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Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Tells Girlfriend: Don't bring Black People to My Games

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Does it help knowing the context or impact on the sport? Or is defending the racist white guy from all the PC-types more important to ya?

I dont care if he is racist or not, I am tired of racism is only committed by white people. BS.
If we are going to have the racism 24/7/365 be honest and show both sides of it.

But I am not blinded to what is going on not one bit.
 
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I dont care if he is racist or not, I am tired of racism is only committed by white people. BS.

That's not really the issue here. Your whining about the media is beside the point.
 
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How is his first amendment rights in jeopardy?

Wouldn't be. However, it's a tricky thing when a recording of a private (at the time) conversation between a couple becomes public and then the man's standing within the organization he owns and runs is at jeopardy.
 
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Wouldn't be. However, it's a tricky thing when a recording of a private (at the time) conversation between a couple becomes public and then the man's standing within the organization he owns and runs is at jeopardy.

In other words, freedom of speech does not include freedom from the consequences of what we say.
 
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In other words, freedom of speech does not include freedom from the consequences of what we say.

Correct. It will just become a matter of sorting out which social values we establish as necessary and not necessary.
 
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Time to boycott the NBA obviously it is very racist! Do not support it by buying the products! Do not watch the games live or on the TV.

Stop the racism! I knew this 15 years ago when i stopped watching it!

The idea that the NBA itself is "racist" is sheer lunacy.

That said, Donald Sterling has long had a reputation as a complete and utter asshole and this should come as no surprise to anyone.
 
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Why does this belong in the public spotlight?

Major sports franchises cater to the public. They rely on the public's fandom and revenue. It's inevitable and frankly appropriate.

If she recorded that conversation without his knowledge you do realize that is a felony correct?

:shrug: He won't press charges. The last thing he'll aim to do is shed the spotlight on these comments once more and confirm their validity.
 
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Where did i defend? I did however see the left trot out a for real racist in Trayvon Martin. As he made several racist remarks before he attacked another person of different ethnicity and the left portrayed him as a victim racism. I am so not surprised at how many racist people jumped all over that and yelled for Trayvon.

You know, it's entirely possible to be racist and simultaneously be a victim of racism.

By the way, what's the statute of limitations on how long you guys are going to continue to flog Trayvon Martin's corpse for political points?

But for all that it wont really matter as the weak minded cannot see that they are trying to play race to start a major conflict within the US.

Says the guy who called the NBA "racist" in the first few posts of the thread.

6 years of race baiting and I for one am sick of it. This is all divide and conquer techniques has been nothing but division since the dictator has been "elected".

Cute how you put "elected" in quotes.
 
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When you create a working atmosphere completely antagonistic and unsupporting toward your talent and your fan base, you can bet your butt people are clamoring for him to be gone.

People have been clamoring for Sterling to be gone for damn near 30 years.

However, the NBA can't just take the team away. They can lean on him to sell and generally make his life miserable, but just seizing the team isn't an option. Sharpton's an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
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The idea that the NBA itself is "racist" is sheer lunacy.

That said, Donald Sterling has long had a reputation as a complete and utter asshole and this should come as no surprise to anyone.

It is extremely racist and this is proof. that is why it needs to be Boycotted we need to stop this racism now!
 
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It is extremely racist and this is proof. that is why it needs to be Boycotted we need to stop this racism now!

You are laughably wrong. Again.

One of the team owners saying something horribly racist is "proof" that the enterprise itself is "racist"? Who, exactly, is the NBA as a whole "racist" against?
 
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How is his first amendment rights in jeopardy?

Wanting his property taken for telling his girlfriend something in private that got out in public.
 
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Wanting his property taken for telling his girlfriend something in private that got out in public.

The first amendment doesn't protect you from consequences....unless the government takes it his rights are intact.
 
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People have been clamoring for Sterling to be gone for damn near 30 years.

However, the NBA can't just take the team away. They can lean on him to sell and generally make his life miserable, but just seizing the team isn't an option. Sharpton's an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.

I get that, and I agree, Sharpton is much more prone to argue that the most dramatic solution to the problem is the one that is always available, even when it's not.
 
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You know, it's entirely possible to be racist and simultaneously be a victim of racism.

By the way, what's the statute of limitations on how long you guys are going to continue to flog Trayvon Martin's corpse for political points?



Says the guy who called the NBA "racist" in the first few posts of the thread.



Cute how you put "elected" in quotes.

Kobie we do agree on something it seems. I know you are not impressed.

But I do have just one question. Was Trayvon being racist at that time during that incident? Was trayvon attacking because he was racist and had hatred for the white cracker?
Between the two only one made racist comments.

my problem with most of this is how everyone is blind to the fact that black people are just as racist as white people.
 
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When you create a working atmosphere completely antagonistic and unsupporting toward your talent and your fan base, you can bet your butt people are clamoring for him to be gone.

Can just steal the guys property and take the team away. Fans are free to stop going to their games and the talent is free to stop signing contracts with the team... But you can't just steal from the guy.
 
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Kobie we do agree on something it seems. I know you are not impressed.

But I do have just one question. Was Trayvon being racist at that time during that incident? Was trayvon attacking because he was racist and had hatred for the white cracker?
Between the two only one made racist comments.

my problem with most of this is how everyone is blind to the fact that black people are just as racist as white people.

Well, I wasn't there, so I don't know if Trayvon attacked because he was "being racist." If I had to guess, I'd say he attacked because he felt threatened because he was being followed.

That's all I'm saying about Trayvon Martin, since I refuse to get into another Martin/Zimmerman pissing match. Trayvon Martin has been dead for more than two years; it's time the ceaseless flogging of his corpse stopped.
 
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Can just steal the guys property and take the team away. Fans are free to stop going to their games and the talent is free to stop signing contracts with the team... But you can't just steal from the guy.

They can potentially suspend him, if I am lead correctly. They can't force the man to sell, but they can put pressure on him, and many factions of the league, its hall of famers, and the fans can put as much pressure as they want on the guy. The demand that he should not be there anymore is perfectly within reason.
 
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Well, I wasn't there, so I don't know if Trayvon attacked because he was "being racist." If I had to guess, I'd say he attacked because he felt threatened because he was being followed.

That's all I'm saying about Trayvon Martin, since I refuse to get into another Martin/Zimmerman pissing match. Trayvon Martin has been dead for more than two years; it's time the ceaseless flogging of his corpse stopped.


were his comments racist? That is a matter of publicly known fact eh did say them.
 
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They can potentially suspend him, if I am lead correctly. They can't force the man to sell, but they can put pressure on him, and many factions of the league, its hall of famers, and the fans can put as much pressure as they want on the guy. The demand that he should not be there anymore is perfectly within reason.

I'm sure they can suspend him. Marge Schott was suspended, as was Steinbrenner (if I recall correctly). But, that is different then saying he should lose his franchise. people being offended does not negate property rights.
 
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I saw a pic of his gf. She's pretty hot, and young. My first thought was that she's only with him for his money, so it's a convenient relationship for both of them. He gets the hot young gf, she gets the status of his money. Screams dysfunction regardless which angle you view it.
 
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My prediction:
  • People will scream bloody murder
  • NBA will hand down some symbolic, but meaningless, punishment
  • More people will scream bloody murder
  • Issue will fade away
  • Games will go on as usual
 
Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Tells Girlfriend: Don't bring Black People to My G

I'm sure they can suspend him. Marge Schott was suspended, as was Steinbrenner (if I recall correctly). But, that is different then saying he should lose his franchise. people being offended does not negate property rights.

But as you know, public and professional pressure can be used to such an extent that it would render it potentially difficult for the organization to "move forward" or however else you may want to frame it. The property rights exist, but that does not mean that the freedom of speech won't cut it to where that person is free from pressure or extreme levels of criticism for not stepping aside.
 
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I saw a pic of his gf. She's pretty hot, and young. My first thought was that she's only with him for his money, so it's a convenient relationship for both of them. He gets the hot young gf, she gets the status of his money. Screams dysfunction regardless which angle you view it.

I believe I read that in his comments, he even stated he doesn't care if she sleep with them (referring to blacks) , just don't be public about it. So, not much of a relationship I am sure.

-- "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games." (5:15)

I kind of wonder if it wasn't so much as a racsit comment, as it was something more along the lines of you are portrayed as my GF, don't do things in public to cause a problem with that. I really am just speculating, though.
 
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were his comments racist? That is a matter of publicly known fact eh did say them.

I honestly could not care less.
 
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