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Gates’ tell-all rattles White House, Congress – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

There is an interesting quote from him in the middle of this.

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According to the New York Times account, Gates writes, "[Obama] eventually lost faith in the troop increase he ordered in Afghanistan, his doubts fed by top White House civilian advisers opposed to the strategy, who continually brought him negative news reports suggesting it was failing."

So it looks like bias in the media doesn't just come to us but goes to the loser in charge too.
 
I thought it would be Bill Gates... other Gates' don't matter that much because it most likely is political motivated speech.
 
In a new memoir, former defense secretary Robert Gates unleashes harsh judgments about President Obama’s leadership and his commitment to the Afghanistan war, writing that by early 2010 he had concluded the president “doesn’t believe in his own strategy, and doesn’t consider the war to be his. For him, it’s all about getting out.”

Leveling one of the more serious charges that a defense secretary could make against a commander in chief sending forces into combat, Gates asserts that Obama had more than doubts about the course he had charted in Afghanistan. The president was “skeptical if not outright convinced it would fail,” Gates writes in “Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary at War.”
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Robert Gates, former defense secretary, offers harsh critique of Obama’s leadership in ‘Duty’ - The Washington Post

Obam has no core ideas, just wings it. Then surges it, and withdrawls it, and then wants to "transition it" with bases, but not permanent...(etc)
 
According to what I saw this morning on the news Gates drops the hammer on Obama big time. Well done RG.
 
Well why doesn't Obama just instruct the media to tell it his way? I mean, since they're just his propaganda arm and what not...
 
rocket88 said:
Well why doesn't Obama just instruct the media to tell it his way? I mean, since they're just his propaganda arm and what not...
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It is interesting how the President's political enemies can so easily switch from saying the national news media is nothing more than the "propaganda arm" of the Administration and the Dems - never to be believed - but as soon as a story comes out that is the least bit negative about the President, they believe every word. And then the usual suspects amplify the noise with selective quotes and 'analysis'
 
In a new memoir of his time as secretary of defense in the Obama administration, Gates writes:

“Hillary told the president that her opposition to the [2007] surge in Iraq had been political because she was facing him in the Iowa primary. . . . The president conceded vaguely that opposition to the Iraq surge had been political. To hear the two of them making these admissions, and in front of me, was as surprising as it was dismaying.”

Oomph. Just to jog your memory, Clinton announced that she opposed the Iraq surge being pushed by President George W. Bush in the days leading up to the announcement of her presidential bid.
She instead proposed a freeze in troop levels in the country and advocated for a troop increase in Afghanistan.
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How Bob Gates’s memoir could haunt Hillary in 2016

lying warmongers, both of these 2 opprtunists put politics ahead of so called "opposition" to the Iraqi surge.
The war should never have been started, but the surge ( i supported) as a last ditch effort to stabilze the country.
It should have been a no-brainer to support it. Had to at least try to clean up our mess.

Looking back Biden's idea of partition was prolly the best idea, once we did fracture Iraq.
The place is a gawd awful mess, al_Malaki is a stooge (etc)

Either way to oppose war policy by political advantage shows the schemers Hillary and Obama both are.
Screw them both
 
Somerville said:
It is interesting how the President's political enemies can so easily switch from saying the national news media is nothing more than the "propaganda arm" of the Administration and the Dems - never to be believed - but as soon as a story comes out that is the least bit negative about the President, they believe every word. And then the usual suspects amplify the noise with selective quotes and 'analysis'
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Gates's book would be a first person source, as opposed to the news media coverage of the administration.

There is a difference here that you seemed to have glossed over in your false equating.
 
annata said:
How Bob Gates’s memoir could haunt Hillary in 2016

lying warmongers, both of these 2 opprtunists put politics ahead of so called "opposition" to the Iraqi surge.
The war should never have been started, but the surge ( i supported) as a last ditch effort to stabilze the country.
It should have been a no-brainer to support it. Had to at least try to clean up our mess.

Looking back Biden's idea of partition was prolly the best idea, once we did fracture Iraq.
The place is a gawd awful mess, al_Malaki is a stooge (etc)

Either way to oppose war policy by political advantage shows the schemers Hillary and Obama both are.
Screw them both
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Somerville said:
It is interesting how the President's political enemies can so easily switch from saying the national news media is nothing more than the "propaganda arm" of the Administration and the Dems - never to be believed - but as soon as a story comes out that is the least bit negative about the President, they believe every word. And then the usual suspects amplify the noise with selective quotes and 'analysis'
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Here are a couple more quotes from Gates' book
in private, members of Congress could be reasonable. "But when they went into an open hearing, and the little red light went on atop a television camera, it had the effect of a full moon on a werewolf."
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Gates calls the president's decision to order Navy SEALs to raid a house in Pakistan believed to be the hiding place of Osama bin Laden "one of the most courageous decisions I had ever witnessed in the White House."
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"I never doubted Obama's support for the troops, only his support for their mission," Gates writes in the book, "Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary at War,"
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In his final chapter, Mr. Gates makes clear his verdict on the president’s overall Afghan strategy: “I believe Obama was right in each of these decisions.”
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Now we can wait and see if the President's enemies will ever note that last statement of former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.
 
Robert Gates' book, from the two, or three snippets I've seen so far confirms what an America-hatin piece of **** Obama really is.
 
Somerville said:
It is interesting how the President's political enemies can so easily switch from saying the national news media is nothing more than the "propaganda arm" of the Administration and the Dems - never to be believed - but as soon as a story comes out that is the least bit negative about the President, they believe every word. And then the usual suspects amplify the noise with selective quotes and 'analysis'
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It would be interesting if you could name one "negative" story about Obama that was initiated by the "national news media" other than FOX. Seems to me, and I'm admittedly biased, the "national news media" is dragged kicking and screaming into covering anything negative about Obama, usually because it's pushed by FOX news or some conservative blog and can't be ignored or discounted.
 
CanadaJohn said:
It would be interesting if you could name one "negative" story about Obama that was initiated by the "national news media" other than FOX. Seems to me, and I'm admittedly biased, the "national news media" is dragged kicking and screaming into covering anything negative about Obama, usually because it's pushed by FOX news or some conservative blog and can't be ignored or discounted.
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The story that is the subject of this thread: The first articles came from the Washington Post, New York Times and Wall Street Journal.
 
Somerville said:
The story that is the subject of this thread: The first articles came from the Washington Post, New York Times and Wall Street Journal.
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Sorry, regurgitating what someone else wrote is not "initiating" a story.
 
apdst said:
Robert Gates' book, from the two, or three snippets I've seen so far confirms what an America-hatin piece of **** Obama really is.
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Seems like you are only reading the "snippets" you agree with

Gates calls the president's decision to order Navy SEALs to raid a house in Pakistan believed to be the hiding place of Osama bin Laden "one of the most courageous decisions I had ever witnessed in the White House."

"I never doubted Obama's support for the troops, only his support for their mission," Gates writes in the book, "Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary at War,"

In his final chapter, Mr. Gates makes clear his verdict on the president’s overall Afghan strategy: “I believe Obama was right in each of these decisions.”
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Somerville said:
It is interesting how the President's political enemies can so easily switch from saying the national news media is nothing more than the "propaganda arm" of the Administration and the Dems - never to be believed - but as soon as a story comes out that is the least bit negative about the President, they believe every word. And then the usual suspects amplify the noise with selective quotes and 'analysis'
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Right. This is the perennial problem with partisans. All partisans, died in the wool of their party, no objectivity. They probably won't be acknowledging the praise RG has for Obama, little as it is, his being a republican and all. Also, if all factors were reversed, Gates was a retired SecDef and liberal democrat, the president was a conservative republican, still in office and still involved in the A-Stan war and the liberal criticised him, exposed his hatred (which shows weakness in the coalition) for Kharzi, they would be screaming about how he was damaging the effort, aiding the enemy and jeopardising the troops. But real partisans, never see this.
 
Somerville said:
Here are a couple more quotes from Gates' book








Now we can wait and see if the President's enemies will ever note that last statement of former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.
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Don't hold your breath on that one.
 
apdst said:
Robert Gates' book, from the two, or three snippets I've seen so far confirms what an America-hatin piece of **** Obama really is.
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Can you post for us the snippet where Gates says that?
 
CalGun said:
Gates’ tell-all rattles White House, Congress – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

There is an interesting quote from him in the middle of this.

"
According to the New York Times account, Gates writes, "[Obama] eventually lost faith in the troop increase he ordered in Afghanistan, his doubts fed by top White House civilian advisers opposed to the strategy, who continually brought him negative news reports suggesting it was failing."

So it looks like bias in the media doesn't just come to us but goes to the loser in charge too.
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The bias is especially powerful when used against those with no core beliefs of their own.:peace
 
Is there really people who have no core beliefs?
 
Somerville said:
Seems like you are only reading the "snippets" you agree with
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Even a blind hog finds an acorn, from time to time.

However, there's something seriously wrong when a CIC sends troops onto the battlefield, using a strategy that he doesn't believe will be successful; especially when it's HIS strategy.
 
apdst said:
Even a blind hog finds an acorn, from time to time.

However, there's something seriously wrong when a CIC sends troops onto the battlefield, using a strategy that he doesn't believe will be successful; especially when it's HIS strategy.
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Evidently you don't read those words that contradict your deeply held beliefs, here the words are again - a bit larger this time

In his final chapter, Mr. Gates makes clear his verdict on the president’s overall Afghan strategy: “I believe Obama was right in each of these decisions.”
 
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