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Helping the NSA could become a crime in Washington State

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Providing water and electricity to the National Security Agency in Washington state could soon mean a year of jail time.

In response to national security leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about the agency, two Washington state lawmakers introduced a bill on Wednesday aimed at denying any help to federal agencies engaging in warrantless electronic surveillance.

Called the “Creating the Fourth Amendment protection act,” the bill would make providing any type of assistance — including “material support,” state funds, and services — a misdemeanor for corporations or person acting as state contractors, and a gross misdemeanor for state employees.

Violating the act could land a state employee up to a year in county jail with a $5,000 fine. In addition, they would lose their job and be barred from public service.

State contractors caught violating the act could face up to 90 days in jail with a $1,000 fine and forever lose the state’s business.

Helping the NSA could become a crime in Washington state « Watchdog.org


Obviously this is far from law, but interesting.
 
Montecresto said:
Providing water and electricity to the National Security Agency in Washington state could soon mean a year of jail time.

In response to national security leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about the agency, two Washington state lawmakers introduced a bill on Wednesday aimed at denying any help to federal agencies engaging in warrantless electronic surveillance.

Called the “Creating the Fourth Amendment protection act,” the bill would make providing any type of assistance — including “material support,” state funds, and services — a misdemeanor for corporations or person acting as state contractors, and a gross misdemeanor for state employees.

Violating the act could land a state employee up to a year in county jail with a $5,000 fine. In addition, they would lose their job and be barred from public service.

State contractors caught violating the act could face up to 90 days in jail with a $1,000 fine and forever lose the state’s business.

Helping the NSA could become a crime in Washington state « Watchdog.org


Obviously this is far from law, but interesting.
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Obviously that bill would never pass but it's endearing to note that some people still live in a fantasy world full of rainbows and dreams. Somebody wasted a lot of time for nothing
 
Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

The premise is cute though. Gold star for the laugh, Washington.
 
serato said:
Obviously that bill would never pass but it's endearing to note that some people still live in a fantasy world full of rainbows and dreams. Somebody wasted a lot of time for nothing
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As noted in the op. however civil rights concerns have little to do with dreams and rainbows.
 
Montecresto said:
As noted in the op. however civil rights concerns have little to do with dreams and rainbows.
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Everybody agrees that our civil liberties are being violated and it's far worse than people think. The FBI has begun sending letters to local law enforcement to condition them to begin viewing conspiracy theorist as terrorist. I've seen the letter and have a copy of it, so it exist. I'm now labeled a terrorist; fantastic!


My issue with the OP is that their approach is wrong, but noble. I have a better solution that involves a peaceful and civilized, democratic revolution. History has proven that when excessive power is taken by a government, it never relinguishes that power back to the people voluntarily. The people must take back the power by force, but we are not savages. Americans are better than that and a forceful solution isn't necessary. We have elections comming soon and this is our revolution. Stop voting for Republicans and Democrates because they are just thugs in a gang. We need a new independent party that doesn't do the bidding for special interest. An Independent President who has the welfare of the people at heart is the only way our liberties and deficit will be restored and fixed. There is no other solution. The government will not prosecute itself .
 
serato said:
Everybody agrees that our civil liberties are being violated and it's far worse than people think. The FBI has begun sending letters to local law enforcement to condition them to begin viewing conspiracy theorist as terrorist. I've seen the letter and have a copy of it, so it exist. I'm now labeled a terrorist; fantastic!


My issue with the OP is that their approach is wrong, but noble. I have a better solution that involves a peaceful and civilized, democratic revolution. History has proven that when excessive power is taken by a government, it never relinguishes that power back to the people voluntarily. The people must take back the power by force, but we are not savages. Americans are better than that and a forceful solution isn't necessary. We have elections comming soon and this is our revolution. Stop voting for Republicans and Democrates because they are just thugs in a gang. We need a new independent party that doesn't do the bidding for special interest. An Independent President who has the welfare of the people at heart is the only way our liberties and deficit will be restored and fixed. There is no other solution. The government will not prosecute itself .
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I couldn't agree with you more on that. The number of independents is growing we just need a more collective realisation that both parties are contributing to these problems and it IS time to establish a legitimate third party and challenge the two dinosaurs with a wake up call. I'd sure like to see that letter in your possession.
 
Gipper said:
Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

The premise is cute though. Gold star for the laugh, Washington.
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It seems like it could be a nice little way to boot bad eggs out earlier. Orrrr used by people that are switching jobs for whatever reason anyways as a backdoor for escape for betraying trust.

But prolly mostly loud barking?
 
Montecresto said:
Providing water and electricity to the National Security Agency in Washington state could soon mean a year of jail time.

In response to national security leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about the agency, two Washington state lawmakers introduced a bill on Wednesday aimed at denying any help to federal agencies engaging in warrantless electronic surveillance.

Called the “Creating the Fourth Amendment protection act,” the bill would make providing any type of assistance — including “material support,” state funds, and services — a misdemeanor for corporations or person acting as state contractors, and a gross misdemeanor for state employees.

Violating the act could land a state employee up to a year in county jail with a $5,000 fine. In addition, they would lose their job and be barred from public service.

State contractors caught violating the act could face up to 90 days in jail with a $1,000 fine and forever lose the state’s business.

Helping the NSA could become a crime in Washington state « Watchdog.org


Obviously this is far from law, but interesting.
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I like the idea of it. But I think ISPs, phone companies and other privately owned companies should be banned from storing data and get prison time should they aid the NSA and other spy program. And it should be a felony crime not a misdemeanor crime.
 
Montecresto said:
Providing water and electricity to the National Security Agency in Washington state could soon mean a year of jail time.

In response to national security leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about the agency, two Washington state lawmakers introduced a bill on Wednesday aimed at denying any help to federal agencies engaging in warrantless electronic surveillance.

Called the “Creating the Fourth Amendment protection act,” the bill would make providing any type of assistance — including “material support,” state funds, and services — a misdemeanor for corporations or person acting as state contractors, and a gross misdemeanor for state employees.

Violating the act could land a state employee up to a year in county jail with a $5,000 fine. In addition, they would lose their job and be barred from public service.

State contractors caught violating the act could face up to 90 days in jail with a $1,000 fine and forever lose the state’s business.

Helping the NSA could become a crime in Washington state « Watchdog.org


Obviously this is far from law, but interesting.
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I have to imagine there are a whole battery of reasons such a measure wouldn't be legal.
 
Montecresto said:
Providing water and electricity to the National Security Agency in Washington state could soon mean a year of jail time.

In response to national security leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about the agency, two Washington state lawmakers introduced a bill on Wednesday aimed at denying any help to federal agencies engaging in warrantless electronic surveillance.

Called the “Creating the Fourth Amendment protection act,” the bill would make providing any type of assistance — including “material support,” state funds, and services — a misdemeanor for corporations or person acting as state contractors, and a gross misdemeanor for state employees.

Violating the act could land a state employee up to a year in county jail with a $5,000 fine. In addition, they would lose their job and be barred from public service.

State contractors caught violating the act could face up to 90 days in jail with a $1,000 fine and forever lose the state’s business.

Helping the NSA could become a crime in Washington state « Watchdog.org


Obviously this is far from law, but interesting.
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The NSA should be sent to GITMO for practicing terrorism.
 
Montecresto said:
As noted in the op. however civil rights concerns have little to do with dreams and rainbows.
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To protect peoples's civil rights, someone wants to violate peoples's civil rights? Whoever thought stupid crap up needs to be run out of town on on a rail.
 
serato said:
Everybody agrees that our civil liberties are being violated and it's far worse than people think. The FBI has begun sending letters to local law enforcement to condition them to begin viewing conspiracy theorist as terrorist. I've seen the letter and have a copy of it, so it exist. I'm now labeled a terrorist; fantastic!
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Why would the government see conspiracy theorists as a threat? Hmm...
 
Montecresto said:
Providing water and electricity to the National Security Agency in Washington state could soon mean a year of jail time.

In response to national security leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about the agency, two Washington state lawmakers introduced a bill on Wednesday aimed at denying any help to federal agencies engaging in warrantless electronic surveillance.

Called the “Creating the Fourth Amendment protection act,” the bill would make providing any type of assistance — including “material support,” state funds, and services — a misdemeanor for corporations or person acting as state contractors, and a gross misdemeanor for state employees.

Violating the act could land a state employee up to a year in county jail with a $5,000 fine. In addition, they would lose their job and be barred from public service.

State contractors caught violating the act could face up to 90 days in jail with a $1,000 fine and forever lose the state’s business.

Helping the NSA could become a crime in Washington state « Watchdog.org


Obviously this is far from law, but interesting.
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It won't pass but the water cooler discussions it'll create and is creating, media coversge, etc. is steering public sentiment in way way to demand citizen privacy. Probably the objective of the bill's authors and not the law itself ever being passed.
 
Gipper said:
Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

The premise is cute though. Gold star for the laugh, Washington.
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True, but still, **** the NSA.
 
Smeagol said:
It won't pass but the water cooler discussions it'll create and is creating, media coversge, etc. is steering public sentiment in way way to demand citizen privacy. Probably the objective of the bill's authors and not the law itself ever being passed.
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Exactly the point, could even be their strategy.
 
Anomalism said:
Why would the government see conspiracy theorists as a threat? Hmm...
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Not all conspiracy theorist are deemed a threat, as most are saddled with cavilling thoughts that think in terms of checkers, rather than the considerations and sacrifice needed for victory in chess. It's the cagnisant power and inveterate pen of the OTHER to whom attention is taken by the insanity of Sion. To know the who, what and hidden mystery of this quote, makes you a candidate to become T.I (targeted individual).

" Who and what is in a position to overthrow an invisible force? And this is precisely what our force is. Gentile masonry blindly serves as a screen for us and our forces, even its very abiding place, remains for the whole people an unknown mystery." - written by an elder of Sion (1700's) The Prodicols of the Wise Men of Zion

Every word of this book has turned to reality, made possible by the bridled thoughts of Masonry that do their bidding and when needed no more, they too...will be disposable. Wake-up! Mass hysteria is on the horizon, but don't expect the justice of polity to sound the siren. The best advice is always given from the grave. If you've not been assasinated or in a plane crash or car collision that magically explodes on contact, then it's likely your words mean little. Wake-up! Wake-up! Assasination is legal now, did you know that?
 
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