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‘Anonymous’ hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascist me

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Hey man.

First of all south Africa isn't communist, you repeating that lie changes nothing.

Second of all I wasn't condoning the actions of the Hackers, to a certain extent it's a bit cowardly "ha ha I ****ed up your website na na na na na".

But what they did doesn't amount to suppression of free speech.

It amounts to Vandalism.

suppression of free speech is what would happen if the government went in and shut it down completely and forever.

You could have said something like

"Those guys are assholes, but their website shouldn't be vandalized cause they're entitled to their speech".

But you don't seem to have a problem with them at all... considering you use white supremacists for information regarding slavery this is hardly surprising.

And I wasn't fefending white supremacists!!!...man!!!

AND, I don't have to qualify a damn thing to you, or anybody else!!! I don't have to explain myself to you!!! Who in the hell do you think you are?!?

I also used information from a black history professor at Harvard, but of course you missed that!!!
 
Re: ‘Anonymous’ hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

Hey man.

First of all south Africa isn't communist, you repeating that lie changes nothing.

Second of all I wasn't condoning the actions of the Hackers, to a certain extent it's a bit cowardly "ha ha I ****ed up your website na na na na na".

But what they did doesn't amount to suppression of free speech.

It amounts to Vandalism.

suppression of free speech is what would happen if the government went in and shut it down completely and forever.

You could have said something like

"Those guys are assholes, but their website shouldn't be vandalized cause they're entitled to their speech".

But you don't seem to have a problem with them at all... considering you use white supremacists for information regarding slavery this is hardly surprising.

You're not condoning the hacking and I believe that but maybe apdst also isn't condoning the message of the hacked by condemning the hacking itself. I don't support the hacking either.
 
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All I heard was "thoughtcrime" - an incredibly fascist construct.

Attacking someone as a part of a hate organization (hate crime) is not a thought. Making very real threats against someone (hate speech) is not a thought. Thoughts have nothing to do with hate crime and hate speech in the US - only actions - for which one should be held accountable. Perhaps you should learn something about the laws instead of substituting childish 1984 fantasies.
 
Re: ‘Anonymous’ hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

Attacking someone as a part of a hate organization (hate crime) is not a thought. Making very real threats against someone (hate speech) is not a thought. Thoughts have nothing to do with hate crime and hate speech in the US - only actions - for which one should be held accountable. Perhaps you should learn something about the laws instead of substituting childish 1984 fantasies.

When you can take two identical crimes and try them differently, thoughtcrime is on trial. A white man beating a white man is the same assault as a white man beating a black man. The only difference is an intangible. That's thoughtcrime.
 
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When you can take two identical crimes and try them differently, thoughtcrime is on trial. A white man beating a white man is the same assault as a white man beating a black man. The only difference is an intangible. That's thoughtcrime.

correct and neither of the two crimes you described would be a hate crime hence theres no thought crime.
"identical" crimes arent being tried differently

white man beating a white man
white man beating a black man
black man beating a white man

as "described" these are all "identical" crimes and none of them are hate crimes or thought crimes
 
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When you can take two identical crimes and try them differently, thoughtcrime is on trial. A white man beating a white man is the same assault as a white man beating a black man. The only difference is an intangible. That's thoughtcrime.

You don't understand the law. What matters is that the crime, the ACTION (who gives a **** about thought) is greater than a normal robbery or attack. The ACT is perpetrated for the express and exclusive purpose of striking terror into a gender/race. The ACT is accompanied by no motive other than to cause terror. The ACT is linked to a larger organization, through membership or other direct involvement. The ACT is much more than common crap, it's terrorism. That's why it's called hate crime.

Taking a 3 year old's understanding of the law "well, it's a white and a black!" is stupid, pathetic even. Learn the law, enough idiocy.
 
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You don't understand the law. What matters is that the crime, the ACTION (who gives a **** about thought) is greater than a normal robbery or attack. The ACT is perpetrated for the express and exclusive purpose of striking terror into a gender/race. The ACT is accompanied by no motive other than to cause terror. The ACT is linked to a larger organization, through membership or other direct involvement. The ACT is much more than common crap, it's terrorism. That's why it's called hate crime.

Taking a 5 year old's understanding of the law "well, it's a white and a black!" is stupid, pathetic even. Learn the law and stop spewing idiocy.

I hate whites so I will attack them. If this is done by a white person there is no terror? Of course not, stop pretending otherwise.
 
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I hate whites so I will attack them. If this is done by a white person there is no terror? Of course not, stop pretending otherwise.

A white person who hates white people. Really. You're going to use the .00001% nutbag in some ignorant attempt to tear down just laws against gender and race based terrorism? Lovely.

Fact: a white straight male CAN be convicted of hate crime against a white straight male (same age, even).
 
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I can only see one group rationally worried about hate crime prosecution injustice - members of hate groups. Merely being in such an organization satisfies one of the 2 major requirements for prosecution. For them, an otherwise normal crime/incident could be construed as a hate crime.
 
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A white person who hates white people. Really. You're going to use the .00001% nutbag in some ignorant attempt to tear down just laws against gender and race based terrorism? Lovely.

Fact: a white straight male CAN be convicted of hate crime against a white straight male.

Gender and race terrorism isn't more than the non-thought crimes that are committed. Beating someone up is better to you than beating them up because you think a non-state approved way. That is silly and childish.
 
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Gender and race terrorism isn't more than the non-thought crimes that are committed. Beating someone up is better to you than beating them up because you think a non-state approved way. That is silly and childish.

You don't understand. If the crime's motive is exclusively to strike terror, and the crime is directly supported by an organization, we have something bigger than just a mugging here to deal with. This is not JoeBob needed a few bucks so he slapped JimBo around. This is organized and executed terror against a gender or race.

People have been convicted for hate crimes against white straight males.
 
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You don't understand. If the crime's motive is exclusively to strike terror, and the crime is directly supported by an organization, we have something bigger than just a mugging here to deal with. This is not JoeBob needed a few bucks so he slapped JimBo around. This is organized and executed terror against a gender or race.

People have been convicted for hate crimes against white straight males.

I know, non-state approved thinking. Hate crimes are done by individuals. I am sure you think that mind control is a thing, but it isn't.
 
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I know, non-state approved thinking. Hate crimes are done by individuals. I am sure you think that mind control is a thing, but it isn't.

Robbery or murder is not the same crime when part of organized terror conducted against a gender/race. Is that really beyond peoples' grasp?! The impact on and danger to society are far ****ing greater.
 
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Robbery or murder is not the same crime when part of organized terror against a gender/race.

Is that really beyond peoples' grasp?!

One is actual, one is imagined.
 
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One is actual, one is imagined.

It's not imagined when there is no other motive for the crime whatsoever and the accused is a member of a hate group and possesses hate propaganda targeting the victim's gender/race.

Then it's reality. And it needs to be dealt with.


Are you seriously unable to understand the concept of motive and its importance in justice?
 
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It's not imagined when there is no other motive for the crime whatsoever and the accused is a member of a hate group and possesses hate propaganda targeting the victim's gender/race.

Then it's reality. And it needs to be dealt with.

The motive is the motive for all crimes, they are regulating and punishing you because you broke some imaginary law they want to enforce.
 
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The motive is the motive for all crimes,

Idiocy

Good day
 
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I hate whites so I will attack them. If this is done by a white person there is no terror? Of course not, stop pretending otherwise.
another post by you another failed starwman i notic you didnt address any actual facts and hence your post fails
 
Re: ‘Anonymous’ hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

A white person who hates white people. Really. You're going to use the .00001% nutbag in some ignorant attempt to tear down just laws against gender and race based terrorism? Lovely.

Fact: a white straight male CAN be convicted of hate crime against a white straight male (same age, even).

100% correct but dont use facts it confuses people that want to make a post void of them
 
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I know, non-state approved thinking. Hate crimes are done by individuals. I am sure you think that mind control is a thing, but it isn't.

another failed strawman what thinking are we talking about, id love for you to answer that questino but i know you wont because it destroys your post
 
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One is actual, one is imagined.

nope both are factual and only can be factual if there is evidence of such, fact defeat and destoy your post again lol
 
Re: ‘Anonymous’ hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

The motive is the motive for all crimes, they are regulating and punishing you because you broke some imaginary law they want to enforce.

wrong again they are susing factual EVIDENCE nothing imaginary. Facts prove you wrong again, this is hilarious.
 
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Stupid racist fascists. Great job by Anon and their website is still down! Love it! They have every right to exist and be ignorant fascist bigots, but others still have the right to speak out against them and fight against their ignorant views. Great job Anon! [/FONT][/COLOR]

What Anonymous is doing is fascistic and illegal. I'm rather disappointed this is something you approve of. Individuals and groups have a right to freedom of speech as long as it does not involve a call for violence. Defacing someone's website is a form of suppression of free speech. If Anonymous was running the country, not only would they would arrest and prosecute all white supremacists, but also anyone else who opposes their views.
 
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I agree, to a point.

This was a minor ordeal.

I prefer they start going after the three letter agencies.

Do you have any idea how fast they would become even more anonymous? (i.e. in a hole somewhere that doesn't officially exist)
 
Re: ‘Anonymous’ hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

A white person who hates white people. Really. You're going to use the .00001% nutbag in some ignorant attempt to tear down just laws against gender and race based terrorism? Lovely.

Fact: a white straight male CAN be convicted of hate crime against a white straight male (same age, even).

Based on religious bias?
 
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