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TheNextEra · Jan 3, 2014

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Born Free said:
You support Liar Obama, he is your man. Lies and all. He is a liar is he not?

In bold, have at it. I look forward to you showing me where you said Obama is a liar?

Show me where I support Obama. That is what YOU claimed. Therefore you should be able to provide quotes proving your claim liar. As usual you just spout of **** without ANY proof. Show me where I have SUPPORTED Obama liar.

Born Free · Jan 3, 2014

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TheNextEra said:
Show me where I support Obama. That is what YOU claimed. Therefore you should be able to provide quotes proving your claim liar. As usual you just spout of **** without ANY proof. Show me where I have SUPPORTED Obama liar.

You support Liar Obama, until you show me that you ever said "Obama is a liar" you support him. You go around calling other people a liar but please show me where you called Obama a liar. You threatened me with your BS and I was expecting all this proof of you saying Obama is a liar. Until you can pull up a predated claim that Obama is a liar you are a Obama supporter. Period. Obama did make the Liar of the Year award. Yet you fail to show me where you ever said he is a liar. Thus you are an Obama liberal. Of course everyone knows this.

TheNextEra · Jan 3, 2014

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Born Free said:
You support Liar Obama, until you show me that you ever said "Obama is a liar" you support him. You go around calling other people a liar but please show me where you called Obama a liar. You threatened me with your BS and I was expecting all this proof of you saying Obama is a liar. Until you can pull up a predated claim that Obama is a liar you are a Obama supporter. Period. Obama did make the Liar of the Year award. Yet you fail to show me where you ever said he is a liar. Thus you are an Obama liberal. Of course everyone knows this.

It's your job to prove your claims with proof not with a negative fallacy like you have done here. I have shown WITH POSTS that I do not support Obama or his policies. You have failed to provide ONE bit of POSITIVE proof that I support Obama. This negative fallacy bull**** you just tried to throw only proves that you are a LIAR. I said I have posts proving I do not support his policies.

You are a proven liar on this thread.

Born Free · Jan 3, 2014

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TheNextEra said:
It's your job to prove your claims with proof not with a negative fallacy like you have done here. I have shown WITH POSTS that I do not support Obama or his policies. You have failed to provide ONE bit of POSITIVE proof that I support Obama. This negative fallacy bull**** you just tried to throw only proves that you are a LIAR. I said I have posts proving I do not support his policies.

You are a proven liar on this thread.

Like I said you call everybody a liar, but you failed to call Obama a liar. Thus you are one of his trusted beloved supporters. Period. You were quick to show me you are for reforms but now you have NO evidence you have ever said Obama is a liar. I have said it repeatedly, but you have never mentioned it. You tell lies with all your BS that your not an Obama this or that. What crap. We all know you love Obama, who is a liar, who has done nothing for the middle class, who has done nothing for the black unemployment rate, who has raised our national debt faster and higher than any president before him. The first president ever to receive a credit downgrade on his watch, a president that leads from behind, a president that gave us failed Obamacare with lies. etc etc etc. Your beloved Obama is a complete failure and a liar. Last Obama has received the lair of year award which you defend Obama for his lies.

TheNextEra · Jan 4, 2014

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Born Free said:
Like I said you call everybody a liar, but you failed to call Obama a liar. Thus you are one of his trusted beloved supporters. Period. You were quick to show me you are for reforms but now you have NO evidence you have ever said Obama is a liar. I have said it repeatedly, but you have never mentioned it. You tell lies with all your BS that your not an Obama this or that. What crap. We all know you love Obama, who is a liar, who has done nothing for the middle class, who has done nothing for the black unemployment rate, who has raised our national debt faster and higher than any president before him. The first president ever to receive a credit downgrade on his watch, a president that leads from behind, a president that gave us failed Obamacare with lies. etc etc etc. Your beloved Obama is a complete failure and a liar. Last Obama has received the lair of year award which you defend Obama for his lies.

It doesn't work that way, my god you fail debating 101. Unless you can show me any quotes from ME that I said Obama hasn't lied, than you FAIL at proving your point. I haven't called Rick Santorum a liar in any of my posts either, but that doesn't mean I support him.

I've called you a liar, because twice in this thread you have accused me of something and provided ZERO proof in the form of posts. The first time you said I didn't support ANY reforms and I provided posts (unlike you) showing I do. That is your way though, accuse someone and then provide no proof. It's ok, people now know you zero credibility.

Your comments are dumb as **** and you have proven yourself once again to be a liar in this thread. How about you actually provide PROOF and not ABSENCE of proof. Your comments are moronic as is your failed attempts at accusing me of being an Obama supporter. I have posts where I have slammed the Dems and Republicans as well as Obama. The fact you have provided NOTHING in the form of posts is proof you're lying yet again. My god you should be embarrassed if that is the best you can come up with :lamo

Rocketman · Jan 4, 2014

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TheNextEra said:
You just said you wanted to have an independent auditor. That would mean they would get paid for by the federal government. Do you think they would do it out of the kindness of their hearts?

Absolutely not, don't be silly. Contractors are much better than in house auditors, case in point the IRS.

Kobie · Jan 4, 2014

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Born Free said:
You support Liar Obama, until you show me that you ever said "Obama is a liar" you support him.

Wow. That might be the worst argument I've ever seen.

Born Free · Jan 4, 2014

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TheNextEra said:
It doesn't work that way, my god you fail debating 101. Unless you can show me any quotes from ME that I said Obama hasn't lied, than you FAIL at proving your point. I haven't called Rick Santorum a liar in any of my posts either, but that doesn't mean I support him.

I've called you a liar, because twice in this thread you have accused me of something and provided ZERO proof in the form of posts. The first time you said I didn't support ANY reforms and I provided posts (unlike you) showing I do. That is your way though, accuse someone and then provide no proof. It's ok, people now know you zero credibility.

Your comments are dumb as **** and you have proven yourself once again to be a liar in this thread. How about you actually provide PROOF and not ABSENCE of proof. Your comments are moronic as is your failed attempts at accusing me of being an Obama supporter. I have posts where I have slammed the Dems and Republicans as well as Obama. The fact you have provided NOTHING in the form of posts is proof you're lying yet again. My god you should be embarrassed if that is the best you can come up with :lamo

All BS, your a Liar Obama supporter. My hands are clean, I did not vote for the SOB and I call him a liar. You on the other hand have not called Obama on his lies. Obama is a factual liar and got the liar of the year award, Rick Santorum did not. You lay out all this BS about proof and the absence of this and that. The fact is you have never called Obama on his lies and have never called him a liar. Why, let me tell you, you love Obama.

TheNextEra · Jan 4, 2014

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Born Free said:
All BS, your a Liar Obama supporter. My hands are clean, I did not vote for the SOB and I call him a liar. You on the other hand have not called Obama on his lies. Obama is a factual liar and got the liar of the year award, Rick Santorum did not. You lay out all this BS about proof and the absence of this and that. The fact is you have never called Obama on his lies and have never called him a liar. Why, let me tell you, you love Obama.

Again when you show quotes from me supporting OBAMA let me know. Until then you are a liar. I have provided quotes where I don't support the dems or Obama, you have provided NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING. As I said before, show me the quotes where I haven't said Obama has lied. Until you can, you are pathetically losing and are being shown as the liar you are. Go ahead, for once PROVIDE PROOF of YOUR claims. Show me quotes proving your claims. YOU CANNOT BECAUSE NONE EXIST TO PROVE YOUR CLAIMS. This is why you are a liar.

I have provided quotes where I DON'T support the Dems and I don't support Obama, you have provided NOTHING. Why is that? Oh yeah, cause you are a liar.

TheNextEra · Jan 4, 2014

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Kobie said:
Wow. That might be the worst argument I've ever seen.

Yes it is, this sums up Born Free's arguments:

Born Free: You support Obama

Me: No I don't

Born Free: Provide Proof you don't.

This is why his arguments fail. He NEVER provides proof, just accuses. In this thread alone I called him out on a lie and then he said it was a "Bad Assumption". Now he just continues his lies.

winston53660 · Jan 4, 2014

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Born Free said:
All BS, your a Liar Obama supporter. My hands are clean, I did not vote for the SOB and I call him a liar. You on the other hand have not called Obama on his lies. Obama is a factual liar and got the liar of the year award, Rick Santorum did not. You lay out all this BS about proof and the absence of this and that. The fact is you have never called Obama on his lies and have never called him a liar. Why, let me tell you, you love Obama.

Oh dear god you are silly. I did vote for Obama. It does not mean I love him. I regularly write letters to these guys in office to bitch and complain

Born Free · Jan 4, 2014

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TheNextEra said:
Again when you show quotes from me supporting OBAMA let me know. Until then you are a liar. I have provided quotes where I don't support the dems or Obama, you have provided NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING. As I said before, show me the quotes where I haven't said Obama has lied. Until you can, you are pathetically losing and are being shown as the liar you are. Go ahead, for once PROVIDE PROOF of YOUR claims. Show me quotes proving your claims. YOU CANNOT BECAUSE NONE EXIST TO PROVE YOUR CLAIMS. This is why you are a liar.

I have provided quotes where I DON'T support the Dems and I don't support Obama, you have provided NOTHING. Why is that? Oh yeah, cause you are a liar.

Hey Liar Obama lover. All your BS can't change the facts. Fact, you have refused to call Obama a liar, there is not one post that you ever posted that called Obama on his lies. He did get the liar of the year award. I repeat you are a Liar Obama lover. And I repeat my hands are clean, I did not vote for Liar Obama, but you did.

Born Free · Jan 4, 2014

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winston53660 said:
Oh dear god you are silly. I did vote for Obama. It does not mean I love him. I regularly write letters to these guys in office to bitch and complain

That was the worst mistake you could ever make, is vote for liar Obama. He fooled you, or should I say he lied to you and you fell for his lies hook line and sinker, like the rest of the Liar Obama voters.

TheNextEra · Jan 4, 2014

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Born Free said:
Hey Liar Obama lover. All your BS can't change the facts. Fact, you have refused to call Obama a liar, there is not one post that you ever posted that called Obama on his lies. He did get the liar of the year award. I repeat you are a Liar Obama lover. And I repeat my hands are clean, I did not vote for Liar Obama, but you did.

How can I be an Obama lover if I haven't voted for him or supported his policies? Please answer that genius. I have posts showing that, do you EVER provide REAL proof like QUOTES? I've asked several times for you to provide posts showing I'm an obama lover even though I have posts showing otherwise. You're a liar, plain and simple. Everyone in this thread can see that cause you haven't provided ANY QUOTES proving your claims.

WhAt's better the last lie you got caught in this thread on you said it was a "Bad Assumption". You have ZERO credibility here.

winston53660 · Jan 4, 2014

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Born Free said:
That was the worst mistake you could ever make, is vote for liar Obama. He fooled you, or should I say he lied to you and you fell for his lies hook line and sinker, like the rest of the Liar Obama voters.

Yeah McCain would have saved the world the nation or maybe Palin:roll:

Born Free · Jan 4, 2014

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TheNextEra said:
How can I be an Obama lover if I haven't voted for him or supported his policies? Please answer that genius. I have posts showing that, do you EVER provide REAL proof like QUOTES? I've asked several times for you to provide posts showing I'm an obama lover even though I have posts showing otherwise. You're a liar, plain and simple. Everyone in this thread can see that cause you haven't provided ANY QUOTES proving your claims.

WhAt's better the last lie you got caught in this thread on you said it was a "Bad Assumption". You have ZERO credibility here.

You love Obama, you have not called him on his lies. Obama gets the liar of the year award, yet you don't call Liar Obama on it. Further you run around calling other people liars but not Obama. So get off your BS. Nothing you can tell me will ever convenience me you are not an Obama lover. Last you go around saying I haven't provided any quotes. THERE IS NO QUOTES OF YOU SAYING OBAMA IS LIAR. If you have a prior post calling Liar Obama a liar then show me.

Born Free · Jan 4, 2014

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winston53660 said:
Yeah McCain would have saved the world the nation or maybe Palin:roll:

See you do love Liar Obama, the guy that kept the black community at the highest unemployment rate ever. The guy that has not done one thing for the middle class, instead they are making less in wages. The guy that has raised our national debt by over 7 trillion in just 5 years. A guy that lied to the American people to get reelected. The guy that gave us failed Obamacare. The guy that leads from behind, I would say he does not lead. Period You know the word "Period" Liar Obama used that word 30 times to sell the American people on Obamacare. Obama is the guy that got the first and only credit downgrade on his watch. Russia tells Obama what to do and the French tell him he is an idiot for wanting to sign a bogus deal with Iran. The guy who could not lead this country out of a recession. I could go on and on but Liar Obama is a lame duck for the rest of his term, why, no one believes him, except you and theNextEra.

TheNextEra · Jan 4, 2014

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Born Free said:
You love Obama, you have not called him on his lies. Obama gets the liar of the year award, yet you don't call Liar Obama on it. Further you run around calling other people liars but not Obama. So get off your BS. Nothing you can tell me will ever convenience me you are not an Obama lover. Last you go around saying I haven't provided any quotes. THERE IS NO QUOTES OF YOU SAYING OBAMA IS LIAR. If you have a prior post calling Liar Obama a liar then show me.

THERE ARE NO QUOTES FROM ME SAYING OBAMA ISN'T A LIAR. So unless you can provide those, then YOU LOSE. Simple, you lied like you did BEFORE IN THIS THREAD. Only you got caught saying "it was a bad assumption" when you lied.

winston53660 · Jan 4, 2014

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Born Free said:
See you do love Liar Obama, the guy that kept the black community at the highest unemployment rate ever. The guy that has not done one thing for the middle class, instead they are making less in wages. The guy that has raised our national debt by over 7 trillion in just 5 years. A guy that lied to the American people to get reelected. The guy that gave us failed Obamacare. The guy that leads from behind, I would say he does not lead. Period You know the word "Period" Liar Obama used that word 30 times to sell the American people on Obamacare. Obama is the guy that got the first and only credit downgrade on his watch. Russia tells Obama what to do and the French tell him he is an idiot for wanting to sign a bogus deal with Iran. The guy who could not lead this country out of a recession. I could go on and on but Liar Obama is a lame duck for the rest of his term, why, no one believes him, except you and theNextEra.

Yeah I love him I want to have a threesome with him and Bush 43

Born Free · Jan 4, 2014

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TheNextEra said:
THERE ARE NO QUOTES FROM ME SAYING OBAMA ISN'T A LIAR. So unless you can provide those, then YOU LOSE. Simple, you lied like you did BEFORE IN THIS THREAD. Only you got caught saying "it was a bad assumption" when you lied.

Nice try, please show me a post that you called Liar Obama on his lies. Not one. Give it up Liar Obama lover. :doh

Born Free · Jan 4, 2014

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winston53660 said:
Yeah I love him I want to have a threesome with him and Bush 43

Nice try to avoid Liar Obama's failures that you just can't come to terms with.

TheNextEra · Jan 4, 2014

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Born Free said:
Nice try, pleas show me a post that you called Liar Obama on his lies. Not one. Give it up Liar Obama lover. :doh

You're the one that made the claim it's up to YOU to provide the proof liar. See you cannot provide ANY proof :lamo

It's hilarious watching you fail.

Gina · Jan 5, 2014

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Moderator's Warning:

Baiting and personal attacks need to stop now. With an in-thread already posted at #87, moderation just became more narrow with the addition of this one.

d0gbreath · Jan 7, 2014

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LowDown said:
Something like 70% of them are disabled by headaches or back pain. I hate to say fraud, but, yeah, fraud.

I hope a person with chronic migraines, or the back pain from Hell reads this.

upsideguy · Jan 7, 2014

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Rocketman said:
and watch more jobs leave the country, great idea. I would not expand anything for .50 cents on the dollar, would you?

That is why you have low capital gains taxes.... so you wealth build over time; not exploit for current income. With a 50% marginal tax rate on income combined with low capital gains you are actually incented to invest as your expenses (including costs of hiring people) are actually "subsidized" in the form of lower taxes at the rate of 50 cents on the dollar.... and you are less likely to be concerned about your own current income (because of the high marginal rate) with an eye toward wealth building (capital appreciation of your business)....

Most studies show no correlation between the highest marginal tax rates and economic growth (increasing or decreasing marginal rates does not matter). We had our greatest economic expansion during the 1950's when marginal rates were as high as 90%. That said, there is a correlation between highest marginal rate and a strong middle class.

Wealth Disparity - Wealth vs marginal tax rates.jpg

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