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I did with that bit about what the Libyans told the Brits and us......Got something to say for the 3 day advance warning they gave Team O?

Now look......all you have to do is Prove how Team O wasn't lying about not knowing anything.

No, that's another issue. But you have to prove knowledge and intent.
 
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I'll accept looks bad. But not the the complete leap others are making.

It will play a small role in getting BHO a Repub Senate this fall.:peace
 
Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

I'll accept looks bad. But not the the complete leap others are making.

Well......wasn't Johnny Quest McCain singing Do Run Run Right before Hillary's testimony?
 
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Ben Rhodes was in the WH and so were the people he copied on his email.
Even if someone else in the WH concocted concoct the bullshit story for him to circulate, he's still in the WH.

In, but not the speaker. Not the writer.
 
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It will play a small role in getting BHO a Repub Senate this fall.:peace

It might. But it also might be that this only resonates with a small vocal group who never vote democrat anyway. I can't say I know for sure. But I saw a poll today that Obama's numbers moved up.
 
Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

Well......wasn't Johnny Quest McCain singing Do Run Run Right before Hillary's testimony?

Couldn't tell you. But Hillary dud correct the narrative rather quickly.
 
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"Blood is thicker than water." I'm finding that little that happens in DC surprises me much anymore these days. When an Ambassador, who is a representative of our Federal Government, can be raped and killed by a bunch of thugs, with no repercussions from us, then our foreign policy is a failure. Have the cowardly thugs been brought to justice yet? I think the thing that bothers people the most about the whole affair is that those men were pleading for help, and signaling planes that they thought were on their way to rescue them - which never came. Do people wonder what they were thinking in the last moments of their lives? I try not to!

Greetings, Vesper. :2wave:

Yes the early documentation proves darn well the State Dept. knew this was not an incident caused by some unknown video. What about how this administration lied to the loved ones of those who lost their lives on that night claiming it was the fault of this video? That's reprehensible.
 
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No, that's another issue. But you have to prove knowledge and intent.

The Libyans did that with the Foreigners in from Algeria.....not to mention they even had pictures of one of the Cops? Ansar al Shaira in a Cop Uniform taking photographs of the compound. Earlier in the day and of the day with the attack.
 
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Couldn't tell you. But Hillary dud correct the narrative rather quickly.

She did? When did she ever admit that it was Ansar al Sharia after what she said about their postings on their Facebook page?
 
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It might. But it also might be that this only resonates with a small vocal group who never vote democrat anyway. I can't say I know for sure. But I saw a poll today that Obama's numbers moved up.

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread
RCP Average 4/7 - 4/29 -- 43.7 51.8 -8.1
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 4/23 - 4/27 1000 A 44 50 -6
ABC News/Wash Post 4/24 - 4/27 855 RV 41 55 -14
Gallup 4/27 - 4/29 1500 A 43 52 -9
Rasmussen Reports 4/27 - 4/29 1500 LV 48 51 -3
The Economist/YouGov 4/26 - 4/28 684 RV 45 52 -7
FOX News 4/13 - 4/15 1012 RV 42 51 -9
Reuters/Ipsos 4/11 - 4/15 1327 RV 44 51 -7
National Journal 4/9 - 4/13 1000 A 41 52 -11
McClatchy/Marist 4/7 - 4/10 1036 RV 45 52 -7
All President Obama Job Approval Polling Data
 
Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

In, but not the speaker. Not the writer.

Actually Rhodes was following orders. He didn't formulate the lying policy. That would've come from higher up. You can hope it was Axelrod or Messina, but we're probably going to find out, because I bet that Rhodes is going to appear before the House to answer for this. Maybe you can figure out who's going to take that fall, but I bet it isn't Rhodes. It's higher up.
 
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Are you familiar with the term "phase line zeta?":peace

Not so much.
 
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Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread
RCP Average 4/7 - 4/29 -- 43.7 51.8 -8.1
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 4/23 - 4/27 1000 A 44 50 -6
ABC News/Wash Post 4/24 - 4/27 855 RV 41 55 -14
Gallup 4/27 - 4/29 1500 A 43 52 -9
Rasmussen Reports 4/27 - 4/29 1500 LV 48 51 -3
The Economist/YouGov 4/26 - 4/28 684 RV 45 52 -7
FOX News 4/13 - 4/15 1012 RV 42 51 -9
Reuters/Ipsos 4/11 - 4/15 1327 RV 44 51 -7
National Journal 4/9 - 4/13 1000 A 41 52 -11
McClatchy/Marist 4/7 - 4/10 1036 RV 45 52 -7
All President Obama Job Approval Polling Data

Mr. Obama’s approval is up three points to 44 percent and his favorability ratings are now a net-positive — 44 percent to 41 percent — for the first time since early October (before the health care website debacle). He appears to have put the skids on the potential slide into an approval rating in the 30s like George W. Bush suffered at this time in his presidency.

Health care law not quite yet what the doctor ordered for Democrats | PBS NewsHour
 
Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

Actually Rhodes was following orders. He didn't formulate the lying policy. That would've come from higher up. You can hope it was Axelrod or Messina, but we're probably going to find out, because I bet that Rhodes is going to appear before the House to answer for this. Maybe you can figure out who's going to take that fall, but I bet it isn't Rhodes. It's higher up.

Likely, but how much higher?
 
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She did? When did she ever admit that it was Ansar al Sharia after what she said about their postings on their Facebook page?

She corrected the video narrative.
 
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She corrected the video narrative.

Oh yeah.....after she figured out Team Bo had no out. Which then she agreed with Panetta that it was a Pre planned attack. If she runs she will have to point out those differences. Already in her new book she makes mention of Bo winging it.

Now we can only hope she will run.....so more of it comes out.
 
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Likely, but how much higher?

Maybe Rhodes will tell us. If you're asking if I think Obama issued the policy, the answer is no. He was largely absent, and I don't think he gets his hands dirty. He had the right people in place to do the dirty work. I do think Hillary Clinton was involved. There's 2016 for her to think about, so she had more than her job as SecState to lose. It would take a rather large press to get her to squirm though.
 
Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

Yes the early documentation proves darn well the State Dept. knew this was not an incident caused by some unknown video. What about how this administration lied to the loved ones of those who lost their lives on that night claiming it was the fault of this video? That's reprehensible.

It's also reprehensible that the loved ones are learning that they were not told the truth. How do they live with that knowledge? It is said that everything happens for a reason, but I can't imagine what this reason might be!
 
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Mr. Obama’s approval is up three points to 44 percent and his favorability ratings are now a net-positive — 44 percent to 41 percent — for the first time since early October (before the health care website debacle). He appears to have put the skids on the potential slide into an approval rating in the 30s like George W. Bush suffered at this time in his presidency.

Health care law not quite yet what the doctor ordered for Democrats | PBS NewsHour

What poll is that?:peace
 
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Oh yeah.....after she figured out Team Bo had no out. Which then she agreed with Panetta that it was a Pre planned attack. If she runs she will have to point out those differences. Already in her new book she makes mention of Bo winging it.

Now we can only hope she will run.....so more of it comes out.

Speculation. But it was early on.
 
Re: Newly released Benghazi documents reinforce that White House was pushing that vid

Maybe Rhodes will tell us. If you're asking if I think Obama issued the policy, the answer is no. He was largely absent, and I don't think he gets his hands dirty. He had the right people in place to do the dirty work. I do think Hillary Clinton was involved. There's 2016 for her to think about, so she had more than her job as SecState to lose. It would take a rather large press to get her to squirm though.

So, it is possible he wasn't involved? All I was getting at.
 
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