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Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

Yep, to be clear, we are not in agreement on that, either

That's a fact, so agreement is not required. In the UN speech, as a rationale for the invasion, it is fact that false testimony was used. It's a fact.
 
Obama a loser who vvoted against everything that got us ( not Obama) Osama..

God Bless Palin..

Obama would only waterboard his politcal enemies in the USA... like he has done using the IRS

These same people who are against waterboarding foreigners in order to protect American lives appear to be the same ones who will happily turn troops and SWAT teams on their own fellow Americans.
 
These same people who are against waterboarding foreigners in order to protect American lives appear to be the same ones who will happily turn troops and SWAT teams on their own fellow Americans.

exactly... Obama is an enemy of the USA... he is more concerned about coddling those who are sworn to our destruction through the entrenched taught hatred of infidels in the Maddrasses then protecting us... truly a vile loser Obama is.. Obama will break our spirit and enslave us to bread lines and handouts..

anyone who voted for Obama should be deported.. and go live with the terrorists they fight to protect from water boarding..
 
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That's a fact, so agreement is not required. In the UN speech, as a rationale for the invasion, it is fact that false testimony was used. It's a fact.

fact.. lol... you may want to look up what the word fact means...
 
For those claiming that torture doesn't work, I have a question--If you knew something that I wanted to know, are you saying I couldn't torture it out of you?
 
For those claiming that torture doesn't work, I have a question--If you knew something that I wanted to know, are you saying I couldn't torture it out of you?

Depends on what it was. You would never get any usable codes from me for access to any of my computer security systems that I want locked down. Information can be made unusable even if it is factually true. Torture would only work for certain types of information and in certain circumstances. Specific information is probably the worst kind of information to be extracted by torture due to the fact that it can be shaded and the shading may actually be the important part of the information.
 
Depends on what it was. You would never get any usable codes from me for access to any of my computer security systems that I want locked down. Information can be made unusable even if it is factually true. Torture would only work for certain types of information and in certain circumstances. Specific information is probably the worst kind of information to be extracted by torture due to the fact that it can be shaded and the shading may actually be the important part of the information.
Really? Something tells me if you were locked away in some Iraqi torture chamber you would tell them whatever they wanted to know. I know I would. But maybe Im just a wuss lol
 
Really? Something tells me if you were locked away in some Iraqi torture chamber you would tell them whatever they wanted to know. I know I would. But maybe Im just a wuss lol

The key word is usable. Its not a matter of manliness, its a matter of knowledge. Torture works only if you have the information required and it is relatively simple. If it gets complicated, then the torturer is pretty much SOL.

I am very big on system security for computer systems and computerized locks. Because of the nature of the locks it is possible to design a system were one would know the initial codes required but the codes would be unusable regardless without specific knowledge. Computers make locking things up very securely possible, its simply a matter of design. Codes are only the beginning of the design.
 
For those claiming that torture doesn't work, I have a question--If you knew something that I wanted to know, are you saying I couldn't torture it out of you?

Leftists can be very flexible in their beliefs. They'd be singing God Bless America and telling everything they knew as soon as they saw the water.
 
That's a fact, so agreement is not required. In the UN speech, as a rationale for the invasion, it is fact that false testimony was used. It's a fact.

Kind of like letting Jeffrey Dahmer go because you think one person didn't tell the truth about him. Doesn't change the crimes he committed.
Really doesn't matter, since it is irrelevant and there were other reasons to remove Hussain. Saddam, not Barack. There are plenty of reasons to remove him too.
 
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you really don't know much of what you talk about.

The Dems politicized the NRA by using Gun control as a shield against the valid charges that Dems-especially Dem judges were soft on street criminals
You do realize in the 60's and early 70's the NRA supported gun control right? It wasnt until the mid 70's that the party was divided and they began lobbying efforts.

you want to whine about the NRA because most of us in that group think socialism is a disease that ought to be flushed down the toilet.
Uhhh socialism is an economic system. What does gun ownership have to do with economics?

whining about guns is just a facade for what really upsets the loony left
You go realize that I owe a gun.
 
Kind of like letting Jeffrey Dahmer go because you think one person didn't tell the truth about him. Doesn't change the crimes he committed.
Really doesn't matter, since it is irrelevant and there were other reasons to remove Hussain. Saddam, not Barack. There are plenty of reasons to remove him too.

Yes, it matters. None of those reason prompted any invasion prior. The lynch pin, the difference, was the "growing and gathering" lie. It was the "slam dunk" that would convince the public.
 
Yes, it matters. None of those reason prompted any invasion prior. The lynch pin, the difference, was the "growing and gathering" lie. It was the "slam dunk" that would convince the public.

Of course, 9/11 changed our stance. We could no longer sit back and wait for an attack. We could not let Saddam continue in power. We were right to act and protect ourselves. Not like we didn't warn him, or give him over a year to comply. He could have left power as one of the richest men in the world. He never thought we would follow through and remove him. Well, we did. And the world is a better place without him.
 
Of course, 9/11 changed our stance. We could no longer sit back and wait for an attack. We could not let Saddam continue in power. We were right to act and protect ourselves. Not like we didn't warn him, or give him over a year to comply. He could have left power as one of the richest men in the world. He never thought we would follow through and remove him. Well, we did. And the world is a better place without him.

Attacking Iraq did nothing to prevent another attack. And invading Iraq was in no way protecting ourselves. He had no choice put to put us off, as he feared Iran as much as us. You'd do better to ask why Iran helped us go in. You might also review our helper Chalibi and his connections to Iran (not to mention why the CIA didn't trust him and his heroes in Error).
 
Attacking Iraq did nothing to prevent another attack. And invading Iraq was in no way protecting ourselves. He had no choice put to put us off, as he feared Iran as much as us. You'd do better to ask why Iran helped us go in. You might also review our helper Chalibi and his connections to Iran (not to mention why the CIA didn't trust him and his heroes in Error).

I am just so glad that that dirt ball and his sub human garbage of a family are gone for good. If we hadn't gone in, bye now a nuke would have gone off in Israel, NYC, or Washington.
 
I am just so glad that that dirt ball and his sub human garbage of a family are gone for good. If we hadn't gone in, bye now a nuke would have gone off in Israel, NYC, or Washington.

Of course, 9/11 changed our stance. We could no longer sit back and wait for an attack. We could not let Saddam continue in power. We were right to act and protect ourselves. Not like we didn't warn him, or give him over a year to comply. He could have left power as one of the richest men in the world. He never thought we would follow through and remove him. Well, we did. And the world is a better place without him.

I think you need to brush up on your history and on your current events. Iraq did not have nuclear capability, was not working on nuclear capability and did not have a delivery system capable of delivering a warhead much past Israel. Moreover, Iraq had ZERO to do with 9/11. The Bush Administration , to sell (hood-wink) the American people on attacking Iraq consistently used Iraq and Al Qaeda (or 9/11) in the same paragraph. The fact you did something similar suggests they sealed the deal with you.

The United States government perpetrated a unilateral, pre-meditated attack on a sovereign country that had committed no greater contemporary crime then effectively mouthing off and not being in compliance with their truce. Otherwise, Hussein was nothing more than a two-bit dictator or a second world country. The US government spent between $2 and $6T to wage this war and occupation (and the occupation of Afghanistan) all to get rid of this political peon. Now there is value for you....

Study: Iraq, Afghan war costs to top $4 trillion - The Washington Post

Sorry, but the attack of Iraq is among the dumbest things our government has ever done. I'm sure glad you are sleeping well at night. $2-6T to remove a two-bit dictator? Now there is value. Let's make this personal. Do you know your personal taxbill for this? Try $40,000 ($6T / 150M taxpayers).

If you wanted to sleep well at night, you should have simply bought your self a Sleep Number bed and banked the $39,000.
 
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I am just so glad that that dirt ball and his sub human garbage of a family are gone for good. If we hadn't gone in, bye now a nuke would have gone off in Israel, NYC, or Washington.

The price was a lot of innocent people. And no, it's not remotely possible that invading Iraq had any effect on a nuke going off here. However, in the words of Conservative George Will, the lesson of Iraq is that if you mess the US, you better have a nuke. If he's right, and I think he may be, we may have made that a goal.
 
I think you need to brush up on your history and on your current events. Iraq did not have nuclear capability, was not working on nuclear capability and did not have a delivery system capable of delivering a warhead much past Israel. Moreover, Iraq had ZERO to do with 9/11. The Bush Administration , to sell (hood-wink) the American people on attacking Iraq consistently used Iraq and Al Qaeda (or 9/11) in the same paragraph. The fact you did something similar suggests they sealed the deal with you.

The United States government perpetrated a unilateral, pre-meditated attack on a sovereign country that had committed no greater contemporary crime then effectively mouthing off and not being in compliance with their truce. Otherwise, Hussein was nothing more than a two-bit dictator or a second world country. The US government spent between $2 and $6T to wage this war and occupation (and the occupation of Afghanistan) all to get rid of this political peon.

Oh, the silliness of the left! Like I've said before, you guys would be funny if you weren't so dangerous and destructive. I never said Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, did I? Quiet down, I'm educating you!

It would be dumb to wait around for them to actually get nukes, right? They were pretty close back in the 80's. But hey, he was just a two bit dictator, he would never want nuclear weapons. We could rely on that, right? And he'd never supply them to anyone that would set them off here or in Israel, right? That's a gamble worth taking with millions of lives, as long as we are nice to them.

See what I mean about the left being dangerous? Of course you don't, but we still have to try and maintain our safety.
 
Oh, the silliness of the left! Like I've said before, you guys would be funny if you weren't so dangerous and destructive. I never said Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, did I? Quiet down, I'm educating you!

It would be dumb to wait around for them to actually get nukes, right? They were pretty close back in the 80's. But hey, he was just a two bit dictator, he would never want nuclear weapons. We could rely on that, right? And he'd never supply them to anyone that would set them off here or in Israel, right? That's a gamble worth taking with millions of lives, as long as we are nice to them.

See what I mean about the left being dangerous? Of course you don't, but we still have to try and maintain our safety.

I did not say that you said Iraq had something to do with 9/11. I merely accused you of the standard Republican manipulation of mentioned Iraq in the context of 9/11 (using them in the same sentence or same paragraph), which you did do.

Again, there was no evidence that Saadam was a clear and present threat to the US. But, since you were happy that we spent $40,000 of your personal money getting rid of him... well, I am glad you see value in that. I, on the hand, want my $40,000 back. It could have been better spent on just about anything else.
 
Torture is immoral and diminishes America's standing in the world. I hope the christians on this board will take offense to water boarding being compared to baptism.

Actually I stand by her. She got more balls than Obama.
 
And obama has more balls than bush so I guess she has more balls than bush as well.
Prove it. Obama is a total failure at every turn in his administration. But feel free to bring up a man that has been out of office for 6 years all you want.
 
I am just so glad that that dirt ball and his sub human garbage of a family are gone for good. If we hadn't gone in, bye now a nuke would have gone off in Israel, NYC, or Washington.

The fact that you honestly still think Saddam was a threat is hilarious.
 
I did not say that you said Iraq had something to do with 9/11. I merely accused you of the standard Republican manipulation of mentioned Iraq in the context of 9/11 (using them in the same sentence or same paragraph), which you did do.

Again, there was no evidence that Saadam was a clear and present threat to the US. But, since you were happy that we spent $40,000 of your personal money getting rid of him... well, I am glad you see value in that. I, on the hand, want my $40,000 back. It could have been better spent on just about anything else.

And yet somehow, in Anthony's world, it's "the left" that's "dangerous."
 
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