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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

NoC_T said:
I always wondered why he risked so much just to hit that little porker. She is (and was then) a total buher. He must have been out of his ****ing mind.

He's a dumb, lying prick, but no way can a 19 year old woman be a victim in such circumstances, unless she was raped. I mean, how old must someone be before we deem them to be fully aware of sexuality? It's a crock of ****. He's a prick, no argument, but she was no victim.
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If you look at the women he is accused of raping, sexual assaulting, sexual harassing, having affairs with (and yes...even the one he 'married') Bill has a thing for women with low self esteem. Wonder why that is...
 
In my opinion and in modern times, even nice girls should be able to simply ask guys if they can use mr.happy just to get to know us better.
 
Lutherf said:
So after 20 years she decides to spill all the secrets? She chooses to do so two years before Hillary hits full blown campaign mode? That's convenient:roll:

If this isn't some kind of deal to dispose of Hillary baggage before the campaign I'll eat my hat.
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That is my feeling also.
 
USViking said:
Bull****.

Lewinski was a 19-year old adult who knew what she was doing, who aggressively initiated the affair, actually.

You are a big girl, and you should know this by now: even if Clinton had been the initiator all women of legal age are fair game for any man on the make. Clinton did commit a grave immorality, but it was was not that he had sex with someone 30 years younger, it was that he cheated on his wife. I am not a fan of Hillary the politician, but I feel sorry for Hillary the woman and wife: she was the one who was wronged, and that should be obvious to anyone who is living in the real world.

I'll tell you this too: Lewinski shared in that grave immorality by having an affair with a married man, and I hope the little whore doesn't make a cent off this belated tell-all that she is trying to foist on the world.
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She implies that she is not doing it for the money, but to help victims of bullying.
 
nota bene said:
The "war on women" rhetoric has always been laughable from her.

I've heard Lynne Cheney's theory that the timing of the Vanity Fair piece might have been at the suggestion of the Clinton camp. That's certainly possible.

It's also true that Monica Lewinsky was no innocent. But I remember the fid clips of the time, the ones that showed her out in the crowd and just adoring the President. And that's the thing: She was a kid young enough to be his kid, and she was a fangirl with a crush. He exploited that.

And he was the President of the United States, a longtime serial philanderer with no respect for women and a penchant for bimbos (hence his own people coining the phrase "bimbo eruptions"). And he did it in MY office, not upstairs. Just disgusting and contemptible.
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what motivation would monica have to cooperate with the hillary camp?
 
VanceMack said:
If you look at the women he is accused of raping, sexual assaulting, sexual harassing, having affairs with (and yes...even the one he 'married') Bill has a thing for women with low self esteem. Wonder why that is...
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what causes you to insist hillary exhibits low self esteem?
 
vesper said:
And she makes that very clear in her article that their relationship was consensual. But for the love of Pete Kobie, a young intern first time in D.C. hadn't been there but 6 months and the Prez is putting the moves on her? A young woman infatuated by the most powerful man in the world making passes at her? What a friggin ass. Sure it was poor judgment on her part. Young and dumb and she consequently paid a huge price for it as it ended up haunting her the rest of her life while Billy boy got a pass. WTF?
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Why was a 22 year old intern able to get Access to the President?

Is that a common practice?

What was her job in the White House anyway?
 
Mason66 said:
Why was a 22 year old intern able to get Access to the President?

Is that a common practice?

What was her job in the White House anyway?
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I'm pretty sure she was hired as a humidor.
 
USViking said:
I disagree that Clinton in any way abused his power or that he in any way abused Lewinski, who according to the version I heard pretty well threw herself at him. The poor little innocent thang! Hillary was the one who was abused, and of course Chelsea Clinton must have had an awful time.
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"According to the version I heard......"
 
would we really be worse off in modern times, if it were socially acceptable for women to merely be honest and fornicate us into relationships as that moral of bearing True Witness.
 
Mason66 said:
Why was a 22 year old intern able to get Access to the President?

Is that a common practice?

What was her job in the White House anyway?
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polgara said:
You may be correct, but the question is "why now" after all this time? If her conscience, or her actions, didn't bother her 10 years ago, for instance, why are they kicking in now? It does look suspicious no matter what side you are on - either she is looking to get revenge for years of being the scapegoat or she has been bribed or threatened recently or she is a drama queen looking for publicity for some reason. The third choice isn't all that compelling, but I guess it is a possibility. Plus she wasn't the one who lied under oath! On the contrary, she seemed pretty candid and forthright about it at the time!

Greetings, Lutherf. :2wave:
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I have no problem either way with the timing.

The fact this is not close to a crucial election leads one to suspect she is without such guile. I suggest that if she had had that kind of mean streak it would have surfaced a long time ago and had the possibility of being far more damaging, to herself and the Clintons.

She was in her youth still and became a national figure in a sex scandal, has been the subject of ridicule, gossip and speculation, powerful political figures have attempted to disparage her character; read some of these posts from the eyes of her, her friends and family.

That would leave scars on anyone. I know from first-hand experience communicating, often writing is a therapeutic thing; her infamy was world wide. I admire that kind of courage. i
 
I don't think she has an agenda concerning the election. I think enough years have past, that she has gotten past the shame enough to cope, and that telling her story is part of her healing process.
 
justabubba said:
what causes you to insist hillary exhibits low self esteem?
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Entering into a relationship with a serial adulterer and staying in said relationship. Excusing and justifying the offender and vilifying the other parties.
 
vesper said:
And she makes that very clear in her article that their relationship was consensual. But for the love of Pete Kobie, a young intern first time in D.C. hadn't been there but 6 months and the Prez is putting the moves on her? A young woman infatuated by the most powerful man in the world making passes at her? What a friggin ass. Sure it was poor judgment on her part. Young and dumb and she consequently paid a huge price for it as it ended up haunting her the rest of her life while Billy boy got a pass. WTF?
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She probably made the first moves. She told people that she wanted to have sex with Clinton before she left for Washington. (remember 'presidential knee pads?). Women like sex also, especially with important men. We don't know that Bill and Hilary didn't have an arrangement that allowed him to do what he wanted, that's ois a matter that should be between them alone.

The potential blackmail aspect brought up my Maggie is a good point and legitimate concern, but I don't think that means that special prosecutors should persecute every politician having illicit sex.
 
VanceMack said:
Entering into a relationship with a serial adulterer and staying in said relationship. Excusing and justifying the offender and vilifying the other parties.
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but her bond to bill could be primarily a political one
they are a power couple. not a romantic one ... at least from my very remote vantage
they may well have an agreement that each can engage sexually with others, so long as their sexual escapades do not bring dishonor upon them (yea, bill screwed the pooch on that one, assuming his twenty something on the side was not going to tell her friends about what she was doing with the most powerful person in the world)

and in that context, i do not see anything which would indicate hillary exhibits low self esteem
 
justabubba said:
but her bond to bill could be primarily a political one
they are a power couple. not a romantic one ... at least from my very remote vantage
they may well have an agreement that each can engage sexually with others, so long as their sexual escapades do not bring dishonor upon them (yea, bill screwed the pooch on that one, assuming his twenty something on the side was not going to tell her friends about what she was doing with the most powerful person in the world)

and in that context, i do not see anything which would indicate hillary exhibits low self esteem
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Sure...I'll accept politically driven sociopath. It certainly explains her willingness to attack women that have had the misfortune to being victimized by others that she needs politically.
 
For all those saying that what a President does in private should be between him and his wife and shouldn't have an impact on his job...

Were you suggesting a similar view point towards what a CEO does in private? There were many that had no issue with people using the private actions of a CEO that they simply had a moral disagreement with (his support for gay marriage) as a means to pressure him out of a job.....what makes a a CEO accountable to his co-equal parts of the business and/or the stock holders, but magically a President is not accountable to his co-equal parts of the government and/or the ciitzen ranks who elect them? Why is the private life and actions of CEO's the publics business but the private life and actions of PUBLIC OFFICIALs seemingly not for some reason?
 
VanceMack said:
Sure...I'll accept politically driven sociopath. It certainly explains her willingness to attack women that have had the misfortune to being victimized by others that she needs politically.
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actually, yes
she acts/speaks out i support of her 'team', team bill and hillary
what is surprising is that her loyalty to team bill and hillary would be found surprising by some
 
justabubba said:
actually, yes
she acts/speaks out i support of her 'team', team bill and hillary
what is surprising is that her loyalty to team bill and hillary would be found surprising by some
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I dont find that surprising so much as the complete mindless willingness of people that will ignore how much contempt she shows women and how they will jump to her side.
 
Zyphlin said:
For all those saying that what a President does in private should be between him and his wife and shouldn't have an impact on his job...

Were you suggesting a similar view point towards what a CEO does in private?
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If a CEO wants to have an affair, that is between him and his spouse. Unless said affair is a relationship where the CEO has harassed a worker into it.

Otherwise it is none of anyone else's damned business.
 
Mason66 said:
Why was a 22 year old intern able to get Access to the President?

Is that a common practice?

What was her job in the White House anyway?
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Afternoon Mason. She had an unpaid summer White House internship in the office of White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta. It is said she got the job through family connections. She started that internship when she moved to DC in 1995. That same year she received a paid position in the White House Office of Legislative Affairs. It is said the White House staff had her transferred to the Pentagon when they noticed how much time she and Clinton were spending together.
 
I agree, from the first page of this thread, this has been forced into the news to dispose of this baggage two years before the official 2016 campaign revs up into high gear. Only a complete political moron would not see that as a distinct possibility, even probability. Once the media hashes it out (again), it becomes 'old news' and can be dismissed as such by partisan media who will characterize it that way and shrug it off. We are not derelict in our duty, they will say, but we already covered that.

Meanwhile, Hillary continues to blame and trash Monica, other women, the media, Republicans, etc. etc. etc. for all that and has yet to criticize or accuse Bill of any wrong doing of his own volition. And Monica, understandably, highly resents the characterization that she 'serviced Bill' when in her mind it was a completely consensual relationship and she was being 'serviced' as much as he was.

The whole affair is disgusting enough. But the focus should be on the 'war on women'. Where is militant feminism when it comes to defending the women who were used and abused by the President of the USA? Where is Hillary expressing how woman after woman was trashed and destroyed in the media to protect Bill Clinton? How can she possibly defend that?
 
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