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Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real - And

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During a congressional hearing into the Internal Revenue Services’ admitted targeting of conservative groups prior to the 2012 election cycle, an attorney representing some of those groups severely chastised President Barack Obama for asserting during an interview with Fox News Channel host Bill O’Reilly that there was not a “smidgen” of corruption at that agency. After citing a number of items of evidence which support the claim that the IRS unfairly targeted conservative groups, attorney Jay Sekulow said that the IRS scandal goes “as high as it gets.”

Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real - And STILL GOING ON - Fox Nation



If only the administration could be half as brave as these women for speaking out....I listened to some of this hearing live yesterday as I made my way south toward home, and I gotta say, demo's display in that was reprehensible....
 
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Congress? Obama doesn't need no stinking congress. These IRS regulations are mere rules - not laws.

There was no corruption (not even a smidgen), or any abuse of IRS power (just ask MSNBC, or Obama) - there was simply confusion over the IRS 501c4 rules (that used to be called tax laws). The Obama solution is really quite simple - just change those "confusing" IRS rules. Since these IRS rules (regulations - formerly kniown as tax laws?) are no longer federal tax laws (those went away some time ago) they can be changed, by the very same federal executive agency that enforces them, to make whatever the current administration wants IRS to do to become the "law oif the land". ;)

GOP wants IRS to drop rule change, calling it politically motivated | TribLIVE
 
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Not a smidgeon of truth... from the president.
 
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If only the administration could be half as brave as these women for speaking out....I listened to some of this hearing live yesterday as I made my way south toward home, and I gotta say, demo's display in that was reprehensible....


yes...nothing braver than a "conservative activist" attacking the President and the administration. Worthy of a medal in my opinion.
 
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yes...nothing braver than a "conservative activist" attacking the
President and the administration. Worthy of a medal in my opinion.

After being subjected to Obama's Bullying via the FBI, OSHA and the IRS, confronting the party thats trying to justify those highly illegal and unethical actions takes allot of guts.

Seriously, dont you have a problem with whats being done to these Americans ? Or does your definition of corruption depend on the party thats being accused ?

You cant say this never happened because the IRS ADMITED it.

Private donor list were leaked to left wing activist groups and the FBI is recomending NO criminal charges ?
 
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If only the administration could be half as brave as these women for speaking out....I listened to some of this hearing live yesterday as I made my way south toward home, and I gotta say, demo's display in that was reprehensible....


A lawyer says their client was wronged. I'm shocked.
 
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After being subjected to Obama's Bullying via the FBI, OSHA and the IRS, confronting the party thats trying to justify those highly illegal and unethical actions takes allot of guts.

Seriously, dont you have a problem with whats being done to these Americans ? Or do you does your definition of corruption depend on the partys who's being accused ?

You cant say this never happened because the IRS ADMITED it.

Private donor list were leaked to left wing activist groups and the FBI is recomending NO criminal charges ?

What are you even talking about? Bullying? All political organizations that were applying as SOCIAL WELFARE organizations were getting scrutiny. They should.

These "scandals" get congressional investigations and scrutinized by the press and nothing is found. If you think Obama is that good at hiding stuff then you have an extremely high opinion of him.
 
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A lawyer says their client was wronged. I'm shocked.


The IRS " Apologized " for this back in 2012. Or have you forgotten ? When they were trying to orchestrate a way out by blaming a couple of " low level " IRS folks in Cinci...

Hell, Obama said he would get to the bottom of this. He lied apparently.

Imagine the profound implications that comes with a President using Fed agency's to deny Americans their Constitutional rights ......Wow.

Not just the IRS. The FBI ( DOJ ) and OSHA too

Thats why Liberals run to these threads in a wasted attempt to staunch the bleeding.

Its seriousky bad news
 
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What are you even talking about? Bullying? All political
organizations that were applying as SOCIAL WELFARE organizations were getting scrutiny. They should.

These "scandals" get congressional investigations and scrutinized by the press and nothing is found. If you think Obama is that good at hiding stuff then you have an extremely high opinion of him.

Bull.

Then WHY did the IRS APOLGIZE back in 2012 amd blame this on a couple of " low level " Cinci employeees ?

Did those Cinci people sik the additional Federal Agencies on that lady from Texas ?

Did those " low level " employees release private donor list to left wing activist groups ?

Your'e willing to justify just about anything to cover for your ideology aren't you ?
 
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Bull.

Then WHY did the IRS APOLGIZE back in 2012 amd blame this on a couple of " low level " Cinci employeees ?

Did those Cinci people sik the additional Federal Agencies on that lady from Texas ?

Did those " low level " employees release private donor list to left wing activist groups ?

Your'e willing to justify just about anything to cover for your ideology aren't you ?

Because at the time there was a list of conservative organizations that were supposedly "targeted". For some reason the fact that it wasn't targeting but was applied to groups on the left didn't come out until months later.

I'm not justifying anything. I'm asking for proof. Somehow higher ups in the administration ordered career bureaucrats (including and IRS commissioner that was appointed by Bush) and they did it...of course without any sort of email chain or trail or evidence. Yeah...ok...maybe in a make believe world where Democratic Presidents are ominous boogeymen but in the real world that's not a credible story.
 
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Because at the time there was a list of conservative organizations that were supposedly "targeted". For some reason the fact that it wasn't targeting but was applied to groups on the left didn't come out until months later.

I'm not justifying anything. I'm asking for proof. Somehow higher ups in the administration ordered career bureaucrats (including and IRS commissioner that was appointed by Bush) and they did it...of course without any sort of email chain or trail or evidence. Yeah...ok...maybe in a make believe world where Democratic Presidents are ominous boogeymen but in the real world that's not a credible story.

Well, isn't that convenient....You're asking for proof that the IRS refuses to give even the oversight committee investigating it....Wow....So I guess in your world all one has to do is refuse to give evidence, then you can say show me what you got, and dismiss it all because you refuse to cooperate in the first place....

We are truly in 'blotto world'
 
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If only the administration could be half as brave as these women for speaking out....I listened to some of this hearing live yesterday as I made my way south toward home, and I gotta say, demo's display in that was reprehensible...
.





When someone gets convicted and goes to prison, come back and tell us all about it.




Until that happens, I'll continue to ignore this bull****. :lamo
 
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When someone gets convicted and goes to prison, come back and tell us all about it.

Another turning a blind eye, because it is coming from an administration they support....Thanks for once again highlighting this shrub....We were beginning to wonder...:roll:
 
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Well, isn't that convenient....You're asking for proof that the IRS refuses to give even the oversight committee investigating it....Wow....So I guess in your world all one has to do is refuse to give evidence, then you can say show me what you got, and dismiss it all because you refuse to cooperate in the first place....

We are truly in 'blotto world'

Actually..you're in fantasy rightwing world with bad information. Kind of like you folks thought Romney would win in a landslide.
 
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When someone gets convicted and goes to prison, come back and tell us all about it.




Until that happens, I'll continue to ignore this bull****. :lamo

I do not know what really happened with the IRS, but I am pretty sure we will never know how innocent or guilty anyone was with the girl the administration appointed to do the investigation. Appointing an avid Obama supporter/donor to investigate certainly smells. That appointment has caused my trust level in this administration to drop considerably.
 
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Bullies calling bullies bullies.
Another fair and balanced House "monkey court" hearing.
No solution is desired by GOP/FOX, as they want to run this up Obama's ass until he's gone .
Another turning a blind eye, because it is coming from an administration they support....Thanks for once again highlighting this shrub....We were beginning to wonder...:roll:
 
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Appointing an avid Obama supporter/donor to investigate certainly smells.

I didn't know this repetitious mantra was coming.
I better come up with my lame response to it and then hit repeat .
 
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Actually..you're in fantasy rightwing world with bad information. Kind of like you folks thought Romney would win in a landslide.

He probably would have won if it weren't for progressive malfeasance like sicking the IRS on opponents during an election cycle.

For Mitt Romney, the 2012 election was held about a year too early.
Romney would hold a slight lead on President Obama if the 2012 election were replayed today, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
The poll of registered voters shows Romney at 49 percent and Obama at 45 percent in the rematch, a mirror image of Romney's four-point (51-47) popular-vote loss in 2012.

President Romney? Yes, if the election were held today
 
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Bullies calling bullies bullies.
Another fair and balanced House "monkey court" hearing.
No solution is desired by GOP/FOX, as they want to run this up Obama's ass until he's gone .

Damned right, and we wouldn't have it if he weren't such a corrupt liar now would we....:lamo
 
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When someone gets convicted and goes to
prison, come back and tell us all about it.





Until that happens, I'll continue to ignore this bull****. :lamo

And the Obama administration will continue to ignore the House comittees request for pertinant documents.

When did reasonable intelligent people start equating innocence to someone first apologizing for the IRSs actions and then taking the fifth whrn asked about it under oath ?
 
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Actually..you're in fantasy rightwing world with bad information.
Kind of like you folks thought Romney would win in a landslide.

No, a fantasy wonderland is ignoring the fact that Lois Lerner first apologize and then took tthe Fifth under oath so as " not to incriminate herself ".

Your best argument ( justification ) is to claim the IRS was being pro-active with their apology for actions that could have been percieved as targeting.

LOL !! Bull.

Where was their apology in 2009, 2010 and 2011 ??

You know, for a percieved taregting of Conservative groups ?

And did the low level Cinci employees sik the ATF and OSHA on that lady from Texas ? Did they release the private donor information ?
 
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He probably would have won if it weren't for progressive malfeasance like sicking the IRS on opponents during an election cycle.

Yeah...because there was no avenue open for conservatives to get their message out beyond claiming they are a social welfare group....

Maybe there would of been more conservative dark money in the election but hey...cry me a river...everyone that currently has that status should lose it and no political group should have the status in the first place.
 
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No, a fantasy wonderland is ignoring the fact that Lois Lerner first apologize and then took tthe Fifth under oath so as " not to incriminate herself ".

Of course....any sane person would. It was a witch hunt like every "scandal" has turned out being. The Republicans cast a huge net to try and find anything and will attack anyone if they can remotely use it to damage the President. Also..are you saying she can't plead the 5th? You are aware that there were a couple of people in the Bush administration that pled the 5th because they believed minds were already made up by Congress...

Your best argument ( justification ) is to claim the IRS was being pro-active with their apology for actions that could have been percieved as targeting.

LOL !! Bull.

Where was their apology in 2009, 2010 and 2011 ??

You know, for a percieved taregting of Conservative groups ?
I'm glad you used perceived. Testimony from actual hearings had the individual (a Republican voter mind you) say that he ordered the scrutiny on groups that were political seeking social welfare status. He said it was never ordered by anyone from up top and he wasn't targeting specific organizations...that they just received a flood of applications that were Tea Party groups seeking social welfare status.

Of course...the Congressional comittee sealed the interview at the time so were were operating on what they told us. After the real story came out they knew from the get go no one was being targeted...but hey...why destroy your own narrative with facts?

And did the low level Cinci employees sik the ATF and OSHA on that lady from Texas ? Did they release the private donor information ?
I don't know did they? you understand when something happens it isn't by default targeting or an order by the administration right? That seems to be the problem with conservatives....everything needs to be tied back to the President and everything needs to be a result of "Chicago Politics" as conservatives like to say.
 
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Yeah...because there was no avenue open for conservatives to get their message out beyond claiming they are a social welfare group....

IMO, it is in the 'social welfare' to educate people on fair voting practices, also on the issues of the day.

Maybe there would of been more conservative dark money in the election but hey...cry me a river...everyone that currently has that status should lose it and no political group should have the status in the first place.

Oh, ok...So everyone looses the tax exempt status eh? I'll take you at your word..........For now.
 
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Of course....any sane person would. It was a witch hunt like every "scandal" has turned out being. The Republicans cast a huge net to try and find anything and will attack anyone if they can remotely use it to damage the President. Also..are you saying she can't plead the 5th? You are aware that there were a couple of people in the Bush administration that pled the 5th because they believed minds were already made up by Congress...


I'm glad you used perceived. Testimony from actual hearings had the individual (a Republican voter mind you) say that he ordered the scrutiny on groups that were political seeking social welfare status. He said it was never ordered by anyone from up top and he wasn't targeting specific organizations...that they just received a flood of applications that were Tea Party groups seeking social welfare status.

Of course...the Congressional comittee sealed the interview at the time so were were operating on what they told us. After the real story came out they knew from the get go no one was being targeted...but hey...why destroy your own narrative with facts?


I don't know did they? you understand when something happens it isn't by default targeting or an order by the administration right? That seems to be the problem with conservatives....everything needs to be tied back to the President and everything needs to be a result of "Chicago Politics" as conservatives like to say.

Where there is smoke there is fire....:shrug:
 
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