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AFA: Shops who display ‘We Don’t Discriminate’ stickers are bullying Christians[W:54]

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Wouldn't it just be simpler to post a sign or place a line in advertising saying "We don't want gay money, we don't want gay business"? But of course few business owners are that damned stupid. Few are actually willing to stand on principle when it means peeing on profit.

You have to wonder how many Mississippi preachers would be railing on against gay people if it meant a serious reduction of contributions to the church.

A sin is a sin. Gluttony is no less sinful than homosexuality as far as the bible is concerned, but you won't find preachers and politicians taking a stand against fat people in Mississippi.
 
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wolfsgirl said:
The sticker campaign has been all over the local (Mississippi) news stations, in the local newspapers, and has been in national media. For a local business owner to not know about it, they would have to be living under a rock.

You are not required to put up the sticker if you don't want to. So you're in the clear there.

This whole sticker campaign was started in response to the new law passed in MS that allows businesses to discriminate based on their "religious beliefs". Why shouldn't businesses be allowed to put up a sign that says "if you're buying we're selling"?
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actually the law doesn't discriminate against anyone. it says that you can't be sued over religious beliefs as garenteed by the constitution.
it stops people from losing and having to close their businesses for expressing their faith.

if their business is going to fail then it should be done because they don't offer a service or product that the public wants. it shouldn't be lost in a court fight.
 
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ocean515 said:
As you've proven, the issue is not businesses choosing to put signs up, it's the public demanding they be put up to show allegiance to their cause.

I don't care one bit about fish signs, or crosses, or any of that. You don't like it, don't shop there.
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No one is demanding anything. Out of hundreds of thousands of businesses in MS 500 have stickers. Not much of a "demand".

If you don't like the "we don't discriminate" signs, don't shop there. It works both ways.
 
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ocean515 said:
I recognize you can't see the point. Enough said.
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I recognize that you are against businesses choosing what they can advertise in their businesses. Enough said.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Correct, it is a cultural thing. Holding hands is not necessarily sexual.

So, we're back to there really is no way to tell for sure, unless the're making out in public or something.

Anyway, who cares?
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If I go into a store to buy wedding flowers, or a gift for my fiancee. Generally the sales person will ask questions like when is the wedding, what is their name, what do they like...
As a female if I say their name is Jane, then it is obvious. If as a female I am buying a gift for my fiancee and it's womens clothing, or womens jewelry, or womens perfume, it's kind of obvious.
Sales people ask all kinds of questions to try to up sale. Should homosexuals be rude and not answer, hide, lie?

There are any number of ways that people telegraph their orientation every day. Mentioning their spouse, weekend plans with their family, etc
 
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wolfsgirl said:
I recognize that you are against businesses choosing what they can advertise in their businesses. Enough said.
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LOL

Yea that's it.

Bottom line is, I just despise fascism. Bad for a free peoples health.
 
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ludin said:
actually the law doesn't discriminate against anyone. it says that you can't be sued over religious beliefs as garenteed by the constitution.
it stops people from losing and having to close their businesses for expressing their faith.

if their business is going to fail then it should be done because they don't offer a service or product that the public wants. it shouldn't be lost in a court fight.
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Yet some religious beliefs are more important than others. A business can't discriminate based on race even if it is a "religious belief". Businesses can not discriminate based on gender, even if it is a "religious belief". Businesses can not discriminate based on religion, even if it is a "religious belief". Not many things left to discriminate against because of "religious belief" except them evil gays.
 
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ocean515 said:
LOL

Yea that's it.

Bottom line is, I just despise fascism. Bad for a free peoples health.
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Businesses voluntarily advertising their policy on discrimination is not fascism.
 
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wolfsgirl said:
Businesses voluntarily advertising their policy on discrimination is not fascism.
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Sorry, but Citizens demanding businesses display allegiances, or else, is.
 
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ocean515 said:
Sorry, but Citizens demanding businesses display allegiances, or else, is.
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No one is demanding anything. If the CUSTOMER wants something, then businesses either oblige or don't, that is up to them, but everyone knows that the businesses that cater to their customer base has a higher success rate.

If I only sell Budweiser, and my customer wants Corona, I have a choice to provide what my customers what they are asking for, or possibly lose business to a place that does sell Corona. If I run a restaurant that only sells Greek food, and not many people in the area like Greek food, I adapt or go out of business. If I only sell $150 jeans, and my customers want Wranglers I will lose business. If my customers want to know my position on discrimination, I can either let them know or not, that is my choice.
 
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wolfsgirl said:
No one is demanding anything. If the CUSTOMER wants something, then businesses either oblige or don't, that is up to them, but everyone knows that the businesses that cater to their customer base has a higher success rate.

If I only sell Budweiser, and my customer wants Corona, I have a choice to provide what my customers what they are asking for, or possibly lose business to a place that does sell Corona. If I run a restaurant that only sells Greek food, and not many people in the area like Greek food, I adapt or go out of business. If I only sell $150 jeans, and my customers want Wranglers I will lose business. If my customers want to know my position on discrimination, I can either let them know or not, that is my choice.
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Thank you for attempting to clarify and explain, but it's really not necessary.

From what you've posted, you, and I would imagine other people you associate with, require a public notice displaying allegiance and sympathy to your cause. If one expands that out a bit, I would guess if enough people affiliated themselves with your cause you could eventually have the power to determine if someone could earn a living, or not. I suppose in that case, it would be best to display those membership tags if one wants to eat.

As most people view it, that is textbook fascism
 
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ocean515 said:
On the other hand, as the other poster proved, despite rallying for non-discrimination, they will discriminate if certain perceptions are not met, regardless if true or not.

There are names for that.
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Yes, there is

It's called "freedom"
 
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sangha said:
Yes, there is

It's called "freedom"
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Nope, that's not it, but thanks for playing. Forcing one to comply in this way might be called freedom in some societies, but not in the United States.
 
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ocean515 said:
LOL

Yea that's it.

Bottom line is, I just despise fascism. Bad for a free peoples health.
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You just love throwing the word fascism around, especially when it comes to homosexuals

ocean515 said:
"No, people don't have the right to vote for an unconstitutional law. They don't have the right to vote against someone else's rights. You're the one asking for tyranny of the majority, here. "​

These are your words posted above.

Just because you got bitch slapped for posting this fascist nonsense and have since tried to hide this fact behind juvenile name calling and other typical ProgLib BS doesn't change the facts. Is there something else you want to deny? Something else you want to lie about?

Maybe you could be rational and civil in your posts rather than proving your age.

Deal with it.
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ocean515 said:
Hey, no backpedal. You claimed to be done. I guess you lied about that. :2razz:

If you want to reconfirm your fascist creds, go right ahead. Running a means test before one can vote is bound to be popular to the masses. If you'd like, I'll even re-paste you implied demand for you, since your memory seems to be failing you.

Frankly, I'd suggest trying to build up your self esteem by calling an anonymous poster a liar is pretty pathetic, especially when you put the truth in writing.

But who am I to judge? Some people have to get validation any way they can, so I guess you must do what you must.
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ocean515 said:
:lamo

Unbelievable.

I think it's fascist when you and the rest of those who believe like you want a means test before someone votes, to insure they vote as you demand.

Pretty simple, and accurate, since you admitted that is how you want things.

Case closed.
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ocean515 said:
Of course they don't have the right to see an unconstitutional law enforced. That's what the courts are designed to determine.

As to your projection, it's always good to see someone so desperate, they think they can tell the future. That bit of hallucination is for you to deal with, and others to point and laugh at.

By the way, fascist is an appropriate description of your agenda.
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ocean515 said:
Nope, that's not it, but thanks for playing. Forcing one to comply in this way might be called freedom in some societies, but not in the United States.
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The only fascism I see is coming from the right wing religious christian nutbags who think fascism means "I can't tell other people what they can and can't do"
 
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sangha said:
You just love throwing the word fascism around, especially when it comes to homosexuals
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Why would you connect the two?

I see no connection at all.

On the other hand, demanding allegiance, or else, regardless of the issue, is most certainly fascist.
 
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ocean515 said:
Why would you connect the two?

I see no connection at all.

On the other hand, demanding allegiance, or else, regardless of the issue, is most certainly fascist.
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I see a connection between right wing religious nutbags who whine about fascism and homosexuality.
 
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sangha said:
The only fascism I see is coming from the right wing religious christian nutbags who think fascism means "I can't tell other people what they can and can't do"
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Well, perhaps getting better acquainted with the issue would help expand the view.
 
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ocean515 said:
Thank you for attempting to clarify and explain, but it's really not necessary.

From what you've posted, you, and I would imagine other people you associate with, require a public notice displaying allegiance and sympathy to your cause. If one expands that out a bit, I would guess if enough people affiliated themselves with your cause you could eventually have the power to determine if someone could earn a living, or not. I suppose in that case, it would be best to display those membership tags if one wants to eat.

As most people view it, that is textbook fascism
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If I REQUIRED a sticker in the window of all stores I shopped at there would only be 2 stores in my town I could patronize, a florist and a boutique.

And as most people view it, it is the free market system. You cater to your client base, or your business may suffer.
 
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sangha said:
I see a connection between right wing religious nutbags who whine about fascism and homosexuality.
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Ok.

How does that relate to stickers and threats to livelihoods?
 
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wolfsgirl said:
Yet some religious beliefs are more important than others. A business can't discriminate based on race even if it is a "religious belief". Businesses can not discriminate based on gender, even if it is a "religious belief". Businesses can not discriminate based on religion, even if it is a "religious belief". Not many things left to discriminate against because of "religious belief" except them evil gays.
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show me where the law mentions gays? it doesn't it says you cannot be sued while expressing a religious belief.
trying to re-write a law to say something it doesn't is dishonest.
 
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wolfsgirl said:
If I REQUIRED a sticker in the window of all stores I shopped at there would only be 2 stores in my town I could patronize, a florist and a boutique.

And as most people view it, it is the free market system. You cater to your client base, or your business may suffer.
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My guess is, that's two more stickers than you were looking for in the past. Did you doubt the views of the owners of those two stores before they posted their stickers?
 
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ludin said:
show me where the law mentions gays? it doesn't it says you cannot be sued while expressing a religious belief.
trying to re-write a law to say something it doesn't is dishonest.
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It doesn't, but that doesn't mean that "religious beliefs" will trump FEDERAL anti-discrimination laws. The only one of those NOT covered under FEDERAL laws is sexual orientation. So, go on a refuse service based on "religious beliefs" to blacks or Chinese, or Native Americans, or women, or men, or whites, or christians, or muslims, and you will get smacked down by the Feds because state laws do not trump federal laws. Now, since ALL of those are covered under federal laws, what is left for people to discriminate against in businesses?
 
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ocean515 said:
My guess is, that's two more stickers than you were looking for in the past. Did you doubt the views of the owners of those two stores before they posted their stickers?
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I don't shop at either store, because I don't like to over pay for clothing, and I can grow my own flowers. So the views of those owners didn't matter to me anyways. Them putting up a sticker didn't make me suddenly want an overpriced dress, or a bunch of roses that I could cut from my own garden.
 
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A sticker on the door of a store saying 'we don't discriminate' is fascism? Only on parallel earth.

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