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Walkout of Anti-Gay Event

CRUE CAB said:
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Good. You've found the words to summarize your position perfectly. When you fumble about in the future, just refer back to your mantra.
 
Cardinal said:
*bumpety bump*

Seriously, digsbe, c'mon.
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Been at school all day and wrote a paper.

I think it would have been appropriate to protest outside. I'm not saying what they did do should be illegal, it's just rude and inappropriate and disrespectful to the speaker.
 
Grand Mal said:
I'm gonna ask for an example of what you mean by laws that support the 'general welfare'. I picture anti-noise bylaws.
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Well, welfare for one thing. All the other entitlement programs. Environmental laws, business regulation, laws which promote public health and safety......
 
digsbe said:
Been at school all day and wrote a paper.

I think it would have been appropriate to protest outside. I'm not saying what they did do should be illegal, it's just rude and inappropriate and disrespectful to the speaker.
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So they should protest where they're not heard or seen?

Again, Disgbe.....c'mon. That's not how protests work.
 
Cardinal said:
So they should protest where they're not heard or seen?

Again, Disgbe.....c'mon. That's not how protests work.
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I never said they shouldn't. I just said the manner in which it was done was rude :shrug:
 
digsbe said:
I never said they shouldn't. I just said the manner in which it was done was rude :shrug:
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But the only option you've left open for a protest to take place in which you don't consider it rude is one in which it's not seen or heard (by the people it's directed at). That sort of handicaps the whole point of a protest from the outset.
 
Grand Mal said:
Why are conservatives always against personal rights?
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Well, we aren't against personal rights, is how.

Grand Mal said:
They always come out for more government control in private lives.
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I condone SSM but you're wrong on this point. Legalizing same-sex marriage is actually introducing the government into more lives. Thats what a legal marriage is, making the state a signing party in your relationship. Thats how you get those certain legal protections and rights. If you don't legaly marry then the state has no buisness in your relationship.
 
Jerry said:
Well, we aren't against personal rights, is how.


I condone SSM but you're wrong on this point. Legalizing same-sex marriage is actually introducing the government into more lives. Thats what a legal marriage is, making the state a signing party in your relationship. Thats how you get those certain legal protections and rights. If you don't legaly marry then the state has no buisness in your relationship.
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Is that why it should be illegal for gays to marry? Lotta bullcrap.
 
Cardinal said:
But the only option you've left open for a protest to take place in which you don't consider it rude is one in which it's not seen or heard----
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Ohhhhh...got it.
 
So what did all you professors do the next day at class?


Okay everybody, when the clock is exactly at ten minutes after the hour everybody drop their pencils on the floor at the same time. It will be so cool; the teacher will be like what the hell?
 
Glad to see the First Amendment is still alive at Sinclair Community College. :lamo

Amateurs I would say, liberals at Columbia University would have cut the power to the PA system rushed the stage and maybe even a few coconut cream pies would have been thrown.
 
What the university students did is tame. Canada just arrested the guy yesterday, "LaBarbera was arrested and charged on Monday, along with a Saskatchewan man who was also on campus trying to distribute literature about the 'evils of homosexuality.'" He spent the night in jail and now has a court hearing in May. I wonder if he'll respect Canada's rule of law or if he'll bounce and skip the hearing.

Anti-gay activist Peter LaBarbera heading home to U.S. - Saskatchewan - CBC News
 
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Grand Mal said:
Is that why it should be illegal for gays to marry? Lotta bullcrap.
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I never said it should be illegal for gays to marry. I think SSM should be legal.

That doesn't change the fact that legaly marrying is opening your life to more government regulation, not less. You've been told that the government refusing to give you a marriage certificet is an intrusion, but it's not. Its the government refusing to intrude. What pro-SSM wants is access to this voluntary government intrusion.
 
Grand Mal said:
Is this a fair summary of your position?
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The summary of my argument was your gross over-generalization and broad claim of both sides was innaccurate.

That is a fair summary of an EXAMPLE I gave where many liberals support making an action that harms no one illegal.
 
brothern said:
What the university students did is tame. Canada just arrested the guy yesterday, "LaBarbera was arrested and charged on Monday, along with a Saskatchewan man who was also on campus trying to distribute literature about the 'evils of homosexuality.'" He spent the night in jail and now has a court hearing in May. I wonder if he'll respect Canada's rule of law or if he'll bounce and skip the hearing.

Anti-gay activist Peter LaBarbera heading home to U.S. - Saskatchewan - CBC News
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Arrested for passing out literature. That just seems so wrong to me.
 
Your Star said:
I wonder if the people mad about this walkout were mad about the walkout below?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...eaker-curses-christian-teens-w-165-667-a.html
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Questions like this always cut both ways.

Your Star said:
Yes they were being hypersensitive, just sit down and listen, you don't have to walk out acting like a child believing you can only hear stuff that makes you happy. The fact that people are offended is stupid, and makes me ****ing sad. I just wanna yank them by the collar and tell them to grow the **** up. I'm tired of people having this "oh I'm offended more" war, it lowers discourse, and keeps us from actually talking about anything with substance. **** being offended, it's stupid, gets us nowhere and is childish. We as a society need to grow the **** up.
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Your Star said:
I would sit there, and probably laugh because he's so retarded, because choose to go, and I would probably try to talk to them if it was possible. The people who walked out need to grow the **** up, plain and simple. Like I said, **** being offended.
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X Factor said:
Arrested for passing out literature. That just seems so wrong to me.
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If I go look back at the history of your posts, what will I find you saying about the reverse situation in Russia?

Do you find it wrong if gays pass out literature in Russia and are arrested?
 
sangha said:
It's called "moral suasion" and it has been shown to work.

You can mock it, if it pleases you
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They mock it because they don't want it to work, and indeed mocking it takes the edge off of it. The religious right and its sympathizers would rather there was no such thing a 'moral'-suasion right now, because they are losing the battle.
 
X Factor said:
Questions like this always cut both ways.
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Later on in the thread. ;)

Your Star said:
You know what, your probably right, I've been in the wrong in this thread. I just get mad when people who are actively oppressing me for my sexuality get mad at something like this. Like they are equatable, and it clouded my judgement. What the guy said was wrong, I don't even like the guy, and it was okay for the kids to walk out, even though I wouldn't have done such a thing myself. If anyone is at fault here it is the school for not asking for a transcript of what he was going to say.
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CriticalThought said:
If I go look back at the history of your posts, what will I find you saying about the reverse situation in Russia?

Do you find it wrong if gays pass out literature in Russia and are arrested?
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How is that a "reverse situation"? Sounds like the exact same situation, well except that it does not surprise me about Russia. Haven't we always known that free speech is non existant there?
 
Your Star said:
Later on in the thread. ;)
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Actually there were like 3 or 4 other posts of yours bashing the kids for walking out before you decided it was just, I guess, sort of ok what the kids did. What happened to all the "**** being sensitive"? And the kids should have stayed, because that's what you would have done?
 
Grand Mal said:
. There seems to be some confusion among Americans about definitions.



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If people would speak of conservatISM instead of conservaTIVES, then they would certainly display more acumen. Understanding a political philosophy means understanding its tenets,and treating poilitics in terms of mere identity fails to do so.

As to your blanket statement about conservaTIVES, being behind every blah blah blah, however, I would say you are wrong. In areas such as environmental regulation and gun control,it is liberals who seek to reduce liberties. They see these as justified restrictions due to the greater good, but restricts what an individual can do nonetheless.
 
darkrecess said:
if you are going to use your first amendment rights, you have to be willing to accept that others are going to use theirs...
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That is a no, no for those endorsing "traditional values" because such manifestations diminish the impact of their bigotry.
 
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