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Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Tells Girlfriend: Don't bring Black People to My Games

Re: Clippers Owner Donald Sterling Tells Girlfriend: Don't bring Black People to My G

Hatuey said:
Taking his team away for racist comments would be like taking Jesse Jackson's church away for his comments on Jews. It won't happen and it's mighty unrealistic. Not to mention completely in violation of his constitutional rights.
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The NBA could force him out; in fact, I think this is the kind of PR disaster that will urge them to do exactly that.
 
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sangha said:
Do you think you could be baited into saying "Don't bring any black people around" ?
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Absolutely not. But I would excuse an 80-year-old fart from saying it. He is a product of his time. Don't worry. He won't be around long. ;)
 
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Zyphlin said:
Regardless of peoples views on what he said or what should happen, it doesn't look like the NBA will likely have the power to force him to sell the team:

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I don't think they can force it; however, I think they can make his life miserable enough that he'll sell on his own volition.

Zyphlin said:
The one thing owners could possibly do is remove the Clippers from the league, allowing the owner to keep ownership...but not letting the team be part of the NBA. However, that's EXTREMELY unlikely to occur.
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I guess "zero point zero percent chance" qualifies as EXTREMELY unlikely. :2razz:

Zyphlin said:
The players could possibly refuse to play for him, but it's also doubtful they're going to forgo the paychecks and simply wait out their contracts due to having an issue with what the owner said.
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Won't happen.

Zyphlin said:
Fans could simply stop going to the game or buying merchandise, but there hasn't been much evidence that fans will significantly abandon purchasing things regarding a pro sports team due to displeasure with an owner, coach, or player.
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Probably will happen to a certain extent, but not enough to make any serious financial impact.

Zyphlin said:
Nor is this a GM or a coach where you could potentially suspend them. How do you "suspend" an owner? What would you suspend them from?
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George Steinbrenner was suspended in the early-mid 1990s for hiring a mobster to dig up dirt on Dave Winfield. He basically wasn't allowed to have anything to do with day-to-day management of the team.
 
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Kobie said:
The NBA could force him out; in fact, I think this is the kind of PR disaster that will urge them to do exactly that.
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The new commish is moving fast.
He's acting professional and seems to know the law.
Just removing ds from attending games sends an early message.
Contrast that with Cuban after the Dallas win at the buzzer .
 
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NIMBY said:
The new commish is moving fast.
He's acting professional and seems to know the law.
Just removing ds from attending games sends an early message.
Contrast that with Cuban after the Dallas win at the buzzer .
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That was an unbelievable shot by Carter.
 
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Kobie said:
The NBA could force him out; in fact, I think this is the kind of PR disaster that will urge them to do exactly that.
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For comments made in private and recorded without his consent? Look, this is a racist comment made by a racist guy.... who just so happens to own a basketball team. If he knows what's good for the team, he'll disappear from public view or do some sort of good works PR show around LA. Then the NBA will fine him for his comments. A long, tedious (and legal) battle to oust him from the team will probably do more harm than good for the overall morale of the team.
 
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Kobie said:
The NBA could force him out; in fact, I think this is the kind of PR disaster that will urge them to do exactly that.
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Can they though? How would the NBA force him out?

Reports are the owners can't vote to force him to sell the Clippers for making racist statements, even if they got a negative backlash. It's highly unlikely that they will simply just kick the Clippers out of the league. So how would they "force him out"?
 
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Zyphlin said:
Can they though? How would the NBA force him out?

Reports are the owners can't vote to force him to sell the Clippers for making racist statements, even if they got a negative backlash. It's highly unlikely that they will simply just kick the Clippers out of the league. So how would they "force him out"?
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Fine the crap out of him and just make his life miserable. Put pressure on the Forum not to renew its lease with the Clippers. Stuff like that.
 
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Hatuey said:
For comments made in private and recorded without his consent? Look, this is a racist comment made by a racist guy.... who just so happens to own a basketball team. If he knows what's good for the team, he'll disappear from public view or do some sort of good works PR show around LA. Then the NBA will fine him for his comments. A long, tedious (and legal) battle to oust him from the team will probably do more harm than good for the overall morale of the team.
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I'm not saying squeezing him out is what they should do, although I think for the long-term good of the Clippers franchise the sooner this guy isn't running it, the better. But I think they'll begin the process of freezing him out and urging him to sell.
 
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It was--and Cuban is the kind of owner these guys want to play for--good for the game.
Besides, 1750 Texan is a Spurs fan. :lamo
Kobie said:
That was an unbelievable shot by Carter.
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Wilbon had a segment on E$PN discussing past racist problems with ds.
Baron Davis described how difficult it was to play when he'd show up at games, knowing his previous racial comments.
He won't have to worry about Magic showing up, the owner of the Dodgers.

ds has lived too long to back down and go positive in public with PR and philanthropy .
 
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Kobie said:
Fine the crap out of him and just make his life miserable. Put pressure on the Forum not to renew its lease with the Clippers. Stuff like that.
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They can probably fine the crap out of him, but unlikely able to legally fine him such that it becomes more financially viable to NOT be an owner of the team. In terms of the Forum not renewing the lease, that hurts the league if the Clippers don't have a venue to play games or is playing in a shoddy arena. It hurts the league likely FAR more than Sterling remaining an owner. As sad as it may seem, Sterling's comments won't really be in most peoples mind come next year. Playing in a second rate arena for every Clippers game, or having the Clippers not able to play home games, would be ever present.
 
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votemout said:
Why does this belong in the public spotlight? If she recorded that conversation without his knowledge you do realize that is a felony correct?
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My Android automatically records all my phone calls. Not much I can seem to do about it. I found out when I got a low memory warning because I had two years of recorded phone calls. It was a hoot replaying some of them before I deleted them all.

That said, it depends on what state you are in. Some states only one party needs to know, such that outside parties cannot record you without proper warrant, etc, but anyone participating in the call can.
 
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Kobie said:
Fine the crap out of him and just make his life miserable. Put pressure on the Forum not to renew its lease with the Clippers. Stuff like that.
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Kobie said:
I'm not saying squeezing him out is what they should do, although I think for the long-term good of the Clippers franchise the sooner this guy isn't running it, the better. But I think they'll begin the process of freezing him out and urging him to sell.
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That's not very slightly liberal of you. It sounds borderline authoritarian. Why should his actions be reprimanded in this way? He hasn't done anything people don't already do in the confines of their own homes.
 
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Hatuey said:
That's not very slightly liberal of you. It sounds borderline authoritarian. Why should his actions be reprimanded in this way? He hasn't done anything people don't already do in the confines of their own homes.
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But I ... just ... said ...

Kobie said:
I'm not saying squeezing him out is what they should do, although I think for the long-term good of the Clippers franchise the sooner this guy isn't running it, the better. But I think they'll begin the process of freezing him out and urging him to sell.
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Zyphlin said:
Can they though? How would the NBA force him out?

Reports are the owners can't vote to force him to sell the Clippers for making racist statements, even if they got a negative backlash. It's highly unlikely that they will simply just kick the Clippers out of the league. So how would they "force him out"?
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Ask Marge Schott.
 
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Kobie said:
Would be kind of difficult now lol
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The world is a better place
 
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MaggieD said:
Bull****!!! This woman set him up. If you buy into this bull**** tape, good for you. She was baiting him...setting him up...I hope she made her $$, 'cause I'm betting he's through with her ass.
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I hope he does. Nobody will have her after this.
 
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votemout said:
6 years of race baiting and I for one am sick of it.
This is all divide and conquer techniques has been nothing but division since the dictator has been "elected".
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It always has to come back to Obama doesn't it?
Sterling makes racist comments, Obama has been race-baiting for 6 years, though he's only been POTUS for 5 years and 2+ months..
Sterling doesn't want Blacks to come to his games, so it's the dictator Obama's divide and conquer techniques, your words .
 
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Dion said:
No you did not paraphrase you lied by changing the context and meaning. However that reflects on you and not me and it is all here recorded.
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Just to be clear, you are saying this man is amodern day slave owner but the other NBA team owners are not?
 
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Age old right-wing technique, shoot the messenger for what he did wrong .
Mason66 said:
I hope he does. Nobody will have her after this.
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NIMBY said:
Age old right-wing technique, shoot the messenger for what he did wrong .
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It is a trust issue. She can never be trusted again, so nobody will have her after this.

Is there something in that statement you disagree with?
 
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Have you spoken of the despicable comments of the racist owner yet?
Are you aware of his history of racist comments as an owner.
If you check the thread, you will see you have plenty of company in deflecting away from the owner .
Mason66 said:
It is a trust issue. She can never be trusted again, so nobody will have her after this.

Is there something in that statement you disagree with?
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NIMBY said:
Have you spoken of the despicable comments of the racist owner yet?
Are you aware of his history of racist comments as an owner.
If you check the thread, you will see you have plenty of company in deflecting away from the owner .
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I don't care what he said. It doesn't affect me or anybody else in this world.

Why would it posible matter to anybody what he said to his girlfriend in a private conversation?

Do you loose sleep at night because he doesn't want his girlfriend bringing other men to his game?
 
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