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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

LOLOLOL Hilarious.

Look, you may well be right. But you can't base it on any of the facts as we know them.

1. Her history. She already had a consensual affair with an older man previous to BC. This is not speculation.
2. She says it was consensual. This is not speculation.

Everything else is speculation.

Lol.

Btw..I find it interesting that you so strongly defend him.

Is it political and/or is it you are one of the 70% you mentioned earlier?

The question is entirely rhetorical.

I will not respond to you on this again...I have better things to do.


Good day.
 
Not really relevant (and yes...I think you will vote for her). The relevant fact is that every time the subject of Monica Lewinsky comes up, people ignore all of the relevant facts that led to the revelation of the affair. They pretend the impeachment of Clinton was about consensual sexual relations. They ignore the instances of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment that preceded the perjury charges. Your comments were typical. Nope...dont care about all that other stuff.

Thats pretty tragic if you ask me.

The problem is, they are allegations. Honestly Vance, the perjury issue is a hard sell. That was a witch hunt. You just don't want to admit it. As I have said all along, go after him on national security and I would have supported that. The blow job was bull****.
 
A superior in a work place was accused of having an in appropriate sexual relationship with a subordinate.

An investigation was conducted to see if said inappropriate relationship happened, whether it was concensual, whether the superior utilized his position in any fashion, etc.

This would be a ho hum situation in pretty much any corporation in America if you read about it in a newspaper, but because it was political it became a huge story.

In the process of the investigation the individual broke the law in attempting to conceal his actions. And that violation of the law had further reprucussions.
 
Lol.

Btw..I find it interesting that you so strongly defend him.

Is it political and/or is it you are one of the 70% you mentioned earlier?

The question is entirely rhetorical.

I will not respond to you on this again...I have better things to do.


Good day.

Then run along. This little take my ball and go home stunt is what my two year old daughter would pull.
 
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Originally Posted by VanceMack

If you look at the women he is accused of raping, sexual assaulting, sexual harassing, having affairs with (and yes...even the one he 'married') Bill has a thing for women with low self esteem.

Don't forget big hair.
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As is evidenced by her own admission and her history, the affair was consensual.

It was by definition "consensual", you are correct. But having been a single 22 year old once upon a time, I know that it's not comparable with other consensual affairs, such as those between a 50 year old married man and a 45 year old married woman. At 22 you tend to be naive, your brain isn't fully developed yet, and you rely on older people to "guide" you in the ways of the world much as you do when you first enter the workforce at that age. He certainly took advantage of her naivete. I think Willy is hornier than a 3-balled tomcat on any given day.

I personally think the whole thing about the sex with him & Monica was between him & Hillary, but the using of the Oval Office for clandestine nooky with a young woman not his wife was a bit much.
 
I think Willy is hornier than a 3-balled tomcat on any given day.

Leave me out of this please. :lamo

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I personally think the whole thing about the sex with him & Monica was between him & Hillary, but the using of the Oval Office for clandestine nooky with a young woman not his wife was a bit much.

I certainly agree with you there. This should never have happened...power can intoxicating. JFK got his share, FDR, Eisenhower, Wilson and Garfield were all thought to have done so too.
 
Leave me out of this please. :lamo

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I certainly agree with you there. This should never have happened...power can intoxicating. JFK got his share, FDR, Eisenhower, Wilson and Garfield were all thought to have done so too.

Ooops sorry about the cat reference! :lamo

Power is an aphrodisiac. For both the one who has the power, and the one who wants to sleep with the power.
 
The problem is, they are allegations. Honestly Vance, the perjury issue is a hard sell. That was a witch hunt. You just don't want to admit it. As I have said all along, go after him on national security and I would have supported that. The blow job was bull****.

The perjury charge was NOT a witch hunt. The conclusion was arrived at via a grand jury and the evidence was irrefutable. A federal judge found it sufficient to hold him in contempt of court. The U.S. Supreme Court found it sufficient to bar him for life from testifying before the high court. The Arkansas Bar Association found it sufficient to disbar him. The real offense was his use of power and position to demand that women 'service him' and retaliating against those who refused. But the illegal act was lying under oath about that. Think Al Capone and all the terrible crimes he committed, but the one the feds finally got on him was tax evasion.

Disclaimer: I am not saying that what Clinton did was the same thing Capone did. But if you are determined to convict somebody that needs to be convicted, you use whatever will stick in court. Clinton's sexual harrassment of women was the crime, but the perjury was what would stick in court.
 
Ooops sorry about the cat reference! :lamo

Power is an aphrodisiac. For both the one who has the power, and the one who wants to sleep with the power.

Indeed it is. ha ha
 
Ooops sorry about the cat reference! :lamo

Power is an aphrodisiac. For both the one who has the power, and the one who wants to sleep with the power.

I need to get me some power!
 
This month in Vanity Fair, Monica Lewinsky writes about her affair with President Clinton. Hard to believe she is now 40. How time flies when you are having fun. There are excerpts from the article posted online. She delves into the humiliation of it all and addresses at one time contemplating suicide. She was only 19 years of age when the affair began if I recall correctly but makes it very clear the relationship was consensual. My own opinion is that she paid a heavy price for her poor judgment. But at 19 and having a powerful man such as a president coming on to you, well let's just say I have always held Bill Clinton more responsible because of her age. Now Lewinsky says her current goal, “is to get involved with efforts on behalf of victims of online humiliation and harassment as she suffered and to start speaking on this topic in public forums.”

You can read more here.... Exclusive: Monica Lewinsky Writes About Her Affair with President Clinton | Vanity Fair

I have to say that I do have sympathy for Monica. She was young and starstruck. What young woman wouldn't be when you have the President of US fawning all over you? Also, I don't know why some people are willing to give Bill Clinton a pass on this but not Monica. After all, Monica wasn't the one who made vows to Hilary. That would be Bill who broke his vows.
 
It wasn't just anger at the women having an affair with her husband. Of course any of us would feel that way toward the person who was having an affair with our spouse. It is the fact that he and his chief staffers had the power to destroy these women, to turn the focus strictly on them and away from him, in the most cruel and destructive manner. Some have testified they actually feared for their lives during that time. It was vicious and brutal, something that would have outraged Hillary had it been a Republican or anybody else that it was politically correct to attack. But she was and is silent about that. And that I find very difficult to forgive. And I won't trust her to do the honorable and honest thing as President either.

I believe the term that was bantered around to describe the women he engaged in inappropriate behavior were called Bimbo erruptions. If ever there was a war on women, that period was a stellar example how they viciously set their attack dogs out to destroy the credibility/lives of these women (several in number) and not a peep out of Hillary knowing damn well of her husband's extra curricular activities. Their inner circle had their own war room set up to go after these women......those who had admitted having sex with him and those who told of his unwelcomed advances. And all the women who came forward ironically were registered Democrats. And Hillary? well she blamed it on a Rightwing conspiracy. :) Lewinsky describes herself in the article as being made the scapegoat to protect the powerful. Those who engaged in this destructive demagoguery of these women now claim the right side of the aisle has a war on women. And they are the same ones that will go after a conservative woman in the most personal way. Seems to me the real war on women isn't on the right.
 
I have to say that I do have sympathy for Monica. She was young and starstruck. What young woman wouldn't be when you have the President of US fawning all over you? Also, I don't know why some people are willing to give Bill Clinton a pass on this but not Monica. After all, Monica wasn't the one who made vows to Hilary. That would be Bill who broke his vows.

I do too Chris. I can't even imagine having to live through that humiliation at the age of 22 and for 17 years that followed. To be made a laughing stock of the butt end of jokes that now a blow job is called a Lewinsky. For crying outloud Clinton was old enough to be her father. And as an intern that is the role any parent would hope a mentor would become. But that didn't stop those in power making her out to be some loony tune and still do.
 
I have to say that I do have sympathy for Monica. She was young and starstruck. What young woman wouldn't be when you have the President of US fawning all over you? Also, I don't know why some people are willing to give Bill Clinton a pass on this but not Monica. After all, Monica wasn't the one who made vows to Hilary. That would be Bill who broke his vows.

Thought you didn't post up here? Oh wait.
 
Thought you didn't post up here? Oh wait.

Yes, I feel sorry for the human being, Monica Lewinski. Don't like it? Too bad.
 
I have to say that I do have sympathy for Monica. She was young and starstruck. What young woman wouldn't be when you have the President of US fawning all over you? Also, I don't know why some people are willing to give Bill Clinton a pass on this but not Monica. After all, Monica wasn't the one who made vows to Hilary. That would be Bill who broke his vows.

I never understand why the "other woman" gets blame for an affair. You're spot on Chris. BILL took a vow to be faithful to Hillary - not Monica. If Mr. Borrachos ever strayed, I would emasculate him, not the bimbo he strays with. She doesn't owe me ****...he does.
 
I do too Chris. I can't even imagine having to live through that humiliation at the age of 22 and for 17 years that followed. To be made a laughing stock of the butt end of jokes that now a blow job is called a Lewinsky. For crying outloud Clinton was old enough to be her father. And as an intern that is the role any parent would hope a mentor would become. But that didn't stop those in power making her out to be some loony tune and still do.

Yeah, lots of liberals are just jerks.
 
For all those saying that what a President does in private should be between him and his wife and shouldn't have an impact on his job...

Were you suggesting a similar view point towards what a CEO does in private? There were many that had no issue with people using the private actions of a CEO that they simply had a moral disagreement with (his support for gay marriage) as a means to pressure him out of a job.....what makes a a CEO accountable to his co-equal parts of the business and/or the stock holders, but magically a President is not accountable to his co-equal parts of the government and/or the ciitzen ranks who elect them? Why is the private life and actions of CEO's the publics business but the private life and actions of PUBLIC OFFICIALs seemingly not for some reason?

I opine, that a president was more concerned about purely religious laws being used against him for political purposes.

If a CEO is beholden to his shareholders and customers, why shouldn't they be able to be "fired" for breaking that public trust with them. Do you believe Article 4, Section 2 should mean nothing as a moral for the citizens in the several States?

The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.
 
The hell it doesn't. The 47 year old Prez was suppose to be her mentor. And how did he mentor her? By unzipping his pants.

You forgot to mention the cigar thingy. :3oops:
 
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You forgot to mention the cigar thingy. :3oops:

Gives new meaning to second-hand smoking! :mrgreen:
 
Made a ton of money? Prove it.

She made $1M within the year after the affair became public when someone wrote a biography about her called "Monica's Story". She made another 1/2M+ for doing an interview with Barbara Walters that year. I'd say that is more than she ever would have made in 1999 had she not had that affair with Clinton or had it not become public.

In fact, my estimates were way off with how much she would have made in 20 years (and really its only been 15) with a Masters in Psychology if we base it off of starting pay with generous raises from there and working in the best paying careers for psychologists. She would have made at most $1.5M in that 20 years. Yet she made that in the first year after the affair became public, and has made more since then.
 
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