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Condi Rice Blasts Obama on Weakness, Leadership

I'm not sure about the not thinking part.
I think she was just repeating that administration's talking points.
Like a good soldier.
Colin Powell also touted the WMD line and ended up losing a lot of credibility.
Too bad for both of them.

You can be a good soldier and think too. If she was thinking, she could have left that mushroom cloud stuff out.
Poor Colin Powell. He really made a fool out of himself. What's far out about it was that he argued against going into Iraq, but they sent him in front of the world to spout all that BS!!!
Goes to show you, black folks always get the short end of the stick!!! :lamo
 
Heya Cardinal. :2wave: Yeah she has said that.....but then people have been talking to her. Now she is getting out more and speaking out. that is now evidently clear. Do you think she might re-consider?

Now that she finally is.....it will be problems for Obama's overseas team and himself.

Obama himself wouldn't want to debate Condi.....let alone Hillary wanting to take her on.

Condi was a big mouthpiece for the false info leading to the Iraq War. After she said "mushroom cloud" about 100 times I lost all trust in her. Hillary would tear her to pieces and she knows it. That's why she won't run.
 
while i am critical of palin, she lacks some essential element to be found credible, she seemed to have an excellent (maybe intuitive) sense about how to motivate an audience. reminded me quite a bit of Ann Richards
before she was added to the ticket, mccain literally could not draw a crowd in a grocery store
his campaign was flat, and headed nowhere until palin became the semi-official spokesmodel for republican values
she was a net plus to that ticket

This is true.
Sarah's got charisma and definitely has a cadre of loyal supporters.
Just enough to support her PAC, but not enough to win an election.
 
More likely, a TV weather girl.
Her degree was in communications with an emphasis on journalism.
Her communications skills seem subpar.



True enough.
But at least you can name two writers you have read.
I wonder what Sarah's response would have been if Couric had asked her what books she's read?

Actually, if someone asked me to name 2 books I'm reading now, I would stutter and drool. And the last book I read was Shirley Jones' autobiography which I downloaded on my son's Kindle about 4 months ago. So while people would expect that someone who read all the Classics in college (I graduated with high honors and had to do a long thesis on Chaucer) is a rabid reader of anything, I simply don't read anymore. No time, interest. I could name authors I read in the past, yes.

I don't ever read newspapers anymore. I scan our local paper here to see who got arrested for soliciting prostitutes but that's about it.

Sarah would have made a great weather bunny actually. I've seen her up close. Very close, in fact, when she & Todd were in Salem NH back in 2012 doing a rally and I worked at it. She's actually quite lovely - she has skin I would kill for.

By the way, I'm still scarred from Shirley's tales of threesomes with her and Jack Cassidy and young Vegas showgirls. Who knew Mrs. Partridge was so wild?
 
while i am critical of palin, she lacks some essential element to be found credible, she seemed to have an excellent (maybe intuitive) sense about how to motivate an audience. reminded me quite a bit of Ann Richards
before she was added to the ticket, mccain literally could not draw a crowd in a grocery store
his campaign was flat, and headed nowhere until palin became the semi-official spokesmodel for republican values
she was a net plus to that ticket

That is exactly the value she brought. I don't think he was going to win anyway. Sarah certainly didn't hurt him, and she probably brought him a lot of votes he wouldn't have gotten without her.
 
Condi was a big mouthpiece for the false info leading to the Iraq War. After she said "mushroom cloud" about 100 times I lost all trust in her. Hillary would tear her to pieces and she knows it. That's why she won't run.

Hillary don't stand a Chance.....Condi wins the Debates, Speeches.....and she won't have to shed a tear to win any of them. That's not even looking at all of Hillary's Garbage she carries with her. That's just on the Knowledge of how things work. No Re-set button for Hillary here. That's why Hillary don't say anything about her to much. Don't want to end up playing the fool for the Cameras. Like she always does. ;)

Tearing up Democrats isn't what Condi has to worry about.....that's a given!
 
I simply don't read anymore. No time, interest. I could name authors I read in the past, yes.

That happens to all of us.
Stupid real life.
Since the building industry collapsed and I'm semi-retired (frequently unemployed), I've got much more time on my hands.
Tragically, most of my reading time is wasted on Elmore Leonard tomes.:shrug:

I don't ever read newspapers anymore. I scan our local paper here to see who got arrested for soliciting prostitutes but that's about it.

Gotta keep up on the crime stats.
I blame Elmore Leonard.


By the way, I'm still scarred from Shirley's tales of threesomes with her and Jack Cassidy and young Vegas showgirls. Who knew Mrs. Partridge was so wild?

Good looking woman.
I blame Jack Cassidy.
 
Condi was a big mouthpiece for the false info leading to the Iraq War. After she said "mushroom cloud" about 100 times I lost all trust in her. Hillary would tear her to pieces and she knows it. That's why she won't run.

my impression is condi has a fear of failure
i don't know that she will take on an assignment unless she is absolutely certain she will accomplish it
and if my unscientific opinion is correct, that might keep her out of the race

but the woman has an impeccable CV
she has experience and expertise
she has criticism from cheney and rumsfeld, which will help distance her from the failed dicknbush regime
and she has an open field; there is no one on the GOP horizon who could effectively challenge her if she did choose to run

a black woman. cuts into the demo assurance of the black vote
has equal standing with hillary regards the womens' vote
and i would not be surprised if she could not acquire a larger portion of the centrist vote, compared to clinton
that's the segment which decides elections
republican turnout is stronger than demo turnout
suspect that will especially be the case with a hillary candidacy. where is the motivation to turn out the vote
don't think the demos could effectively demonize condi
and then there is that intangible element of charisma. while bill had it in spades, hillary has none. condi tops her there, too
here is where i believe condi has the edge. she is interested in policy - NOT politics. that is a plus in today's anti-politician environment. our nation craves someone who can effect and articulate sound public policy. in contrast, hillary is a political operative. not an idea generator. not a person who inspires with her solutions. this quality is what makes condi the republican party's ideal candidate today. the party should draft her


condi running against hillary is the demo nightmare scenario to holding the white house in 2016
 
I guarantee you the Left would be scared of Condi. They would pull a Palin attack on steroids if she decided to run. What they did to Palin would look like nothing.

You cannot compare Palin to Rice. Rice has a brain, something that Palin is lacking.
 
I agree she was/is intellectually lazy. I also don't think the Katie Couric thing was as big as people make it out to be. In the grand scheme of things, anyway. Besides, I blame the McCain staffers for plucking her out of obscurity and setting her in that role. I like Palin, but she wasn't the right person for the VP nod in any way. I was looking for a Marsha Blackburn type if they were hell bent on picking a woman.

Its not the Katie Couric interview to which I refer. Yes, she did very poorly on that show, but its just one show. Anyone can have a bad day.

Its her general body of "work" (if you want to call it that), that is lacking. She is simply a populist that speaks in cliches and cute jargon without any real ideas about anything. There is nothing more shallow than a Sarah Palin speech. It usually lacks the originality and thought of a bad high school commencement address (you know, canned and predictable)... I do admit, however, she can deliver her triteness with great flair.
 
You cannot compare Palin to Rice. Rice has a brain, something that Palin is lacking.

As I pointed out earlier, I do think Palin is actually reasonably intelligent or she would not work (game) the system as well as she does. She is, however, woefully uneducated on policy, particularly international policy AND intellectually lazy. This makes her ignorant, which certainly comes across as stupid.
 
Its not the Katie Couric interview to which I refer. Yes, she did very poorly on that show, but its just one show. Anyone can have a bad day.

Its her general body of "work" (if you want to call it that), that is lacking. She is simply a populist that speaks in cliches and cute jargon without any real ideas about anything. There is nothing more shallow than a Sarah Palin speech. It usually lacks the originality and thought of a bad high school commencement address (you know, canned and predictable)... I do admit, however, she can deliver her triteness with great flair.

Speaking isn't her forte. Her delivery is what draws people in.

Personally I find her fascinating. I think a lot of other people do too. It's been 6 years and she can still fill a thread of posts.
 
my impression is condi has a fear of failure
i don't know that she will take on an assignment unless she is absolutely certain she will accomplish it
and if my unscientific opinion is correct, that might keep her out of the race

but the woman has an impeccable CV
she has experience and expertise
she has criticism from cheney and rumsfeld, which will help distance her from the failed dicknbush regime
and she has an open field; there is no one on the GOP horizon who could effectively challenge her if she did choose to run

a black woman. cuts into the demo assurance of the black vote
has equal standing with hillary regards the womens' vote
and i would not be surprised if she could not acquire a larger portion of the centrist vote, compared to clinton
that's the segment which decides elections
republican turnout is stronger than demo turnout
suspect that will especially be the case with a hillary candidacy. where is the motivation to turn out the vote
don't think the demos could effectively demonize condi
and then there is that intangible element of charisma. while bill had it in spades, hillary has none. condi tops her there, too
here is where i believe condi has the edge. she is interested in policy - NOT politics. that is a plus in today's anti-politician environment. our nation craves someone who can effect and articulate sound public policy. in contrast, hillary is a political operative. not an idea generator. not a person who inspires with her solutions. this quality is what makes condi the republican party's ideal candidate today. the party should draft her


condi running against hillary is the demo nightmare scenario to holding the white house in 2016


Excellent Post JB.
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As I pointed out earlier, I do think Palin is actually reasonably intelligent or she would not work (game) the system as well as she does. She is, however, woefully uneducated on policy, particularly international policy AND intellectually lazy. This makes her ignorant, which certainly comes across as stupid.

That is a good assessment. And its why she should not be president or vice president for that matter.
 
Bottom line. Condolezza Rice is not going to run for president. She's not the politician type. She's an intellectual and likely cherishes her privacy. That's my feel on her.
 
You are right... the word "credible" would be more apt than "formidable". She has the credentials for the job, but her role/association in the advocacy of the Iraq war makes her electability as POTUS practically nil.




Probably the biggest mistakes that Condi Rice made in her life was supporting the neo-con's totally unnecessary war in Iraq and her support of the use of torture.

The American people will never send this woman to the White House.

Don't take my word for this, just wait and see what happens.
 
You cannot compare Palin to Rice. Rice has a brain, something that Palin is lacking.

I'm beginning to think that Palin is a closet liberal.
 
Bottom line. Condolezza Rice is not going to run for president. She's not the politician type. She's an intellectual and likely cherishes her privacy. That's my feel on her.

Well, never say never, but I am a longtime admirer of Dr. Rice, and I've always thought she really meant it when she said she wasn't interested in the Presidency but was interested in being NFL Commissioner. I'm glad that she's speaking publicly because her opinions are worth considering whether I agree with them or not. But she does cherish her relative privacy, and so I'd be surprised if she has changed her mind.
 
Alright, but you wouldn't see the same treatment (let alone a worse treatment) doled out to Rice because Rice is nothing like Palin. I think we both understand the difference between them.

There may be many differences between the candidates but the Left remains the same. They will continue to attack any Republican candidate in the most simple and vile terms while ignoring the real issues of what's best for America's interests..
 
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