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'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

ernst barkmann said:
it shows the left.... , have no tolerance at all, for anything that they disagree with.

so there message of tolerance is false.......and are bigots against people who dont share their ideas.
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The bottom line is that is was in their best interest of a business to sever ties with a public figure that they employ who made bigoted and hateful statements. Maybe Chick fil a will hire him.
 
henrychinaski said:
the bottom line is that is was in their best interest of a business to sever ties with a public figure that they employ who made bigoted and hateful statements. Maybe chick fil a will hire him.
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that is not what i am discussing...i am saying you and the left, are not tolerant of other people who have different views then you...

Liberals can be bigoted people also.
 
ernst barkmann said:
i have never even watched the show at all, however your statement shows anyone who disagrees with your point of view, gets name called.........what happened to all of that tolerance the left is filled with, ..it should be able to with stand, those of different opinions...however it shows it has no tolerance.
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Not that I'm sticking up for the "left", but when someone shows intolerance for someone elses free choices and then disguises their contempt in the guise of religion, then acts all but-hurt when people condemn them, then I'd say that the person/s that make those statements shouldn't be surprised when people react negatively. I don't condone the ridicule from those that oppose Phil's statements, but in some respects I understand it.

The problem is that once a person chalks up their ideas to their religion or more specifically in our culture, Christian religion, that statements made are suddenly free from scrutiny. Sorry, but if you say something intolerant of peoples free choices, you should accept the responsibility for those statements and not hide behind the unprovable assertions of a religion.

Now don't misunderstand, I'm not advocating censorship at a societal level, anyone is free to share their opinions, but just like beleive that a church shouldn't be forced by law to marry a gay couple, A&E is free to hire and release people whose views are intolerant of others.

If I posted on facebook that I thought blacks or women were inferior and my company found out about that comment and it was reported in the paper or on the news, then keeping me employed, that is, taking no action to remove me is viewed as support for my comments which are, but cultural definition, racist sexist and in both cases intolerant.
 
HenryChinaski said:
The bottom line is that is was in their best interest of a business to sever ties with a public figure that they employ who made bigoted and hateful statements. Maybe Chick fil a will hire him.
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Apparently you are choosing to ignore the backlash showing that it wasn't in their best interest to fire someone over a false assertion.
 
ernst barkmann said:
that is not what i am discussing...i am saying you and the left, are not tolerant of other people who have different views then you...

Liberals can be bigoted people also.
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I support anyone's right to have whomever they wan't for whatever reason. I also support a network who ****cans a public figure that they employ who makes asinine statements about gays.
 
HenryChinaski said:
1.4 million bible thumpers, bigots and rednecks showing their support for the hatred of gays. Why would anyone be surprised?
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I love it when Libbos tirade against bigots, calling them bible thumpers and rednecks.

Watchout for the hypocrisy alert boys and girls...lol!
 
HenryChinaski said:
The bottom line is that is was in their best interest of a business to sever ties with a public figure that they employ who made bigoted and hateful statements. Maybe Chick fil a will hire him.
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Best interest of their business? Even the SPONSERS are boycotting A&E...lol!
 
csbrown28 said:
not that i'm sticking up for the "left", but when someone shows intolerance for someone elses free choices and then disguises their contempt in the guise of religion, then acts all but-hurt when people condemn them, then i'd say that the person/s that make those statements shouldn't be surprised when people react negatively. I don't condone the ridicule from those that oppose phil's statements, but in some respects i understand it.

The problem is that once a person chalks up their ideas to their religion or more specifically in our culture, christian religion, that statements made are suddenly free from scrutiny. Sorry, but if you say something intolerant of peoples free choices, you should accept the responsibility for those statements and not hide behind the unprovable assertions of a religion.

Now don't misunderstand, i'm not advocating censorship at a societal level, anyone is free to share their opinions, but just like beleive that a church shouldn't be forced by law to marry a gay couple, a&e is free to hire and release people whose views are intolerant of others.

If i posted on facebook that i thought blacks or women were inferior and my company found out about that comment and it was reported in the paper or on the news, then keeping me employed, that is, taking no action to remove me is viewed as support for my comments which are, but cultural definition, racist sexist and in both cases intolerant.
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one thing in a free society is that one citizen does not have to like another citizen or what they do.

My statement has to do with .."all people can be bigoted".....the idea that one group is totally understanding of all points of view, ..is nonsense.
 
A&E takes it in the shorts:

The overnight ratings are in for Duck Dynasty. One week ago, DD topped all of cable’s ratings with 8.885 million viewers. Last night, they free fell down the list to 2.521 million viewers.

That is a drop of 6.364 million viewers, or 71.6%.

http://www.newsninja2012.com/dynastypolls.html
 
Excon said:
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Apparently you are choosing to ignore the backlash showing that it wasn't in their best interest to fire someone over a false assertion.
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I'm sure that the backlash will be overwhelming and that A & E will be shaking in their boots. :lamo In six months no one's gonna remember this and tuning back into Intervention and storage wars.
 
HenryChinaski said:
I support anyone's right to have whomever they wan't for whatever reason. I also support a network who ****cans a public figure that they employ who makes asinine statements about gays.
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again you are on the wrong track.......i stated liberals are not tolerant of other people, ..........they can be just as bigoted as anyone else.
 
HenryChinaski said:
I'm sure that the backlash will be overwhelming and that A & E will be shaking in their boots. :lamo In six months no one's gonna remember this and tuning back into Intervention and storage wars.
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Maybe, maybe not.
For all you know She will issue a statement saying she was mislead to believe he equated something he did not equate, and then reverse her previous decision. That would be the only appropriate course of action knowing what we now know.
 
ernst barkmann said:
again you are on the wrong track.......i stated liberals are not tolerant of other people, ..........they can be just as bigoted as anyone else.
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I don't see where he's saying that. He's standing up for a business that made a business decision - as I did.

I really couldn't give a good hot damn if they canned him for not shaving. They have an obligation to uphold their own ideals as they see fit.
 
Gipper said:
I don't see where he's saying that. He's standing up for a business that made a business decision - as I did.

I really couldn't give a good hot damn if they canned him for not shaving. They have an obligation to uphold their own ideals as they see fit.
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you missed the first quote from him, i commented on....here it is..."1.4 million bible thumpers, bigots and rednecks showing their support for the hatred of gays. Why would anyone be surprised?"

i am simply stating liberals are bigots too.
 
Gipper said:
No, they did nothing wrong - just like MSNBC, Chick-Fil-A, and other institutions did nothing wrong when they decided to perform actions against someone that didn't follow their goals and mission statements. They all made business decisions - that's it.
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But we agree that whoever we're talking about has to deal with the consequences of those actions, agreed? Like many others, I think intolerance in the guise of religion is abhorrent. We live in a free society that generally supports the rights of consenting adults (humans, I can't believe I have to say this, but if I don't I'll get some ignorant example involving animals).

Can A&E's intolerance be equated with that of Chick-fil-A? I don't think so....
 
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apdst said:
I love it when Libbos tirade against bigots, calling them bible thumpers and rednecks.

Watchout for the hypocrisy alert boys and girls...lol!
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Where is the hate? Is bible thumper a derogatory term? Is redneck a derogatory term, or is it the context in which it's used?
 
Gipper said:
Gotta be more committed. :D

I still won't gas up at a Citgo, even though that bastard is dead - may he burn in hell.
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Easy enough to do as I doubt there are any Citgo's left. And let's not mention ALL major refineries bought Chavez oil to sell to Americans. But it does show that most boycotts are symbolic at best... :peace
 
csbrown28 said:
But we agree that whoever we're talking about has to deal with the consequences of those actions, agreed. Like many others, I think intolerance in the guise of religion is abhorrent. We live in a free society that generally supports the rights of consenting adults (humans, I can't believe I have to say this, but if I don't I'll get some ignorant example involving animals).

Can A&E's intolerance be equated with that of Chick-fil-A? I don't think so....
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I think so. As EB has stated above, the religious right doesn't own the rights to intolerance. Far from it.
 
HenryChinaski said:
1.4 million bible thumpers, bigots and rednecks showing their support for the hatred of gays. Why would anyone be surprised?
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disapproval does not equal hate, if that was so we would have to say liberals hate everyone but themselves
 
The fact that 1.4 million people would support a boycott of a network that removed somone for intolerance, proves to me one thing....It takes religion to persuade good people to support bad ideas.
 
Deuce said:
How many of them clicked "like" because they were forwarded that image with an inaccurate quote that made it look like A&E was firing him for basically nothing?
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They suspended him for basically nothing.
 
csbrown28 said:
The fact that 1.4 million people would support a boycott of a network that removed somone for intolerance, proves to me one thing....It takes religion to persuade good people to support bad ideas.
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Maybe it takes religion to make people see the real world.
 
Gipper said:
I think so. As EB has stated above, the religious right doesn't own the rights to intolerance. Far from it.
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Yea, I'm realizing that this is really an issue of A&E being intolerant of religious intolerance, which can be interpreted as A&E being intolerant of religion, or at least that's the way it will be portrayed by those that are religious.

The reality is that, if that's the case, we should see systemic intolerance of religion on A&E, if this is indeed a case of religious intolerance, and not just a case where A&E felt that his view of homosexuallity demonstrated intolerance that just so happened to be religious in nature.

*whew*
 
Excon said:
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Apparently you are choosing to ignore the backlash showing that it wasn't in their best interest to fire someone over a false assertion.
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Seems there is always a backlash, no matter the issue, action, or people involved. THE 64 dollah question is to what effect this backlash of which we speak...

Did the one million mom boycott of JC Penny over hiring a lesbian comic as a spokesperson have much affect?

How about the boycott Chik-fil-a over the anti-gay remarks by the owner?

No and NO

As to a false assertion.... guess that is in the eye of the be-scolder.... :peace
 
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