it away? Are you so perfect that you can judge her and justify the relentless humiliation she has encountered over her wrongdoing? Seventeen years of this crap she has put up with and the last 10 years has been silent on the matter. Today still being called a loony tune by the Clinton apologists who have yet to take personal responsibility for destroying any woman who succumbed to Clinton's advances.
 
Do you understand the definition of net-worth? It is the total assets minus total outside liabilities of an individual or a company. According to what has been reported on the Internet her net-worth is $500k so unless you have proof otherwise what you want to believe isn't fact. Your snark about her biggest achievement being that she slept with the president is telling. The woman at one time started her own business designing handbags up until Clinton published his autobiography. She gave up the business which was making money when she left for London due to the eruption of humiliation his book caused her. She worked as a newscaster while in London and earned her masters. Monica has several noteworthy accomplishments.


It's obvious Monica as a teen and young woman had insecurity issues. But to continue today with the bashing of calling her a loony tune 17 years later is disgusting. But that is what the Clinton click are still doing. Is there a proper term used in psychology to address those who suffer with the condition of heartlessness? A person that would allow another person's life to be destroyed, her character decimated in order to make him or herself not look so guilty? I hope she makes major bucks off of this article goes on every damn talk show and tells her side of the story and in the process help others who have been bullied, humiliated relentlessly over past mistakes.

Her net worth as of last year. As I said, that would be a net-worth that a whole lot of people, especially those within her given profession (at least the one her degree suggests she would have been in) would love to have. That is owning at least a house and a car plus having savings and possibly (most likely) investments.

She started a business based off of her notoriety. And it eventually she gave it up.

How often exactly have the Clintons actually brought up her or the affair? I'm willing to bet not often, if at all. In fact, I'm willing to bet that this will simply cause her more "grief" than it could ever alleviate her from. She is spinning this even now, as are others. For example, the "narcissistic loony toon" comment was made pretty much during the actual affair/incident to a friend of Hillary's. It isn't like it happened in this last 10 years. It simply came out during the last year.

So what if she was "silent"? Shouldn't she have simply stayed that way if she truly wanted everyone out of her life? I doubt people were really interested in that much more from her. You keep acting as though the Clintons are purposely bringing up the affair (that frankly hurts them much more than it does her) over and over again. They aren't. Had the affair never happened, then they would be much better off than she would be. However, had the affair remained unknown about by Starr, then it is more than likely that she would have eventually told more people about it anyway. Afterall, she told Tripp about the affair and others that she wanted to sleep with the President prior to even starting her internship.

Washingtonpost.com Special Report: Clinton Accused

What exactly is the whole point of bringing this up now, of writing this "essay"? What exactly does it do? It won't make the press less likely to question her or even the Clintons about the affair (in fact, it is easily argued that it would make it more likely). It won't change the fact that some will view her as a victim, others a homewrecker (or at least an attempted one), some will see her as a naive idiot, still others will view her as a "narcissistic loony toon", and then even more will just see her as a woman who had sex with the President.

Prove her life was "destroyed". Show that she would have a higher net worth without having had her affair with Clinton. Prove that she absolutely has nothing she can do now. She isn't exactly destitute. Would she even be known to anyone had she not chosen to have an affair with the President?

Now 40, Monica Lewinsky Guards Her Privacy - TIME

I'm not saying its right that people judge her or consider her worth based on that one affair. However, I also don't feel that she is truly upset or worse off than she would have been had she not had that affair.
 
Who is trying to take it away? Are you so perfect that you can judge her and justify the relentless humiliation she has encountered over her wrongdoing? Seventeen years of this crap she has put up with and the last 10 years has been silent on the matter. Today still being called a loony tune by the Clinton apologists who have yet to take personal responsibility for destroying any woman who succumbed to Clinton's advances.

First of all...until this came out, I had not even heard about her for years.

Second of all, she had affairs with MARRIED MEN...they wounds were self inflicted.

And frankly, she was no idiot. She was screwing around with the POTUS! What did she think would happen.

I refuse to be bothered by self inflicted wounds. Sad fact, many self inflicted wounds occur in early adulthood. You carry them with you, they cannot go away. But frankly = IMHO - putting this all out there when really and truly very people gave a **** anymore...just dragged to the surface what millions had long since forgot!
 
Age is not relevant when they are both adults. I've had sex with guys way older than me - .

Damn...would you mind elaborating?

I'm all ears.

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