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Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge

I am familiar with WLaP. the more people like you squawk about him, the more I believe he is doing a good job as head of the NRA. its funny that a group that protects law abiding gun owners causes so much garment soiling, bed wetting and downright fear and trembling by the loony left

Im afraid of him? Not at all. I think he is literally insane...
 
why are you so hot and bothered about terrorists getting subjected to harsh interrogation techniques?

1.)It doesnt work. There is a broad consensus it doesnt work
2.)Its illegal
3.)It makes us no better than the terrorists who torture
4.)Paints our country in a negative light
5.)Why would a supposed "good family Christian" compare baptism and torture in the same light? Isnt baptism holy?
 
1.)It doesnt work. There is a broad consensus it doesnt work
2.)Its illegal
3.)It makes us no better than the terrorists who torture
4.)Paints our country in a negative light
5.)Why would a supposed "good family Christian" compare baptism and torture in the same light? Isnt baptism holy?

who made it illegal and who is going to prosecute the USA

and it does work in some cases
 
who made it illegal
Well we helped make it illegal. Ever heard of the United Nations Convention against Torture?

and who is going to prosecute the USA
Does that make it rightful to use?

and it does work in some cases
Not according to John McCain, the Army Field Training Manuel, and many neuroscience studies, and various other ex CIA and FBI interrogators.
 
Well we helped make it illegal. Ever heard of the United Nations Convention against Torture?


Does that make it rightful to use?


Not according to John McCain, the Army Field Training Manuel, and many neuroscience studies, and various other ex CIA and FBI interrogators.

well apparently some of the information needed to kill OBL came from water boarding
 
and it does work in some cases

There is no evidence this is actually true.

The only thing torture works for is to suppress internal dissent. When some rabblerouser disappears for six weeks and comes back 30 pounds lighter and with bandages on all his fingertips, people get the message. It doesn't work for obtaining actionable intelligence.
 
Guys.. Palin waits a few months before getting on a podium and saying something stupid to get the Yokels cheering. No need to analyze it for this long.
 
well apparently some of the information needed to kill OBL came from water boarding

Not according to the most recent Senate report from March 31.

Senate report: Waterboarding didn't lead to Osama bin Laden (it's an AP story)

WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. Senate investigation concludes waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods provided no key evidence in the hunt for Osama bin Laden, according to congressional aides and outside experts familiar with a still-secret, 6,200-page report. The finding could deepen the worst rift in years between lawmakers and the CIA.

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The most high-profile detainee linked to the bin Laden investigation was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the accused Sept. 11 mastermind who was waterboarded 183 times. Mohammed, intelligence officials have noted, confirmed after his 2003 capture that he knew an important al-Qaeda courier with the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti.

The Senate report concludes such information wasn't critical, according to the aides. Mohammed only discussed al-Kuwaiti months after being waterboarded, while he was under standard interrogation, they said. And Mohammed neither acknowledged al-Kuwaiti's significance nor provided interrogators with the courier's real name.
 
well apparently some of the information needed to kill OBL came from water boarding

Really? Actually no it didnt.
Torture did not lead us to Osama bin Laden | Clare Algar | Comment is free | theguardian.com
Senate report: Waterboarding didn't lead to Osama bin Laden
http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/wp-...ture-Did-Not-Reveal-Bin-Laden-Whereabouts.pdf

Hell even John McCain (huge warhawk) even said that it didnt lead to Bin Laden
Bin Laden’s death and the debate over torture - The Washington Post

But hey someone has to be a Bush torture apologist..
 
There is no evidence this is actually true.

The only thing torture works for is to suppress internal dissent. When some rabblerouser disappears for six weeks and comes back 30 pounds lighter and with bandages on all his fingertips, people get the message. It doesn't work for obtaining actionable intelligence.
Where did you get that information from? Torture works just fine, that is why it is used. The problem you run in to is that the person being tortured may tell his interrogators anything to get the torture to stop so you often get bad info. But you get the truth too.
 
There is no evidence this is actually true.

The only thing torture works for is to suppress internal dissent. When some rabblerouser disappears for six weeks and comes back 30 pounds lighter and with bandages on all his fingertips, people get the message. It doesn't work for obtaining actionable intelligence.

I disagree

during the Mau Mau rebellion. a Kikuyu Master Sgt assigned to a man I hunted with in Kenya more than two decades later was targeted for reprisal by the Mau Mau. They couldn't get to him so they took his sister, gang raped her, wrapped her in barbed wire and slowly drowned her in a latrine.

One of the Mau Mau rebels was captured by the MS and his British Inspector General of that sector. The IG had been told by his superiors he was "to do what needed to be done" to put down the rebellion but apparently the home office didn't want to know the details. Well the rebel was questioned as to the location of the killers. He talked when he was interrogated with the use of a beer bottle and a rubber mallet. His information allowed the IG and his MS to find the rebel camp an the MS snuck into that camp and killed about half the group silently one night. The next day, the Mau may awoke to see what had happened. Shortly after Hawker Hurricanes napalmed the survivors.

I never did learn what happened to the Mau Mau who got the beer bottle pounded up him. I suspect the brother of the woman he helped rape and murdered killed him after they got the information they needed
 
Where did you get that information from? Torture works just fine, that is why it is used. The problem you run in to is that the person being tortured may tell his interrogators anything to get the torture to stop so you often get bad info. But you get the truth too.

Torture is not wrong, it just doesn't work, says former interrogator - Telegraph

Torture Doesn’t Work, Neurobiologist Says | Harper's Magazine

https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/listen-sen-mccain-torture-doesnt-work

The problem with getting bad info along with possibly some good info is that it becomes impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff. "Non-enhanced" interrogation has worked just fine for years.
 
The problem with getting bad info along with possibly some good info is that it becomes impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Torture for verifiable information works.
 
Torture for verifiable information works.

Of course you have to actually have the right person. At least a couple of times we had the wrong person. Then you have to stop to verify. If this didn't take time, we likely didn't need the person to begin with. So while I won't say anything never works, we have plenty of verifiable evidence of it not working, but not much where it actually worked.
 

That's old, and I warned you then about merely accepting the word of anyone:

A report by the Senate Intelligence Committee concludes that the CIA misled the government and the public about aspects of its brutal interrogation program for years — concealing details about the severity of its methods, overstating the significance of plots and prisoners, and taking credit for critical pieces of intelligence that detainees had in fact surrendered before they were subjected to harsh techniques.

(Snip)

"The CIA described [its program] repeatedly both to the Department of Justice and eventually to Congress as getting unique, otherwise unobtainable intelligence that helped disrupt terrorist plots and save thousands of lives,” said one U.S. official briefed on the report. “Was that actually true? The answer is no.”


CIA misled on interrogation program, Senate report says - The Washington Post
 
Torture for verifiable information works.

Thanks for your extensive list of links backing up your assertion. As we all know, supported positions trump impressions every time... and posts only based on impressions are merely lint in the Internet pipe.


A little better. At least an effort was made. Unfortunately cites from websites the tout extreme positions are substantially BS.... and nothing clogs the Internet pipes faster than BS.
 
Thanks for your extensive list of links backing up your assertion. As we all know, supported positions trump impressions every time... and posts only based on impressions are merely lint in the Internet pipe.

All your BS (off topic) sources address torture for confession and unverifiable information. So spare me the false claims. Torture for verifiable information works. Deal with it.
 
Uh oh, Harvard debating school tactics! What next, holding your breath?

You are a waste of my time. You and your pal don't deal well with facts. Now run along, you're boring me.
 
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