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Hillary hasn't thrown her hat in the ring for prez. She has not said whether she's running or not. Stop lying.
Do any of you leftist ideologues have any evidence that Christie was involved... AT ALL????
Do you have any evidence that he wasn't?
Do I personally think he was involved? I dunno. But while it's far too early in the process to convict him, it's also far too early to exonerate him. At best (for him), he's guilty of not knowing what his immediate subordinates were up to, which calls his management skills into question. It's not like this was some low-level bureaucrat who caused the lane closures; it was a pretty high-ranking aide.
Right! You be sure and remind us if she doesn't run. M'kay?
She may very well run; I'd put her chances of it very high. But you keep saying she's "thrown her hat in the ring," which is not true.
There are enough people that believe she'll run to say she's thrown her hat in the ring. Somebody knows something.
Do any of you leftist ideologues have any evidence that Christie was involved... AT ALL????
mabye this was a bridge too far for christie
Of course I don't. I didn't know you considered yourself a leftist ideologue, but good to know.Do you have any evidence that he wasn't?
At this point, only those that were involved (the ones on the emails we've seen, and Christie himself) know. I damn sure don't, and prefer to use the standard of our legal system of innocent until proven guilty.Do I personally think he was involved? I dunno.
Exonerate him? Hell, I'm having a hard time living up to my own standard stated above of considering him innocent until proven guilty.But while it's far too early in the process to convict him, it's also far too early to exonerate him.
At best (for him), he's guilty of not knowing what his immediate subordinates were up to, which calls his management skills into question. It's not like this was some low-level bureaucrat who caused the lane closures; it was a pretty high-ranking aide.
At this point, I think whether or not he was involved is almost moot. There is greater damage done to his image as a bi-partisan leader who is "above politics" as his staff was most certainly involved in very petty politics. There are two very damning aspects to this that stand today and stand whether he had direct knowledge or not. First, his reputation as a bit of bully is affirmed, if not by him, but his management culture that could allow such to happen. Second, his management ability is now at issue as clearly he has operated since Sept with a degree of indifference (and that is being generous) which seemingly puts him either in the category of "he knew" or "he did not want to know" Certainly, we have not witnessed "this is unacceptable and I am getting to the bottom of it" until the smoking gun email was uncovered last week. In either case, this indifference is pretty damning indictment of his management abilities.
Though I think its a bit premature to speculate as to whether this knocks him out of the race, one of his selling points, the fact that he "reaches across the aisle with the spirit of compromise, has been compromised. His image, as it stands today, has been greatly tarnished.
I agree, other than I'm not sure if his image has been "greatly tarnished." Obama has had the same thing happen to him a number of times with him using the same excuse and he was still re-elected.
There's no getting around his reputation as a tough guy simply by his demeanor; a NJ guy of guys. As far as a "bully"... well, I see him as a hard nosed yankee, like most of them I've ever dealt with, and I don't find that persona pleasing. But he has been able to reach across the isle a number of times and has, or had, supporters from both sides of that isle. Politics is a contact sport. Obama has shown us that as well as Christie.
I have no idea how this will all flush out. Only time will tell.
His arms aren't long enough.I just had a horrible thought
What if the investigation turns up graphic evidence that Gov Chunk Chunkie has been sexting nude selfies?
I would beg to differ: 2016 poll: Hillary Clinton ahead of Chris Christie - Lucy McCalmont - POLITICO.comNo damage. eace