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Boo Radley said:
So, it is possible he wasn't involved? All I was getting at.
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Anything is possible, but I doubt Obama gets to totally skate no matter what. The folks likely at the bottom of this worked for him, were hired by him, and followed his general directives. He is the president, after all. It's his second term. The damage will likely be done down the line in 2014. But no, I don't think this rises to Obama. Just close.
 
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Boo Radley said:
The NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll
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The data is actually slightly older than the ABC/Washington Post poll, and it still shows disapproval over approval 50-44.:peace
 
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MMC said:
Yeah I know JH.....but I had that, to lead me into this.


State Dept FUNDED & TRAINED Benghazi Terrorists, Ansar al Sharia

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The most pressing question about the second 9/11 terrorist attack on America, this time in Benghazi, is “why did Hillary Clinton and the U.S. State Department fund & train the very same terrorists in Libya responsible for murdering Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith and Navy SEALs: Glen Doherty & Tyrone Woods”?

This question must be answered, along with a reason “why Hillary Clinton & the State Department denied over 100 requests for security enhancements and fortifications, despite over 230 violent attacks in Libya over the year leading up to 9/11, including the attacks on Chris Stevens before the video was even posted on youtube“?

To the right is one such request documented by Regional Security Officer (RSO) Eric Nordstrom, who was stationed in Libya and assigned to Embassy Security by the State Department. Eric Nordstrom appeared to testify at the October 10 Oversight Committee and swore under oath, with penalty of perjury:

“You want to know what bothered me so much about being assigned in Libya? It’s not the hardships, it’s not the gunfire, it’s not the threats. It’s dealing & fighting against the people, the programs & the personnel who were supposed to be supporting me. And I added to it by saying, ‘Jim (Bacigalupo) for me, it’s as if the Taliban is on the inside of the building”.

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Led by policy directed by President Barack Obama, US State Department officials Patrick Kennedy & Charlene Lamb testified under oath, with penalty of perjury, before the Oversight Committee on October 10, 2012.

The Kennedy & Lamb testimony revealed:

“the State Department ’backfilled’ US Special Force Operators protecting America’s Embassy & the Ambassador in Libya, and instead opted to outsource US SFO skill sets with ‘Libyan Militia”.

Houston, we have a problem.

Per RSO Nordstrom’s testimony, part of the Libyan militia was the al-Qaeda-linked, Ansar al-Sharia. Furthermore, per Oversight testimony and evidence, Ansar al Sharia not only threatened Chris Stevens’ life in June 2012, but also attacked the annex Stevens was assigned to in June, blowing out a compound wall. The June attack was called a “terrorist test run”. The test-run or pre-attack occurred one month prior to any video being posted on youtube.....snip~

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I gave the like not only for your great post, but particularly for the point you have highlighted in Eric Nordstrom's testimony! Wow! Chilling to read!
 
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polgara said:
I gave the like not only for your great post, but particularly for the point you have highlighted in Eric Nordstrom's testimony! Wow! Chilling to read!
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It gets even worse for them Lady P.....especially with what comes out of their own dept.



Benghazi: 2012 State Department Annual Security Report


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Some officials, like U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, have permanently assigned DS protective details. In 2011, DS agents protected Ambassador Rice both at home and abroad, in countries including Canada, Italy, Finland, Libya, Rwanda, South Africa, and South Sudan.

Meanwhile, Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton continued to set records of travel by visiting 45 countries, logging more than 237,000 miles. Her DS protective detail accompanied her the entire way, sometimes augmented by MSD team members, providing a secure environment within which the Secretary and her staff could safely conduct U.S. diplomacy.....snip~

Benghazi: 2012 State Department Annual Security Report
 
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Much much worse.


It is important to note that the State Department’s main function is to secure American Embassies and Ambassadors stationed around the world, especially in terrorist hot-spots–like Benghazi, Libya.

Lt. Col Wood was the Commander in Charge of the American security detsil in Libya & he testified:

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I feel duty bound to come forward in order to inform and provide a portion of ground truth information. I feel a sense of honor for those individuals who have died in the service of their country.

I realize much of my work in Libya was entangled in sensitive government work… The killing of a US Ambassador is a rare and extraordinary thing and requires our attention as a people.

As a citizen I made the determination that this outweighs all other interests and will risk whatever circumstances may result from my testimony”.

The two would go onto expose a shocking revelation.

The United States of America not only denied several request for additional security to protect Ambassador Stevens (eg: a Marine Security Detachment – MSD – is typically assigned to every Ambassador stationed abroad, except for Stevens), but taxpayers also paid for outsourcing to the Libyan militia, and in part, Ansar al Sharia. Special Forces were then used to train the “Libyan militia” to take-over their job of protecting Stevens.

Sean Smith sent a private message to a friend saying:

“I hope I don’t die tonight. I caught one of the guards in charge of protecting us taking pictures of our facility”.

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What wasn’t disclosed was that the “Libyan guard” Sean referred to, was atop of a building across the street from the CIA compound, and was casing the location out, for obvious reason.

The Libyan guard, supplemented by the State Department to protect Team Stevens, was scouting for an ambush by Ansar al Sharia, who went onto attack the facility, later that night.

General Petraeus commented, “the guards left their posts moments before the attack began, allowing Ansar al-Sahria to just waltz right in the front door & kill Smith and Stevens”.

Government officials have a video copy of the live feed provided by 2 US Drones & they also have the live radio communications between Special Force Operators.....snip~

State Dept FUNDED & TRAINED Benghazi Terrorists, Ansar al Sharia
 
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MMC said:
It gets even worse for them Lady P.....especially with what comes out of their own dept.



Benghazi: 2012 State Department Annual Security Report


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Some officials, like U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, have permanently assigned DS protective details. In 2011, DS agents protected Ambassador Rice both at home and abroad, in countries including Canada, Italy, Finland, Libya, Rwanda, South Africa, and South Sudan.

Meanwhile, Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton continued to set records of travel by visiting 45 countries, logging more than 237,000 miles. Her DS protective detail accompanied her the entire way, sometimes augmented by MSD team members, providing a secure environment within which the Secretary and her staff could safely conduct U.S. diplomacy.....snip~

Benghazi: 2012 State Department Annual Security Report
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I wonder why Ambassadors in particularly dangerous posts aren't given the same security as others? The women you mentioned were visiting those countries - the Ambassador in Libya was posted there as a full time job. Strange...
 
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polgara said:
I wonder why Ambassadors in particularly dangerous posts aren't given the same security as others? The women you mentioned were visiting those countries - the Ambassador in Libya was posted there as a full time job. Strange...
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"Why" the Obama Administration didn't provide the security was fear of how voters might perceive it!

The result; four dead Americans and absolutely no one held accountable!
 
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polgara said:
I wonder why Ambassadors in particularly dangerous posts aren't given the same security as others? The women you mentioned were visiting those countries - the Ambassador in Libya was posted there as a full time job. Strange...
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Mornin' Lady P. Worse was the fact that the Demos went thru this before. Which Susan Rice was part of back then. Only difference this time.....the Demos didn't have 4k as the total number injured like back then.

Same deal tho, lack of security.....not able to recognize clear warnings. Then promising they fixed the security and saying back then. Such will never happen again. All due to the new measures they had taken. Now here we are again with the Demos lying and deceiving while being incompetent and proving once again. They don't belong on the Big Stage where the Big Boys play.
 
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MMC said:
Here was when Clinton tried to deny it was Ansar al Sharia. What.....did she think she could hide any other facts?

Ultimately, Ansar al Sharia claimed credit for killing Stevens, Smith, Woods & Doherty after 9/11/2012.

After her “accepting responsibility“, Hillary Clinton easily dismissed Ansar al Sharia’s public assertion made on both Twitter and Facebook for murdering Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, and SEALs: Ty Woods & Glen Doherty.

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“Posting something on Facebook is not exactly evidence“, Secretary of State Clinton shrugged it off, but she must have forgotten the little-watched video, that was only posted on YouTube, until her friend Mohammed Morsi released it after seizing control of the Egyptian media in August: two months after June, when Americans in Libya were already under attack.....snip~
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You bring up a good point.
In his effort to further Soros' New World Order where he can manage our decline, Obama and his State Dept. felt obliged to bring about unfriendly regime changes in both Libya & Egypt and they both turned into crap.
Is there anything he has touched that hasn't turned into crap?
On purpose, no less.
 
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MMC said:
Mornin' Lady P. Worse was the fact that the Demos went thru this before. Which Susan Rice was part of back then. Only difference this time.....the Demos didn't have 4k as the total number injured like back then.

Same deal tho, lack of security.....not able to recognize clear warnings. Then promising they fixed the security and saying back then. Such will never happen again. All due to the new measures they had taken. Now here we are again with the Demos lying and deceiving while being incompetent and proving once again. They don't belong on the Big Stage where the Big Boys play.
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Greetings, MMC. :2wave:

And we don't have to do anything except watch as it unfolds. My belief that the universe is totally fair and balanced, and in control in every way, gives me hope.

I am reminded of the Greek myth of Pandora's "box." All the "gifts"...wars, greed, sickness, starvation, plagues, and other horrors... that the angry Gods has placed in the box, escaped to plague mankind for our arrogance. Only hope remained in the box before she slammed the lid down in fright at what she had released. Quite a story to explain how mankind has managed to survive this long.... :mrgreen:
 
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mac said:
Later, during a debate with Mitt Romeny, and after the infamous Rice sunday shows, he claimed to have called it a terrorist attack in the Rose Garden despite having told 60 minutes (in an interview that had yet to be aired) that he didn't know. Lies, Lies about lies, and lying about lying.



And then on the 16th, Susan Rice claims it was a spontaneous protest hijacked by extremists.
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Still Bush's fault.
 
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Boo Radley said:
In, but not the speaker. Not the writer.
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If you mean to say Rhodes likely didn't devise the plan in the email himself, then I agree.
If you mean to say he gathered all the information from analysts outside the WH and came up with the summary in the email for Rice, then that's totally preposterous.

Face it, that video excuse could have come from only one place for only one reason ... well, 2 reasons ... Obama's re-election and Hillary's career.
 
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bubbabgone said:
You bring up a good point.
In his effort to further Soros' New World Order where he can manage our decline, Obama and his State Dept. felt obliged to bring about unfriendly regime changes in both Libya & Egypt and they both turned into crap.
Is there anything he has touched that hasn't turned into crap?
On purpose, no less.
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Mornin' B. :2wave: Well.....with this issue. We also have to consider who sent Stevens to meet with the Turks Envoy. Also another question needs to be answered. Where did the Turk Envoy go and how did he get out?

As it is clear he is seen with Stevens on the street outside that consulate/annex.
 
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MMC said:
It gets even worse for them Lady P.....especially with what comes out of their own dept.



Benghazi: 2012 State Department Annual Security Report


Some officials, like U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice, have permanently assigned DS protective details. In 2011, DS agents protected Ambassador Rice both at home and abroad, in countries including Canada, Italy, Finland, Libya, Rwanda, South Africa, and South Sudan.

Meanwhile, Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton continued to set records of travel by visiting 45 countries, logging more than 237,000 miles. Her DS protective detail accompanied her the entire way, sometimes augmented by MSD team members, providing a secure environment within which the Secretary and her staff could safely conduct U.S. diplomacy.....snip~
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Looking ahead what's pretty remarkable is the intersection of Hillary's associations with Obama's.
She became NY Senator with no real experience but with lots of, um, support in a far Left state.
Obama, same deal but later in IL.
Groomed the same by the same people and organizations.
But he took the top Office that had been intended for her.
Now it's her turn.
Anyone who believes she's not just as far Left as he is needs to learn more about her and their mutual associations.
Did you know that Bill de Blasio, the Socialist just elected mayor of NYC, was her Senate Campaign manager in 2000.
Guilt by association?
You betcha.
Oh what a tangled web etc.
 
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bubbabgone said:
Looking ahead what's pretty remarkable is the intersection of Hillary's associations with Obama's.
She became NY Senator with no real experience but with lots of, um, support in a far Left state.
Obama, same deal but later in IL.
Groomed the same by the same people and organizations.
But he took the top Office that had been intended for her.
Now it's her turn.
Anyone who believes she's not just as far Left as he is needs to learn more about her and their mutual associations.
Did you know that Bill de Blasio, the Socialist just elected mayor of NYC, was her Senate Campaign manager in 2000.
Guilt by association?
You betcha.
Oh what a tangled web etc.
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Well to be honest.....not really. Frequent Flyer miles don't mean much and she has nothing she can really point to being the SOS. Still in going after her. All they need is use whats up here from their own Dept.
 
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MMC said:
Well to be honest.....not really.
Frequent Flyer miles don't mean much and she has nothing she can really point to being the SOS.
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Still in going after her. All they need is use whats up here from their own Dept.
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Man ain't that the truth.
Then again, mobilizing ACORN wasn't a resume enhancer for Obama and look what happened.
 
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bubbabgone said:
If you mean to say Rhodes likely didn't devise the plan in the email himself, then I agree.
If you mean to say he gathered all the information from analysts outside the WH and came up with the summary in the email for Rice, then that's totally preposterous.

Face it, that video excuse could have come from only one place for only one reason ... well, 2 reasons ... Obama's re-election and Hillary's career.
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The interplay between the Obama administration and his campaign could prove interesting. The lines have been intentionally blurred, but they're gradually coming into focus. All we need to see is political activity funded through the Executive Office for someone other than Obama, Biden, Clinton, and a few others, and the dominoes will start falling. A violation of the Hatch Act is a felony. I think they're getting closer and closer.
 
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pbrauer said:
Well the information Susan Rice said on those TV shows was the best information we had at the time. And yes, there was a video in the story even today. Not in Benghazi, but in Tripoli. "peace
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not even close to what reality has shown
 
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sawyerloggingon said:
Basically we have an illegitimate president that was reelected by using lies and deception.
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that sums it up nicely... very true
 
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pbrauer said:
You have no evidence for the political gain BS.
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it was called Obama's re-election.....and Hillarys run in 16... THATS THE WHOLE POINT.. what part is confusing ?

its hard to take your posts seriously... youre a spin machine zelot for Obama.. no matter what Obama says you believe it..
 
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KABOOM... IMPEACH OBAMA

BOOM!… Brig. Gen. Robert Lovell (Ret.) to Congress on Benghazi: ‘This Was No Demonstration Gone Terribly Awry” (Video) | The Gateway Pundit


Brigadier General Robert Lovell, U.S. Air Force (Retired) told the House Oversight Committee today, under oath, that the military knew immediately Benghazi was terrorist attack and not a “protest gone awry.” Brigadier General Robert W. Lovell served as Deputy Director for Intelligence and Knowledge Development Directorate, United States Africa Command in the discharge of all Intelligence and Counterintelligence responsibilities as assigned by the Unified Command Plan.

“Nor did we completely understand what we had in front of us, be it kidnapping, rescue, recovery, protracted hostile engagement, or any or all the above. But, what we did know quite early on was that this was a hostile action. This was not demonstration gone terrible awry. To the point of what happened, the facts led to the conclusion of a terrorist attack. The Africom J2 was focused on attribution. The attacks became attributable very soon after the event.”
 
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bubbabgone said:
If you mean to say Rhodes likely didn't devise the plan in the email himself, then I agree.
If you mean to say he gathered all the information from analysts outside the WH and came up with the summary in the email for Rice, then that's totally preposterous.

Face it, that video excuse could have come from only one place for only one reason ... well, 2 reasons ... Obama's re-election and Hillary's career.
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No, it could have been a misunderstanding. It could have been someone went a little rouge and Hillary quickly ended that. What I am saying is jumping to conclusions isn't all that helpful. So far, this has been all noise on your sides part and little actual substance.
 
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