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Uganda newspaper names 200 'homos' after anti-gay law signed

PeteEU said:
Wow...... just wow.... that you actually believe this horse**** just shows the problem with social conservatism....

So it is fine that right wing social conservatism pushes their outdated views on everyone else, but when homosexuals demand the same rights as everyone else then they are the radicals? Guess you had the same view of black people and women right? Those damn liberals pushing their freedom loving equality views on everyone?
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There's a world of difference between exercising one's faith and forcing yourself into a relationship with an unwilling person. You're entirely free to believe and preach that religions are an outdated notion and that those who believe in religions and their teachings are mad as hatters, but somehow you find it objectionable that I should be able to exercise a freedom to choose who I want to associate with in life, somehow you believe that you have a better understanding of my human rights and that it is ethical for you to mandate that I associate with anyone who wants to associate with me, never mind my disagreement with that association.

Liberalism really must be some form of mental disorder, this thinking of yours is quite screwy.
 
VanceMack said:
The whole region is hard. There have been mass killings and tragic occurences for decades, in Uganda, their neighbors...all throughout the region.
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Idi Amin comes to mind...He killed John Brisker as well. Extra points if you remember him. Instant O...NO D.
 
Wiseone said:
You two realize its punishable by life in prison to be a homosexual in Uganda right? So its not really the same at all now is it?

I'm guess that like from CanadaJohn we'll all be in for a treat as Vance spends a few dozen pages trying to convince that it is still somehow the same. Go on.
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Isn't prison sort of a sanctuary or paradise for gay folks? No competition, horny straights looking for a warm place to put their junk, ya know, like that. ;)


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
Isn't prison sort of a sanctuary or paradise for gay folks? No competition, horny straights looking for a warm place to put their junk, ya know, like that. ;)


Tim-
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Not necessarily. Non-lifers have a vested interest in not committing crimes in prison punishable by life.
 
Hicup said:
Isn't prison sort of a sanctuary or paradise for gay folks? No competition, horny straights looking for a warm place to put their junk, ya know, like that. ;)
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Rape is so funny I know, and African prisons are known for their luxury and comfort, plus we know that gays just love sex so much that they'd have no problem forcefully taken out of their lives and removed from the families.
 
Hicup said:
Isn't prison sort of a sanctuary or paradise for gay folks? No competition, horny straights looking for a warm place to put their junk, ya know, like that. ;)


Tim-
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This is a pretty sick comment Tim, I expected better from you.
 
Top Cat said:
Idi Amin comes to mind...He killed John Brisker as well. Extra points if you remember him. Instant O...NO D.
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Amin was certainly brutal. And I have to admit that I didnt remember John Brisker. I looked him up and the wiki reference says he was actually invited by Amin (or was a merc) and that it is believed he was executed by those that ousted Amin. Either way...point is solid.
 
VanceMack said:
Amin was certainly brutal. And I have to admit that I didnt remember John Brisker. I looked him up and the wiki reference says he was actually invited by Amin (or was a merc) and that it is believed he was executed by those that ousted Amin. Either way...point is solid.
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I didn't know that it was the folks that buried Amin. Interesting stuff.
 
Wiseone said:
Rape is so funny I know, and African prisons are known for their luxury and comfort, plus we know that gays just love sex so much that they'd have no problem forcefully taken out of their lives and removed from the families.
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Sexual violence is a funny thing for some people.
 
RiverDad said:
There's a world of difference between exercising one's faith and forcing yourself into a relationship with an unwilling person. You're entirely free to believe and preach that religions are an outdated notion and that those who believe in religions and their teachings are mad as hatters, but somehow you find it objectionable that I should be able to exercise a freedom to choose who I want to associate with in life, somehow you believe that you have a better understanding of my human rights and that it is ethical for you to mandate that I associate with anyone who wants to associate with me, never mind my disagreement with that association.

Liberalism really must be some form of mental disorder, this thinking of yours is quite screwy.
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What makes you think your right to association is under attack, that you're being forced to associate with anybody?
 
sangha said:
I believe that the right wing experiences vicarious enjoyment in acts of hatred against those it finds politically or socially objectionable.

Just read the OP for an example.
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Y'know, I have to say, even many of us lefties enjoy schadenfreude. I think a bit of difference is that the wingers tend to enjoy when it's against those considerably more vulnerable and not harming anyone else, and us lefties enjoy when it's the powerful and corrupt that are trying to ruin the lives of ordinary, relatively helpless masses. Or so it seems to me. Anyway, perhaps schadenfreude is only a winger trait, if so, there must be a remnant of it in me from my younger days. I can assure you there are some individuals and groups that I would be gleefully dancing should I find that some group I was not in charge of or a part of decided to target with anything up to and including murder.
 
VanceMack said:
CCW Holders and their homes were painted as targets and many from the anti-gun side seemed to think that a 'good' thing. Now...I choose to believe that means that really they only had the best of intention and they really really really really cared about the CCW holder and their families. Therefore, this also must be done to ensure the community protect those 200 homosexuals.
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When the CCW names were published, was there a US law in effect that puts CCW holders in prison for life and makes it illegal not to discriminate them? If not then the comparison is bogus and fallacious attempt to deflect the discussions away from the outing of 200 innocent people and the evangelical right wing influences that brought that insidious law into being.

Do you think it could happen it here, Vance?


It wasn't that long ago, that it did.

Sodomy laws in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Moot said:
When the CCW names were published, was there a US law in effect that puts CCW holders in prison for life and makes it illegal not to discriminate them? If not then the comparison is bogus and fallacious attempt to deflect the discussions away from the outing of 200 innocent people and the evangelical right wing influences that brought that insidious law into being.

Do you think it could happen it here, Vance?


It wasn't that long ago, that it did.

Sodomy laws in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Where does the Uganda law require private discrimination?
 
Moot said:
When the CCW names were published, was there a US law in effect that puts CCW holders in prison for life and makes it illegal not to discriminate them? If not then the comparison is bogus and fallacious attempt to deflect the discussions away from the outing of 200 innocent people and the evangelical right wing influences that brought that insidious law into being.

Do you think it could happen it here, Vance?


It wasn't that long ago, that it did.

Sodomy laws in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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You equivocate over the outing of thousands of law abiding citizens who's 'crime' was following the law and living under the Constitution. Putting their names in the papers put them and their family at risk. Some people that that was a pretty ****ing neat idea. I wonder what your position was on that.
 
VanceMack said:
You equivocate over the outing of thousands of law abiding citizens who's 'crime' was following the law and living under the Constitution. Putting their names in the papers put them and their family at risk. Some people that that was a pretty ****ing neat idea. I wonder what your position was on that.
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It reminded of when the Free Republic posted their enemy list that resulted in the death of Nick Berg. Somebody must have thought that a pretty neat idea, too.


Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List (a/k/a FreeRepublic)

HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names
 
Paleocon said:
Where does the Uganda law require private discrimination?
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"...The law also makes it a crime to fail to report anyone who breaks the law, essentially ensuring that gays will need to live secret lives. The law even makes illegal the “promotion” and “recognition” of homosexual relations, including by any government entity or nongovernmental organization inside or outside Uganda. And for the first time, the law targets lesbians...."

Ugandan leader signs harsh anti-gay bill despite warning from Obama administration - The Washington Post


Interesting, Arizona's law makers get to share anti-Gay headlines with Uganda and Putin. Birds of feather.
 
Summerwind said:
Y'know, I have to say, even many of us lefties enjoy schadenfreude. I think a bit of difference is that the wingers tend to enjoy when it's against those considerably more vulnerable and not harming anyone else, and us lefties enjoy when it's the powerful and corrupt that are trying to ruin the lives of ordinary, relatively helpless masses. Or so it seems to me. Anyway, perhaps schadenfreude is only a winger trait, if so, there must be a remnant of it in me from my younger days. I can assure you there are some individuals and groups that I would be gleefully dancing should I find that some group I was not in charge of or a part of decided to target with anything up to and including murder.
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I have to admit to seeing the right wing lose. However, I wouldn't enjoy seeing them be victims of violence.
 
Moot said:
"...The law also makes it a crime to fail to report anyone who breaks the law, essentially ensuring that gays will need to live secret lives. The law even makes illegal the “promotion” and “recognition” of homosexual relations, including by any government entity or nongovernmental organization inside or outside Uganda. And for the first time, the law targets lesbians...."

Ugandan leader signs harsh anti-gay bill despite warning from Obama administration - The Washington Post


Interesting, Arizona's law makers get to share anti-Gay headlines with Uganda and Putin. Birds of feather.
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I've read the law. That is a lie. Cite the section of the law which imposes such a duty.
 
Top Cat said:
You think this is funny? Do you have any idea what you're laughing about?
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I think his sarcasm was because this is Uganda we are talking about and not Norway.

Get it?
 
Moot said:
When the CCW names were published, was there a US law in effect that puts CCW holders in prison for life and makes it illegal not to discriminate them? If not then the comparison is bogus and fallacious attempt to deflect the discussions away from the outing of 200 innocent people and the evangelical right wing influences that brought that insidious law into being.

Do you think it could happen it here, Vance?


It wasn't that long ago, that it did.

Sodomy laws in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Of course it's a bogus comparison. It's not even remotely in the same ballpark.
 
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