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Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Tells Girlfriend: Don't bring Black People to My Games

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The reason what Sterling said was so horrible is the simple fact that it is part of a historical racist mindset that does go back to the days of slavery.

Sterling's words could easily be translated to:
Blacks are good for working, making you money, being friendly with and even sleeping with. But don't you dare elevate them to the same status as whites.
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That is what troubled the majority of people. And that harkens back to the slave days when slave owners would become friendly with their slaves, some to the point of having children with them, but if ever one of them became too familiar or did it in front of someone else, they would be put in their place. Those scars still exist in the black community so while some might hear it as the ranting of old rich crazy man, others hear it as the haunting of time we are not quite over yet.
 
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tres borrachos said:
I'm registered as a Republican so I can vote in the NH primaries for the Republican.
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So you're Republican. Which coincidentally people with your political lean tend to vote. Glad we cleared that up.

I don't care what party Sterling registered for.
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Me neither. But apparently it's important to Republicans to pretend he's a Democrat, even when the facts say otherwise.

I know who he donated to.
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And who did he donate to and when? Be specific. I want to hear about the $4000-$6000 he donated 20-30 years ago, half of which went to a basketball player.

Who has he donated to?

To me, focusing on his politics is only making the matter worse.
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Then why are you focusing on it? Apacherat made a provably false statement. I corrected him. You seem to have a problem with me correcting him with the truth. Why are you so focused on the political party?
APACHERAT said:
Unless one is a card carrying member of a political party, they aren't actually a member of that political party.
Anyone can register with any political party they choose to but it doesn't mean they are a member of that party in good standing.
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...so now you're telling people what party they belong to, despite what they have officially claimed?

Yeah, you've lost. Sterling is a Republican. I don't really care what party affiliation he is, it doesn't really matter to me. But you're wrong when you try to pretend he's anything other than a Republican, based on the facts we have.
 
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shrubnose said:
Donald Sterling, the owner of the NBA's Los Angeles Clippers, told his girlfriend not to post pictures on Instagram of herself with black people and not to bring black people to his basketball games, according to an audio recording posted by TMZ.

Read more here: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Tells Girlfriend: Don't Bring Black People To My Games | ThinkProgress


I don't go to basketball games and I don't watch them on TV, but I know that a lot of black people play and are interested in basketball, so I am a little surprised that Mr. Sterling, whose girlfriend is half- black and half-Mexican, would say this.

It will be interesting to see what the NBA has to say about this.
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It will also be interesting to see how the left reacts in that he is a democrat and heavy $$ doner to the DNC.
 
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No one except partisans care.
Soupnazi630 said:
It will also be interesting to see how the left reacts in that he is a democrat and heavy $$ doner to the DNC.
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Soupnazi630 said:
It will also be interesting to see how the left reacts in that he is a democrat and heavy $$ doner to the DNC.
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Source?
 
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vesper said:
Well that we can surely agree on. But if your own private/public conversations can't pass the PC Test who among us has the right to condemn another in his private conversation?
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The race baiters. The new kings of media and peoples futures.
 
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Sababa said:
Sterling's words could easily be translated to:
Blacks are good for working, making you money, being friendly with and even sleeping with. But don't you dare elevate them to the same status as whites.
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I'm sorry that your prejudices make you believe that.
 
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Soupnazi630 said:
It will also be interesting to see how the left reacts in that he is a democrat and heavy $$ doner to the DNC.
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It's already happened.

They ignore that inconvenient truth and say it only matters that he is a registered republican.

Reminds me of when a few right pundits were talking republicans into registering democrat so they could help control the democrat primary...
 
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Lord of Planar said:
I'm sorry that your prejudices make you believe that.
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i am sorry that you feel the need to support a racist.........
 
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Lord of Planar said:
It's already happened.

They ignore that inconvenient truth and say it only matters that he is a registered republican.

Reminds me of when a few right pundits were talking republicans into registering democrat so they could help control the democrat primary...
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There is no such thing as the Democrat party....only sheep of the right wing noise machine use that phrase.
 
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Sababa said:
i am sorry that you feel the need to support a racist.........
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I don't support the cuckold. I don't support racism. this is not racism. Those of you indoctrinated into the political correctness dogma need to learn the truth of what racism is.

That said, what people are trying to do to him for being different should be criminal.

Did you listen to all 15 minutes of the audio, or are you regurgitating what the talking heads are telling you to say?
 
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What exactly do you consider racism?
Lord of Planar said:
I don't support the cuckold. I don't support racism. this is not racism. Those of you indoctrinated into the political correctness dogma need to learn the truth of what racism is.

That said, what people are trying to do to him for being different should be criminal.

Did you listen to all 15 minutes of the audio, or are you regurgitating what the talking heads are telling you to say?
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mak2 said:
What exactly do you consider racism?
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Well, it isn't this little fluffy stuff people today think it is. Racism is far worse than a few words said in ignorance. Racism is the belief that one race is superior to another. The closest Sterling came to this is pointing out that people.... damn, I forget his exact words, but he was effectively saying that others have certain expectations, and he wishes not to rock the boat. Not his words, but that's the point.

His words were no worse than people in school not expecting cheerleaders and geeks to hang out together, or other classes of people hanging out together. Everyone does this. Everyone has a bias as to not wanting to associate with one group of people or another. It isn't anything as evil as racism, and to so casually use any form of "racist" for this trivial stuff does nothing but trivialize what racism really is.

On the plus side...

This has really exposed to me how many people here are ignorant...
 
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So to be a racist comment he would have had to said something like, "negros are all on welfare because they are genetically inferior, lazy and not as good as whites."
Lord of Planar said:
Well, it isn't this little fluffy stuff people today think it is. Racism is far worse than a few words said in ignorance. Racism is the belief that one race is superior to another. The closest Sterling came to this is pointing out that people.... damn, I forget his exact words, but he was effectively saying that others have certain expectations, and he wishes not to rock the boat. Not his words, but that's the point.

His words were no worse than people in school not expecting cheerleaders and geeks to hang out together, or other classes of people hanging out together. Everyone does this. Everyone has a bias as to not wanting to associate with one group of people or another. It isn't anything as evil as racism, and to so casually use any form of "racist" for this trivial stuff does nothing but trivialize what racism really is.

On the plus side...

This has really exposed to me how many people here are ignorant...
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mak2 said:
So to be a racist comment he would have had to said something like, "negros are all on welfare because they are genetically inferior, lazy and not as good as whites."
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That would clearly be racist.

You have to remember, this guy grew up in a Jewish culture, and his formative years were the 40's. He knows racism first hand as one to be discriminated against. Not as harshly as blacks, but far worse than you guys are implying because he doesn't want his girlfriend to be photographed with a black and broadcast to the world. He knows he a cuckold, and doesn't want photos circulating with his girl mingling in any personal way with his employees.

If you were the owner of a business, would you like your girlfriend or wife to be seen with numerous employees? Photographed and broadcast to the world?

Do you have a specific quote of his you would like to call racist?

Here's one he said in his argument with her:

"There's nothing wrong with minorities, they're fabulous."

He did praise them on several occasions. I think you all need to remember that he simply was raised differently.
 
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Bascially you have completely defined away racism, but the ignorance still exist. What do we do?
Lord of Planar said:
That would clearly be racist.

You have to remember, this guy grew up in a Jewish culture, and his formative years were the 40's. He knows racism first hand as one to be discriminated against. Not as harshly as blacks, but far worse than you guys are implying because he doesn't want his girlfriend to be photographed with a black and broadcast to the world. He knows he a cuckold, and doesn't want photos circulating with his girl mingling in any personal way with his employees.

If you were the owner of a business, would you like your girlfriend or wife to be seen with numerous employees? Photographed and broadcast to the world?

Do you have a specific quote of his you would like to call racist?

Here's one he said in his argument with her:

"There's nothing wrong with minorities, they're fabulous."
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mak2 said:
Bascially you have completely defined away racism, but the ignorance still exist. What do we do?
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Well, it helps to stop treating a bias of cultural perception as racist. The problem will never go away if people keep arguing incorrect points. Anyone who want to reduce racism as much as possible need to correctly define it. Correctly point out when it is a problem or bias against culture. What happens is we have a really high number of degenerates, coming from a ghetto culture. More of them are black than white, but all races exist within that culture. However, since it is blacks that cause more problems than other races from such cultures, it is actually understandable that people's instinct is to tread carefully until they know someone who is black.

I'm not trying to make excuse, just pointing out a relevant fact. martin Luther king would also share my views that black people need to stop presenting themselves in such bad ways.

How many basketball players are nothing more than thugs that made a skillful and lucky break into money? Now don't take my meaning wrong, I am not implying all blacks are thugs. I am only saying that a great number of them come from inner city cultures. I'm sorry, but people raised the way I'm pretty sure most are... I don't want to associate with any of them any more than I would white trash. Now I'm sure many of them are good outstanding people, but the public perception, which is the fault of black culture, makes me tend to feel most are not good people.

I didn't say inferior... I said not good. Most blacks I have ever know are not acceptable to me because or moral standards. Quite frankly, I feel the same way about more than half the whites I know, but it's probably more like 80% or more blacks that i simply don;'t like their moral values.

I'm probably rambling and not as coherent as I should be. I hope I got my point across. I have met plenty of great black people, in fact, my current girlfriend is black. She's funny... She broadcasts to the world, her words... "I don't like black people." It's the same thing as my point. The culture that most black people grow up in is simply a rather bad culture. Not their fault, but Jesus... When are they going to stop with the excuses that it's the white man's fault and take it upon themselves to better their own culture?
 
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Soupnazi630 said:
It will also be interesting to see how the left reacts in that he is a democrat and heavy $$ doner to the DNC.
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Sterling seems to have been a heavy donor to the NAACP.

The NAACP today isn't the respected organization that it was twenty or so years ago. Today it's political radical left.
 
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Thanks for taking the time to explain your point.
Lord of Planar said:
Well, it helps to stop treating a bias of cultural perception as racist. The problem will never go away if people keep arguing incorrect points. Anyone who want to reduce racism as much as possible need to correctly define it. Correctly point out when it is a problem or bias against culture. What happens is we have a really high number of degenerates, coming from a ghetto culture. More of them are black than white, but all races exist within that culture. However, since it is blacks that cause more problems than other races from such cultures, it is actually understandable that people's instinct is to tread carefully until they know someone who is black.

I'm not trying to make excuse, just pointing out a relevant fact. martin Luther king would also share my views that black people need to stop presenting themselves in such bad ways.

How many basketball players are nothing more than thugs that made a skillful and lucky break into money? Now don't take my meaning wrong, I am not implying all blacks are thugs. I am only saying that a great number of them come from inner city cultures. I'm sorry, but people raised the way I'm pretty sure most are... I don't want to associate with any of them any more than I would white trash. Now I'm sure many of them are good outstanding people, but the public perception, which is the fault of black culture, makes me tend to feel most are not good people.

I didn't say inferior... I said not good. Most blacks I have ever know are not acceptable to me because or moral standards. Quite frankly, I feel the same way about more than half the whites I know, but it's probably more like 80% or more blacks that i simply don;'t like their moral values.

I'm probably rambling and not as coherent as I should be. I hope I got my point across. I have met plenty of great black people, in fact, my current girlfriend is black. She's funny... She broadcasts to the world, her words... "I don't like black people." It's the same thing as my point. The culture that most black people grow up in is simply a rather bad culture. Not their fault, but Jesus... When are they going to stop with the excuses that it's the white man's fault and take it upon themselves to better their own culture?
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Lord of Planar said:
I don't support the cuckold. I don't support racism. this is not racism. Those of you indoctrinated into the political correctness dogma need to learn the truth of what racism is.

That said, what people are trying to do to him for being different should be criminal.

Did you listen to all 15 minutes of the audio, or are you regurgitating what the talking heads are telling you to say?
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Unlike you I don't react to this based on politics. Yes I have listened to this and knew about Don Sterling's racism long before this. He is a horrible person and the fact that the NBA doesn't want him part of their club is not criminal.

Just because you don't think it is racism, I would rather ask those who have to deal with him regularly and I think I will take their word over yours, of and my own analysis.
 
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Soupnazi630 said:
It will also be interesting to see how the left reacts in that he is a democrat
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and heavy $$ doner to the DNC.
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Wrong.

He is a registered Republican.

Get your facts straight.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
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Shhhh, they are pretending he is a Democrat.
shrubnose said:
Wrong.

He is a registered Republican.

Get your facts straight.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
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Sababa said:
Unlike you I don't react to this based on politics. Yes I have listened to this and knew about Don Sterling's racism long before this. He is a horrible person and the fact that the NBA doesn't want him part of their club is not criminal.

Just because you don't think it is racism, I would rather ask those who have to deal with him regularly and I think I will take their word over yours, of and my own analysis.
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Prove he is a racist.

You cant.

Innuendo is not fact.

You are the one acting with politics, the political correctness definition of racism.
 
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Lord of Planar said:
Prove he is a racist.

You cant.

Innuendo is not fact.

You are the one acting with politics, the political correctness definition of racism.
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"Don't bring black people to the games" didn't raise a flag to you?
 
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Top Cat said:
It is so easy to suggest to others they should give up their money.
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if their principles are that important to them, then yes.......

if you are going to cry about the guy being a racist, but you are still cashing his checks, you are a ****ing hypocrite.
 
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