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Video showing cop forcibly cutting woman's hair weave makes waves

Mason66 said:
That is a smaller assumption tan there was a policy that allowed this when you don't know.

I am sure this was not the first woman to come in with a weave. Do you have any information that this happened to other women as well?
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Pointing to an absence of data, one way or the other, doesn't establish something as true or false.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Pointing to an absence of data, one way or the other, doesn't establish something as true or false.
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Absence of data?

She was suspended and fired over this incident.

Do you think her union would have something to say if it was an unjust firing?
 
Mason66 said:
Absence of data?
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You pointed to the fact we never heard such complaints before, assuming that such actions were never taken in the past. This is faulty because it could simply be no such incident generated controversy or came to the media's attention

Do you think her union would have something to say if it was an unjust firing?
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her union is challenging it.
 
Mason66 said:
If what you say is true, and there is a policy that the officer was following, she wouldn't have been suspended nor fired.
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If there was such a policy - there'd also be examples of naturally long haired women having their hair forcibly removed in similar situations. Strangely, I don't believe there are examples of routine scalping by the police.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
If there was such a policy - there'd also be examples of naturally long haired women having their hair forcibly removed in similar
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a weave=/= long hair
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Someday, you might clearly explain the relevance of that I hope.
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Sure, one is artificial hair extensions and the other is natural growth. See, clear distinction
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Sure, one is artificial hair extensions and the other is natural growth. See, clear distinction
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Why would there be a distinction of the reason for removal was to not use it as a weapon?

The weave was attatched to her head much like natural hair is.

If a weave is long enough to be used as a weapon, then natural long hair can also be used as a weapon.

It just doesn't make sense to remove body parts if they can be used as a weapon. Arms can be used as weapons as well.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
This assumes that an elected or politically appointed official wouldn't throw someone under the bus to save their own career.
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Interesting that you automatically support the cop, even though she has been fired for improper conduct. Apparently there is nothing that would cause you to call into question the actions of any cop, even if their superiors think they were wrong.
 
Mason66 said:
Why would there be a distinction of the reason for removal was to not use it as a weapon?

The weave was attatched to her head much like natural hair is.

If a weave is long enough to be used as a weapon, then natural long hair can also be used as a weapon.

It just doesn't make sense to remove body parts if they can be used as a weapon. Arms can be used as weapons as well.
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the difference is that it isn't natural growth. it doesn't matter how it's attached.
 
Wiggen said:
Interesting that you automatically support the cop, even though she has been fired for improper conduct. Apparently there is nothing that would cause you to call into question the actions of any cop, even if their superiors think they were wrong.
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1) I think the policy is silly, but from the perspective of how such matters are treated in a prison environment it makes sense.

2) yeah, I watched the video and saw nothing I would associate with abuse from a police officer (if such is actual policy). So why wouldn't I side with the cop?

3) No, I question lots of cops. But I'm not hysterical about it

4) Yeah, and that could be a case with an appointed official trying to save his ass. The same reasoning is likely what initiated them dropping the charges for her breaking up that motel room
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
1) I think the policy is silly, but from the perspective of how such matters are treated in a prison environment it makes sense.

2) yeah, I watched the video and saw nothing I would associate with abuse from a police officer (if such is actual policy). So why wouldn't I side with the cop?

3) No, I question lots of cops. But I'm not hysterical about it

4) Yeah, and that could be a case with an appointed official trying to save his ass. The same reasoning is likely what initiated them dropping the charges for her breaking up that motel room
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I hope you are not saying that because she was arrested for breaking up a hotel room, that she actually did it.

You are making alot of assumptions here like she did what she was accused of and the charges were dropped because of this incident, and not that she didn't do anything wrong in the first place.

Also if you do not know the difference between prison and jail, please go research it.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
a weave=/= long hair
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Dr. Chuckles said:
in a prison environment almost anything can be considered a weapon, even shoe laces and a tooth brush
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These contradictions within the same thread is why I don't bother to reply your posts anymore.

If weave is not the same as long hair but then "anything can be considered a weapon, even shoe laces etc" then why don't the police cut every arrest suspect's hair that has long hair? That was the point I was making when you thought it clever to reply that long hair is not the same as a weave.

Please don't bother expecting any further reply beyond a cursory "thank you for you contribution" from me again.
 
Mason66 said:
I hope you are not saying that because she was arrested for breaking up a hotel room, that she actually did it.
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She doesn't even deny doing it

You are making alot of assumptions here like she did what she was accused of and the charges were dropped because of this incident, and not that she didn't do anything wrong in the first place.
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She hasn't even denied busting up the hotel room. She claims she woke up and freaked out because she was drugged and kidnapped, or something equally silly

Also if you do not know the difference between prison and jail, please go research it.
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and if you can't manage to read with precision I would probably hold off on criticizing someone: I wrote "prison environment. And yes, a jail would be considered a "prison environment". because a prison environment speaks to how the facility is structured, not the reason behind why the individual is there
 
Infinite Chaos said:
These contradictions within the same thread is why I don't bother to reply your posts anymore.
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There is no contradiction.

If weave is not the same as long hair but then "anything can be considered a weapon, even shoe laces etc" then why don't the police cut every arrest suspect's hair that has long hair?
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Because a weave isn't the same as long hair. A weave is artificial hair. Are you daft to the perceived difference one might find in society and the courts to the removal of property and the infringement of one's own body?

But beyond that some prisons do impose rules on hair length and style, for health and safety reasons, and even concerns that certain hairstyles are associated with gangs
 
Crosscheck said:
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Finally a Police Commissioner has came out and called a stop to this BS that has been running rampantly across the USA with rogue cops. Support your local police as they deal with people many wouldn't want to but they must be better than the criminal they are arresting.
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What is it with people forcibly cutting other peoples hair?

Just the other day I read an article about a CTA (Chicago Transit Authority) employee who was forcibly held down beyond his will while his fellow co workers cut his dreadlocks off.....

I also read a story not to long back where a teacher cut the hair of one of her students a "punishment."

Of course then you had that Amish "beard cutting" a few years back.
 
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