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Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

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Aekos said:
What's the purpose of faith if its conclusions cannot be proven, deciphered, explained?

Science gives us a tool to understand the world conclusively, and at the same time improve our quality of life and give some meaning to our life on this little rocky planet among billions of little rocky planets.
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The purpose of Faith is to remind us that there are powers I. The Universe which are more important and powerful than human understanding can ever comprehend.

Science gives you a tool to try and tell yourself that everything can be explained so you don't have to deal with the idea that there might be something out there that you can't explain.
 
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Tigger said:
The purpose of Faith is to remind us that there are powers I. The Universe which are more important and powerful than human understanding can ever comprehend.

Science gives you a tool to try and tell yourself that everything can be explained so you don't have to deal with the idea that there might be something out there that you can't explain.
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The computer you're typing on is entirely due to science and the scientific method.

What's the point of God if it merely invites more questions and more mysteries? Because let's face it, historically, the purpose of the (human) invention of God was to try and explain various physical phenomena. We understand most of said phenomena. What's the modern purpose of Organized Religion?
 
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Cardinal said:
Yeah, well that's sort of how science works. If you want to do science, you have to play by science rules.
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That's why I won't play by science's rules. Science wants to ignore the idea that there might be something out there which it cannot explain.

Cardinal said:
As for the rest of your post, a lot of us have seen or experienced some strange things, but there really isn't much point in talking about them in any concrete sense, in my opinion, as there's no real world context to apply them to. So I don't deny that I saw what I saw, but I just sort of quietly accept them and sit on them. Anyway, if what we call paranormal is in fact real, scientific methods will evolve to the point that they can study it. You can't blame science for not being as advanced as you would like it to be. It can only move as as quickly as people can learn.
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So if science can't prove you saw what you know you saw you won't believe it. That's quite sad so far as I'm concerned.
 
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Aekos said:
What's the point of God if it merely invites more questions and more mysteries? Because let's face it, historically, the purpose of the (human) invention of God was to try and explain various physical phenomena. We understand most of said phenomena. What's the modern purpose of Organized Religion?
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Your question shows your lack of belief. We didn't create God. The Gods created us.
 
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Tigger said:
Your question shows your lack of belief. We didn't create God. The Gods created us.
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I don't believe in things I cannot prove. I don't understand God and I don't see the function of Organized Religion which has, historically, only led to oppression and conflict.
 
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Aekos said:
I don't believe in things I cannot prove. I don't understand God and I don't see the function of Organized Religion which has, historically, only led to oppression and conflict.
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I do not believe in the idea of organized religion. I believe in spirituality and a personal connection with the Divine. If you cannot believe in anything you cannot prove then I feel rather sad for you. It must be an exceptionally limiting life.
 
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Tigger said:
I do not believe in the idea of organized religion. I believe in spirituality and a personal connection with the Divine. If you cannot believe in anything you cannot prove then I feel rather sad for you. It must be an exceptionally limiting life.
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The only limiting life is that life whereby a rational inquiry into the natural world is shunned and instead replaced by faith to some unknown entity that has the answers.
 
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Aekos said:
What's the point of God if it merely invites more questions and more mysteries? Because let's face it, historically, the purpose of the (human) invention of God was to try and explain various physical phenomena. We understand most of said phenomena. What's the modern purpose of Organized Religion?
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Tigger said:
Your question shows your lack of belief. We didn't create God. The Gods created us.
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Pro-tip for you Aekos. The Christian god has his historical origins during the Babylonian exile occurring 600-500 BCE. With the exception of Zoroastrianism and Atenism, the idea of a single God was created only about 2,500 years old. The Egyptian pyramids are older than Him.
 
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Aekos said:
The only limiting life is that life whereby a rational inquiry into the natural world is shunned and instead replaced by faith to some unknown entity that has the answers.
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When one does not believe this life is the end of things but rather the beginning, it makes a big difference.
 
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Tigger said:
When one does not believe this life is the end of things but rather the beginning, it makes a big difference.
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I believe that since we cannot know for sure that there is an afterlife, we should live this life we have, this precious life, to the fullest.
 
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brothern said:
Pro-tip for you Aekos. The Christian god has his historical origins during the Babylonian exile occurring 600-500 BCE. With the exception of Zoroastrianism and Atenism, the idea of a single God was created only about 2,500 years old. The Egyptian pyramids are older than Him.
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I was trying to be kind...

Most aspects of Christianity were stolen from the prevailing "spiritual movements" that came before. Including most of the miracles of the Bible and such.
 
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Aekos said:
I believe that since we cannot know for sure that there is an afterlife, we should live this life we have, this precious life, to the fullest.
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Honestly I don't believe human life has much value, and I'm not a Christian. I believe we are here as a test of the Soul.
 
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Tigger said:
That's why I won't play by science's rules. Science wants to ignore the idea that there might be something out there which it cannot explain.
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If you have another method for collecting, analyzing and testing data at least as consistently and efficiently as the scientific method, I'd love to hear it.


Tigger said:
So if science can't prove you saw what you know you saw you won't believe it. That's quite sad so far as I'm concerned.
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I didn't say I don't believe it, my point is that as there's no real world context to put it in talking about it is pointless at best. What am I going to do? Say, "Hey guys, come check out this paranormal thing I saw"? I can't replicate it for anybody, nobody can come over and explain it to me since there's nothing repeatable to observe and test, so again, what's the point? It's my personal experience and it's in that realm it'll stay. Why I'm bothering to go into this is that the scientific method is superior for dealing with certain phenomena because it demands a level of consistency that everybody can participate in, unlike your ghost story or my experience. Can you imagine how the Manhattan Project would have gone if the team had used faith instead?

Oppenheimer: Hey, Fermi, check it out. I'm pretty sure if I hook up this chunk of plutonium to an alarm clock we'll get a nuclear explosion.
Fermi: Okay, I tried it. Nothing happened.
Oppenheimer: Dude, have faith.
 
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Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate... blah blah blah


DDDDUUUURRR

Just because corrupt assholes can make a rhyme out his name the Dumbocrats worship him. Even though he doesn't know jack **** about real science.
 
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Tigger said:
Honestly I don't believe human life has much value, and I'm not a Christian. I believe we are here as a test of the Soul.
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Fair enough.

I am exactly the opposite to you. I am an Existentialist and I believe that there is no meaning to life other than the life we give it ourselves. This life is the only life we have. Existence precedes essence (sartre)
 
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Muhammed said:
Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate... blah blah blah


DDDDUUUURRR

Just because corrupt assholes can make a rhyme out his name the Dumbocrats worship him. Even though he doesn't know jack **** about real science.
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:roll: :lol: :lamo

He has a degree in mechanical engineering at Cornell University. He's an expert and you have absolutely no reason to say he knows "jack****" about real science
 
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Aekos said:
:roll: :lol: :lamo

He has a degree in mechanical engineering at Cornell University. He's an expert and you have absolutely no reason to say he knows "jack****" about real science
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Degrees usually only impress subservient idiots.

Logic matters more in the minds of non-Dumocrats.
 
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Muhammed said:
Degrees usually only impress subservient idiots.

Logic matter more in the minds of non-Dumocrats.
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What is "illogical" about evolution?
 
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Tigger said:
. I believe in spirituality and a personal connection with the Divine.
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I agree, Divine was fabulous!

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beefheart said:
I agree, Divine was fabulous!
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Sarcasm doesn't look good on a soul's resume.
 
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Tigger said:
Sarcasm doesn't look good on a soul's resume.
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****, sarcasm is a sin too, now?
 
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Aekos said:
What is "illogical" about evolution?
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Why aren't monkeys having human children?
 
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L0neW0lf said:
Why aren't monkeys having human children?
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Fail.

Common ancestor bro. We didn't evolve from monkeys; rather, us and monkeys evolved from a now extinct common ancestor
 
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L0neW0lf said:
Why aren't monkeys having human children?
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For the same reasons we aren't giving birth to monkeys. Jesus ****..
 
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Tigger said:
Sarcasm doesn't look good on a soul's resume.
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Prove to me that there is a soul. Well, besides this one.

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