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Monica Lewinsky Breaks her Silence

Well, you should, Top Cat, when it's the President of the United States using his power and station to inflict real harm on a 19-year-old girl. It's an unfair, lopsided relationship of the scummiest kind. He couldn't even choose an equal. So wrong.

The only harm was from the people who publicized the incident to harm Clinton. She went to Washington with her 'presidential kneepads,' remember? I have no problem with her wanting to be a presidential groupie, and I don't hold it against Clinton very much that he couldn't resist the offer, few men could have. It would have been nothing but harmless fun if it wasn't discovered and publicized.

Also, it is not unethical to lie to people who are only trying to harm you.
 
Well, you should, Top Cat, when it's the President of the United States using his power and station to inflict real harm on a 19-year-old girl. It's an unfair, lopsided relationship of the scummiest kind. He couldn't even choose an equal. So wrong.

It takes two to Tango.
 
Bull****.

Lewinski was a 19-year old adult who knew what she was doing, who aggressively initiated the affair, actually.

You are a big girl, and you should know this by now: even if Clinton had been the initiator all women of legal age are fair game for any man on the make. Clinton did commit a grave immorality, but it was was not that he had sex with someone 30 years younger, it was that he cheated on his wife. I am not a fan of Hillary the politician, but I feel sorry for Hillary the woman and wife: she was the one who was wronged, and that should be obvious to anyone who is living in the real world.

I'll tell you this too: Lewinski shared in that grave immorality by having an affair with a married man, and I hope the little whore doesn't make a cent off this belated tell-all that she is trying to foist on the world.

Yeah all of 19, away from home for the first time in DC of all places as an intern. Usually it is common practice the elders whomever the intern is working under look after the interns as surrogate parents. Lewinsky was assigned to the White House. So I guess one could conclude the Big Daddy (Bill) wasn't exactly living up to the surrogate scenario. To claim all woman at some magical age should know better is bull****!!!!!!!!!!! Especially when the most powerful man in the world is making the moves on her. WTF
 
Monica herself suggested that it was consensual. Yes Bill abused his power. At the end of the day, it impacted his ability to do his job? Well yes, because of the witch hunt that followed.

I have never understood why those on the right wing didn't go after Clinton for a National Security breach. He put himself in a position to be bribed. Instead the religious nut jobs tried to prosecute a blow job.

Now cue up the...but, but, but he lied nonsense.

It's called perjury.
 
The only harm was from the people who publicized the incident to harm Clinton. She went to Washington with her 'presidential kneepads,' remember? I have no problem with her wanting to be a presidential groupie, and I don't hold it against Clinton very much that he couldn't resist the offer, few men could have. It would have been nothing but harmless fun if it wasn't discovered and publicized.

Also, it is not unethical to lie to people who are only trying to harm you.

See, here's the thing. When men in power do absolutely ridiculous things, when they cheat on their wives, when they take advantage of their position to use women, they are dishonoring the office of the presidency. I know we don't think much about that these days, but it's not the man, it's the office. His conduct was deplorable. He put himself into a position where he just might have actually been blackmailed. And who knows that he wasn't?? We certainly don't.

As for men being unable to resist? I'd beg to differ with you there. Most married men would have no problem resisting the advances of someone who was, in comparison, a child. I'd bet you dollars to donuts on that. Or do you think that most of your brothers are horny dogs?
 
It makes me happy to see Cons like USViking come out swinging for Bill Clinton and Libbos like Kobie. All in defense of such a despicable act, they wouldn't let their daughters participate in. MaggieD is agreeing with both sides, as per usual. This is progress.

Obama, Change we can believe in.
If Bill Clinton had been unmarried you wouldn't have heard a peep out of me.

But it is Hillary who I am swinging for most strongly. Her politics has no bearing at all on the sympathy she deserves for the abuse she took as a wronged and deceived wife.
 
Yeah all of 19, away from home for the first time in DC of all places as an intern. Usually it is common practice the elders whomever the intern is working under look after the interns as surrogate parents. Lewinsky was assigned to the White House. So I guess one could conclude the Big Daddy (Bill) wasn't exactly living up to the surrogate scenario. To claim all woman at some magical age should know better is bull****!!!!!!!!!!! Especially when the most powerful man in the world is making the moves on her. WTF

She was not 19.

Repeat, she was not 19.

Monica Lewinsky was born in July 1973. Her first White House job started in July 1995. Her sexual involvement with President Clinton started in November 1995.

She was 22. It's math, people.

Monica Lewinsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
It makes me happy to see Cons like USViking come out swinging for Bill Clinton and Libbos like Kobie. All in defense of such a despicable act, they wouldn't let their daughters participate in. MaggieD is agreeing with both sides, as per usual. This is progress.

Obama, Change we can believe in.

I'm not defending anything.
 
Yeah, somehow I don't feel that Monica Lewinsky was taken advantage of.

Washingtonpost.com Special Report: Clinton Accused

She was sleeping with another married man, a former teacher of hers, prior to ever working in the White House. Plus, she didn't act like a victim or like she was "persuaded or misled" into an affair with him. And she made millions off of that affair, between book deals, and interviews, and endorsements, plus her self-named line of handbags.

And I honestly don't think Hillary really cared. It doesn't seem like they have a relationship type where she wouldn't know the guy was a dog and sleeping with other women. Heck, if she cared about this scandal at all, it was quite likely the fact that it became a scandal and that other people found out about it. If anything was said in the privacy of the Clinton WhiteHouse about this by Hillary, it was probably something like the following, "How could you be so stupid? At least pick some semi-intelligent bimbos who know how to keep their mouths shut."
 
She was not 19.

Repeat, she was not 19.

Monica Lewinsky was born in July 1973. Her first White House job started in July 1995. Her sexual involvement with President Clinton started in November 1995.

She was 22. It's math, people.

Monica Lewinsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well thank you for clearing up the age. However, she was still an intern. And the practice in DC, is for young interns to be shephard by those they are assigned to work under. D.C. is a cesspool and understandable why such a protocol. That's the facts Jack. When her shepherd happens to be the President of the U.S. you would think his actions toward her would have been more constructive versus having fellatio performed on him by an intern.
 
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President William Jefferson Clinton

Thank you for the update. Completely redundant, and irrelevant to the statement I was responding to, but kudos nonetheless.
 
Well thank you for clearing up the age. However, she was still an intern. And the practice in DC, is for young interns to be shephard by those they are assigned to work under. D.C. is a cesspool and understandable why such a protocol. That's the facts Jack. When her shepherd happens to be the President of the U.S. you would think his actions toward her would have been more constructive versus having fellatio performed on him by an intern.

I was not defending anything, just setting the record straight.

She was a willing participant.
 
I was not defending anything, just setting the record straight.

She was a willing participant.

And she makes that very clear in her article that their relationship was consensual. But for the love of Pete Kobie, a young intern first time in D.C. hadn't been there but 6 months and the Prez is putting the moves on her? A young woman infatuated by the most powerful man in the world making passes at her? What a friggin ass. Sure it was poor judgment on her part. Young and dumb and she consequently paid a huge price for it as it ended up haunting her the rest of her life while Billy boy got a pass. WTF?
 
And she makes that very clear in her article that their relationship was consensual. But for the love of Pete Kobie, a young intern first time in D.C. hadn't been there but 6 months and the Prez is putting the moves on her? A young woman infatuated by the most powerful man in the world making passes at her? What a friggin ass. Sure it was poor judgment on her part. Young and dumb and she consequently paid a huge price for it as it ended up haunting her the rest of her life while Billy boy got a pass. WTF?

Haunting her? She made millions off that affair. I highly doubt it was truly "haunting her". Does she say the same thing about her affair with her former teacher that she was having prior to even becoming an intern in the White House? I just have a big issue with her getting put out as some sort of victim here. She wasn't a victim. I'm willing to bet she was fully aware of what was going on, even if he was coming onto her, and possibly even encouraged it herself.

Yes, he was a frickin' moron for having any sexual relations with anyone working in the White House or really government in general (I have no idea whether or not Hillary really cares or not if he sleeps around with other people, so I don't know if he was a moron or not for having an affair period). But that doesn't make him some sexual predator. And we have no idea if he was using his "power" to get her to do stuff for him, or if she was doing stuff for him for her own gains (whatever she may have thought she could get, heck she could just be infatuated with guys in charge of her).
 
Haunting her? She made millions off that affair.

She did? She has claimed she has had trouble finding employment - other than possible sales of her upcoming book (honestly curious), how has she made millions off that affair?
 
And she makes that very clear in her article that their relationship was consensual. But for the love of Pete Kobie, a young intern first time in D.C. hadn't been there but 6 months and the Prez is putting the moves on her? A young woman infatuated by the most powerful man in the world making passes at her? What a friggin ass. Sure it was poor judgment on her part. Young and dumb and she consequently paid a huge price for it as it ended up haunting her the rest of her life while Billy boy got a pass. WTF?

He got a pass? Let's see, he was impeached due to his actions in the fallout of the whole scenario, and it's obviously still on people's minds. How would you prefer he had been punished, lest he "get a pass"?
 
Haunting her? She made millions off that affair. I highly doubt it was truly "haunting her". Does she say the same thing about her affair with her former teacher that she was having prior to even becoming an intern in the White House? I just have a big issue with her getting put out as some sort of victim here. She wasn't a victim. I'm willing to bet she was fully aware of what was going on, even if he was coming onto her, and possibly even encouraged it herself.

Yes, he was a frickin' moron for having any sexual relations with anyone working in the White House or really government in general (I have no idea whether or not Hillary really cares or not if he sleeps around with other people, so I don't know if he was a moron or not for having an affair period). But that doesn't make him some sexual predator. And we have no idea if he was using his "power" to get her to do stuff for him, or if she was doing stuff for him for her own gains (whatever she may have thought she could get, heck she could just be infatuated with guys in charge of her).

The left demonized Lewinsky during this whole thing blaming her for the incident while placing Billy Boy above the fray. It was appalling and it is appalling to see it continue after all these years. There are a lot of things in the childhood of Lewinsky that a psychologist could point to as reasons that result in needy/insecure women. But there are also those types of males that know how to spot those "needy women" to exploit them. Hello Billy Boy.
 
She did? She has claimed she has had trouble finding employment - other than possible sales of her upcoming book (honestly curious), how has she made millions off that affair?

She got $1M dealing with rights for her Barbara Walters interview, $500K for being a part of Monica's Story (an autobiography written soon after the incident), $300K endorsement deal from Jenny Craig, worked on a reality dating program (Mr. Personality), was a correspondent for a British news channel, and she sold her own line of handbags (she started knitting during the scandal, I guess) for about 6 years. She also showed up on several other shows, particularly after the immunity agreement expired. Plus, her parents were well off to begin with. She wasn't exactly from a farm in Nebraska. She went to a private school in Bel Air and a "family connection" got her the internship to begin with.
 
He got a pass? Let's see, he was impeached due to his actions in the fallout of the whole scenario, and it's obviously still on people's minds. How would you prefer he had been punished, lest he "get a pass"?

Yes he was impeached but from the comments in this thread alone there are several who have a forgiving spirit toward him but not Lewinsky. And I think that tells it all.
 
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