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Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

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a351 said:
For the same reasons we aren't giving birth to monkeys. Jesus ****..
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Why would we give birth to monkeys? monkeys are less evolved so they should be the ones giving birth to humans not the other way round.
 
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beefheart said:
Prove to me that there is a soul. Well, besides this one.
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Faith dies not require proof. If you'd been reading my prior posts you should have known that.
 
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Tigger said:
Faith dies not require proof. If you'd been reading my prior posts you should have known that.
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So...asking scientists for proof, when you don't require it.. Nice gig.

Too bad it's flawed, dishonest and complete rubbish.

But, the religious need their cognitive dissonance, so, soldier on, I need a larf.
 
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L0neW0lf said:
Why would we give birth to monkeys? monkeys are less evolved so they should be the ones giving birth to humans not the other way round.
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Monkeys do not produce humans, nor do humans produce monkeys. Species do not give birth to offspring of differing species. This type of bastardized understanding of evolution is obviously the driving force behind the denial of it.
 
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beefheart said:
So...asking scientists for proof, when you don't require it.. Nice gig.
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Obviously you missed the point. Science claims everything can be proven or disproven yet they cannot provide irrefutable proof of the scientific theory of the beginning of the world. Faith does not require proof so Creationists have no need to provide any since their belief is not based on proof.
 
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Tigger said:
Obviously you missed the point. Science claims everything can be proven or disproven yet they cannot provide irrefutable proof of the scientific theory of the beginning of the world. Faith does not require proof so Creationists have no need to provide any since their belief is not based on proof.
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Prove to me which Darrin was better on Bewitched.
 
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a351 said:
Monkeys do not produce humans, nor do humans produce monkeys. Species do not give birth to offspring of differing species. This type of bastardized understanding of evolution is obviously the driving force behind the denial of it.
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If species can't give birth to other species then we were all created by God in our current form.
 
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L0neW0lf said:
If species can't give birth to other species then we were all created by God in our current form.
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Honest question: do you believe the Earth is less than ten thousand years old?
 
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beefheart said:
Prove to me which Darrin was better on Bewitched.
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It can't be proven either way and I have no opinion on the topic to have faith in.
 
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Aekos said:
Honest question: do you believe the Earth is less than ten thousand years old?
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Of course not, that is not logical. :lol:
 
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Tigger said:
It can't be proven either way and I have no opinion on the topic to have faith in.
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Yes, it can, I have the data.
 
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Tigger said:
Obviously you missed the point. Science claims everything can be proven or disproven yet they cannot provide irrefutable proof of the scientific theory of the beginning of the world. Faith does not require proof so Creationists have no need to provide any since their belief is not based on proof.
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You continue (knowingly, now) to misrepresent the nature of the debate. Is isn't whether or not creationism is faith based but whether it qualifies to be taught alongside evolution in a science class.
 
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Tigger said:
Obviously you missed the point. Science claims everything can be proven or disproven yet they cannot provide irrefutable proof of the scientific theory of the beginning of the world. Faith does not require proof so Creationists have no need to provide any since their belief is not based on proof.
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The problem here is that you have no comprehension of science.

Nothing can be proven or disproven by science. Everything is potentially dis-provable, given more evidence.

But the evidence for evolution is so overwhelming, we can consider it proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
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Cardinal said:
You continue (knowingly, now) to misrepresent the nature of the debate. Is isn't whether or not creationism is faith based but whether it qualifies to be taught alongside evolution in a science class.
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Since neither idea can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt neither one holds any more weight so far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't teach creationism in schools but I also wouldn't treat the big bang theory as fact like so many schools seem to.
 
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Tigger said:
Since neither idea can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt neither one holds any more weight so far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't teach creationism in schools but I also wouldn't treat the big bang theory as fact like so many schools seem to.
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Actually, the big bang is a fact. You're perfectly free to point out that we don't know exactly where all that energy/matter came from and what existed before it. But the big bang itself? That happened.

Which is still not evolution, by the way, and it still doesn't change the fact that as Creationism doesn't operate on science, it doesn't belong in a science class.
 
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L0neW0lf said:
Why would we give birth to monkeys? monkeys are less evolved so they should be the ones giving birth to humans not the other way round.
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If this is your understanding of evolution, you really really really need to go back to real biology textbook for the proper explanation of evolution.

What you describe is not what evolutions says is has happened , is happening or is going to happen. Animals do not simply transform from one species in to another in one generation. It takes 1000s of generations for change to be noticeable.

Some of the most rabid creationist websites like Answers in Genesis and Creation Ministries International say this argument is foolish.
 
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L0neW0lf said:
Of course not, that is not logical. :lol:
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Are you a Muslim?

I'm just making a general comment here, but Muslims usually seem to be the most anti-intellectual when it comes to science.
 
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L0neW0lf said:
If species can't give birth to other species then we were all created by God in our current form.
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Aekos said:
Fail.

Common ancestor bro. We didn't evolve from monkeys; rather, us and monkeys evolved from a now extinct common ancestor
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...and from where did our mutual ancestor evolve? Bacteria? Fish? A lizard named Joe?

(a real question humorously posed)
 
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specklebang said:
...and from where did our mutual ancestor evolve? Bacteria? Fish? A lizard named Joe?

(a real question humorously posed)
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First of all, our relation to Old World Monkeys goes quite far back (>20 mya). What you are thinking of are chimpanzees and gorillas, which are not monkeys but apes. We diverged from chimpanzees
around 7 mya, right around when Sahelanthropus tchadensis lived. From which genus did Sahelanthropus evolve? Likely Dryopithecus or Oreopithecus and other suspensory apes.
 
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ethanUNC said:
What did you learn in school, then? Egypt's education must be inferior.
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It was a joke, because he asked what is illogical about evolution.

As for education in developing countries being inferior, that is obvious, I doubt you needed a random post from a random person to infer that.
 
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ethanUNC said:
First of all, our relation to Old World Monkeys goes quite far back (>20 mya). What you are thinking of are chimpanzees and gorillas, which are not monkeys but apes. We diverged from chimpanzees
around 7 mya, right around when Sahelanthropus tchadensis lived. From which genus did Sahelanthropus evolve? Likely Dryopithecus or Oreopithecus and other suspensory apes.
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I'm so totally impressed by your post. No fish, huh? So where did Dryopithecus evolve from?
 
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