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'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

You obviously have no idea how evolution works. Evolution does not concern itself with culture and social norms. Gay and lesbian people are physically capable of reproduction and they do reproduce. Thus any genetic basis for their sexual preference can be passed on to subsequent generations. For example, there are plenty of self-loathing closeted social conservatives that have managed to have large families just the same.

Moreover, if you are a Christian, then evolution is wholly incompatible with it. So I am not sure why you are using that as an argument.

Dear Lord, really? Homosexuals cannot reproduce homosexually. Men can mix their sperm with female eggs and nurture them in a female womb, and that's about the way it's done. Evolution has no foresight, it does not do anything with a purpose, it only is. We evolve in many different ways due to external, and internal pressures. Those pressures are not necessarily physical in nature, they are often intangibles like psychologically, societally, culturally. We most certainly do evolve, and we're doing it right now, and we're doing it based on a manner in which the fittest genes will always come out on top. Fittest genes does not or is always incorrectly misinterpreted to mean bigger stronger faster, but that is simply not the case. The fittest genes are those that merely continue to pass themselves on. It doesn't matter why, only how often.


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Dear Lord, really? Homosexuals cannot reproduce homosexually.

Tim-

That is irrelevant, because they certainly can and do reproduce just like everyone else does. Thus their genes get passed on. This argument you are making is absurd. Are you saying that gay men never impregnate women? Are you saying that lesbian women never get impregnated by a man? If those things happen, and they do, then they can pass on their genes and any genetic basis for their sexual preference.

You should read works like The Selfish Gene.
 
Once again, people are not offended by him saying that he is a Christian and as a Bible believing Christian, he believes homosexuality is a sin. It's not some attack on his religious beliefs. What people are offended about is his comparing homosexuality to bestiality. When you basically equate the two lesbian chicks down the road that have been living together for a decade to some sicko that rapes his dog, people will get offended. What part of that is so difficult to grasp??
So what? People are allowed to be stupid as long as they arent screwing with other people. I happen to think girl on beastiality is kinda kinky (although I would never do it or take part in it in any way or date a girl that did it because I feel it is wrong). Yet male on male homosexuality grosses me out. It makes me go "Ewwww". But im not enforcing my whim in taste on other people and neither is he to my knowledge. If we was hurting gay people id care. Hes just being a stupid honest person though so I forgive him. This instantly makes him better than most the people i meet in real life who just fake smile to your face all tie and tell bold face, sarcastic lies to your ears just for the sake of avoiding conflict through argument.

A&E could have used this truthful oppurtunity to bring in some figure head, like a homosexual chistian preacher or something and used an honest moment for something worth capturing. Or they could censor him in their way and act like all the other people who choose to ignore the ugly and fake smile to your face. All about image right?

Some people honestly dont care what you think of them on their opinions. If you did this with the most evil and vile things you KNOW about yourself would have you trouble sharing it with the world? Whatever it is you have deep down inside you that you know the face of society will judge you for. Are you brave enough to be your 100% self in front of this face
 
That is irrelevant, because they certainly can and do reproduce just like everyone else does. Thus their genes get passed on. This argument you are making is absurd. Are you saying that gay men never impregnate women? Are you saying that lesbian women never get impregnated by a man? If those things happen, and they do, then they can pass on their genes and any genetic basis for their sexual preference.

You should read works like The Selfish Gene.

That's not what I'm saying at all, silly?

I'm saying that for a homosexual gene to be on the locus of a homosexual male or female and that's how homosexuality propagates, it would have born itself out many eons ago. Let's be generous and say that there are 5% of the population that is homosexual. Now, lets say that ALL OF THEM reproduce, how long do you figure it will take to have no more homosexual gene? Not very long, evolutionarily speaking, right? Do you honestly believe that a 5% segment of a population can maintain a 5% segment of a population indefinitely? You wouldn't agree with that, right? I'm asking because you seem to suggest that it could and does?? Very strange, and you accuse me of ignorance? No Sir, if there is a homosexual gene, it is most certainly a recessive gene that is passed on by largely a heterosexual population. How it expresses itself is completely unknown, or whether it is a gene at all. It could be inuterin, but we simply don't know. There is plenty of authoritative evidence that our prefrontal cortex isn't mature until we are in our 20's, and up until this point, our wiring is for the most part unsettled. It is during this time that I personally believe that an influence of some causal nature turns someone gay, even if they at the time don't know it. What it means to be in a summed up point of view, is that, we are all born with a predisposed heterosexual sexuality, however, we are also born with a potential to have an alternative sexuality, and how that might manifest is anyone's guess.


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That's not what I'm saying at all, silly?

I'm saying that for a homosexual gene to be on the locus of a homosexual male or female and that's how homosexuality propagates, it would have born itself out many eons ago. Let's be generous and say that there are 5% of the population that is homosexual. Now, lets say that ALL OF THEM reproduce, how long do you figure it will take to have no more homosexual gene? Not very long, evolutionarily speaking, right? Do you honestly believe that a 5% segment of a population can maintain a 5% segment of a population indefinitely?

Tim-

By the logic you are seemingly employing redheads, which only make up a small percentage of the population, would never sustain themselves genetically either. I would agree that obviously any genetic basis for it would have to be recessive, but there is no reason why such a genetic predisposition would not survive human evolution. Moreover, we see it in other species which would indicate that if there is a genetic component, it predates our genus.
 
By the logic you are seemingly employing redheads, which only make up a small percentage of the population, would never sustain themselves genetically either. I would agree that obviously any genetic basis for it would have to be recessive, but there is no reason why such a genetic predisposition would not survive human evolution. Moreover, we see it in other species which would indicate that if there is a genetic component, it predates our genus.

And I would argue that in other species, we see homosexual behavior, not necessarily homosexuality. We see homosexual behavior in human species as well, but not necessarily homosexuality. Interesting though that you're stipulating that your original argument that homosexuals themselves would be primarily responsible for their own propagation is ridiculous. ;)

No one is arguing that homosexual behavior does not exist, I think that would be silly to suggest, but whether one is inclined to be exclusively homosexual seems to lie mostly with humans. That suggests that it is a human thing that causes it to stick.. So why does it stick with us? That is the real question, and the answer, however unknown is an interesting one for debate, but it does not make one a bigot for expressing their opinion.


Cheers.

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I would really like to hear from our gay or gay supporting posters that think we all should lose our jobs because of our religious, political, or cultural views.
 
Really it should be "intellectual prowess", which would make more sense and then certainly an adj describing prowess, but I guess it's correct either way.

No, it isn't "correct either way".

And it's pretty f'n pathetic that you don't know that already.
 
He was suspended because he compared it to beastiality which is highly offensive.
Which is a false claim and something he didn't do.
So I also doubt he will apologize for something he didn't do.


Here is the quote:

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he tells reporter Drew Magary. “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”
:doh Figures! You left out the most important detail. He was responding to a question asking what he thought was sinful.
Context is everything.
He was not comparing gays to those who engage in bestiality.
He was saying that those are sinful behaviors.
 
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A & E ****canned him in what they saw as their best interest. It was a business decision and they're looking out for their ratings.

Yes and what a mistake that turned out to be.
 
Yep, it's time for them to give up on those folks, at least that one. It's hysterical to me that the CONS seem to forget that without A&E this man would be nothing and no one to anyone other than his clan. The presentation that somehow DuckDorks made A&E instead of the other way around is hysterical, or that A&E owes them anything more than they've already provided is ludicrous.

And this man would be very happy about that.
 
I don't see what all the hub-bub is about....

My understanding:

A&E felt that Phil's comments weren't in line with the image A&E wanted to portray for comments he made in an interview with GQ.

The suspended him.

My thoughts:

Phil is entitled to his opinion.

A&E took DD on their network knowing opinions of the people involved in DD.

A&E shouldn't be surprised about the comments he made off the show.

Phil shouldn't be surprised at A&E's reaction.

A&E has profited from DD and that removing Phil is, at least somewhat, hypocritical.

There will be some consequence for their decision to remove him in the form of public backlash, but a month from now most will have forgotten.

Having said that, Phil knew there were going to be consequences to his actions and chose to make the statement he made anyway. Good for him for standing up for what he believes.

A&E feels that Phil does not represent the image that they want to portray and they are fully within their right to remove him.

As much as everyone wants to claim that this will hurt A&E in the end I think it's a wash at worst and I think the situation could be salvaged to A&E's benifit....

First, for every Redneck Christian viewer they lose, they'll gain someone from the LGBT community who heard about what A&E did and will flock to the network to find programming that caters to them.

I mean a Redneck show on Arts and Entertainment?

My prediction is A&E will sell the rights to the show for mega bucks to a network that caters to rednecks like CMT (Country Music TV network). That's a match made in heaven and I bet CMT would fork out the bucks to get the rights. I would think anyone that watches DD will appreciate this as the members of the show are less likely to have their Christian references edited out of the show...

A&E could take the bucks and make shows that cater to it's growing LGBT audience, thanks to this debacle.

Other than this, did A&E really do something wrong?

What makes you think A&E own the right to the show?
 
The bottom line is that is was in their best interest of a business to sever ties with a public figure that they employ who made bigoted and hateful statements. Maybe Chick fil a will hire him.

They haven't severed anything. The put him on hiatus and are discussing what to do next.

Season 4 is in the can so at least for one more year Phil will be on the show on that network.

So now would you like to rethink that comment?
 
Seems there is always a backlash, no matter the issue, action, or people involved. THE 64 dollah question is to what effect this backlash of which we speak...

Did the one million mom boycott of JC Penny over hiring a lesbian comic as a spokesperson have much affect?

How about the boycott Chik-fil-a over the anti-gay remarks by the owner?

No and NO

As to a false assertion.... guess that is in the eye of the be-scolder.... :peace

You know if you don't know something about a subject, you can go to a search engine and look it up.
 
This comes down to one simple issue, was Phill suspended because he is religious, or because he is intolerant?

We know that the overwhelming majority of Christian sects are intolerant of homosexually.

How do we know this? How many stories are there about churches that refuse to allow gay marriages, parishioners, pastors ect....

Does the Church marry Divorcees? How about liars, thieves and adulterers? But being homosexual get's special condemnation (again by most, not all, of Christianity). This is intolerance fueled by religious dogma.

The rest of us find this kind of intolerance destructive and worthy of our ridicule....

You are free to your thoughts, you are free to your religion, but you aren't free to hoist your intolerance, religious or otherwise upon society and get a free pass just because you do so in the name of your religion.

I'm tolerant of your religion, I'm intolerant of your intolerance.

Nothing he said was intolerant.

He said that he does not judge anybody, loves everybody and he will let God sort it out.

That does not sound like intolerance to me.
 
1.4 million "Likes," including mine, and counting. I tried to find a "mainstream media" headline that made a direct reference to this phenomenon but had to settle for Breitbart.com.

'Boycott A&E' Facebook Support Page for Phil Robertson Gets over 1M Likes

An action that will never get my support, not only is he anti-gay but he is also a bit of a racist and those 2 things do not sit well with me.

Also, the republicans were able to pour billions into the presidential race because "corporations are people". Well, that makes A&E people as well with all the civil rights that go with it and their opinion is much more acceptable IMHO than the opinions of Phil. They do not like anti-gay slurs and good for them. I hope there will be a facebook like for A&E, something I will click on and like.
 
An action that will never get my support, not only is he anti-gay but he is also a bit of a racist and those 2 things do not sit well with me.

Also, the republicans were able to pour billions into the presidential race because "corporations are people". Well, that makes A&E people as well with all the civil rights that go with it and their opinion is much more acceptable IMHO than the opinions of Phil. They do not like anti-gay slurs and good for them. I hope there will be a facebook like for A&E, something I will click on and like.
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No, it isn't "correct either way".

And it's pretty f'n pathetic that you don't know that already.

Huh... what's not grammatically correct about it either way?
Let's not forget you originally stated it was being used as a verb ... so you lecturing me on what's pathetic is amusing.
 

Yes, another example of utter and complete nonsense.

A&E does not say Robertson isn't allowed to have bigoted opinions or thoughts, they disapprove of him making them in GQ.

A&E has the right to disagree with someone who makes bigoted statements because they do not have the same narrow minded points of view.

A&E also has the right to sever ties with someone like that. They do not say he cannot make bigoted statements in the future but they will not be showing a show with him on their network.
 
A&E also has the right to sever ties with someone like that. They do not say he cannot make bigoted statements in the future but they will not be showing a show with him on their network.

he will be all over their channel on Christmas day.
 
Yes, another example of utter and complete nonsense.
Not at all. It is exactly what is happening.


A&E does not say Robertson isn't allowed to have bigoted opinions or thoughts, they disapprove of him making them in GQ.

A&E has the right to disagree with someone who makes bigoted statements because they do not have the same narrow minded points of view.

A&E also has the right to sever ties with someone like that. They do not say he cannot make bigoted statements in the future but they will not be showing a show with him on their network.
A&E is in the wrong. He did not make a comparison.
A&E is wrong for terminating him for honestly answering a question.


An no, it isn't bigoted.
 
What makes you think A&E own the right to the show?

A+E Networks (parent company of A&E made up of the Hearst company and Disney) owns A&E and the rights to DD. But who cares? Why find some insignificant point out of all of what I wrote? Just to call me out?....Congraz.
 
A & E ****canned him in what they saw as their best interest. It was a business decision and they're looking out for their ratings.

Let's see how that works out for A&E. Sucking up to the reach-around crowd may end up costing the network money. :lamo
 
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