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Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

cpwill said:
Totally different. After all, It's a wedding, anniversary, or birthday. Not Christmas. :roll:


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No. The big difference being is that the person receiving gifts is asking for that to be a gift, not asking a person to give a donation in someone's honor.
 
Hamster Buddha said:
You ever seen one of those news articles that, no matter your political leaning, just pisses you off? Well, I found one:

Gov. Walker Urges Parents to Skip Toys and Send the Christmas Money to Him

That's right folks! Gov. Walker (Rep) of Wisconsin wants you to send that money you planned to spend for toys, to his political campaign. This is what the campaign email said:



Just... wow.
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What a misleading headline. I wonder how the Obama campaign would react if one of their staffers said something stupid and the quote was attributed to Obama? Whoever wrote the headline would probably never work in the news again.
 
Your Star said:
No. The big difference being is that the person receiving gifts is asking for that to be a gift, not asking a person to give a donation in someone's honor.
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:lol: yeah, that's totally different. Because one is asking people to prioritize Support Of The Leader over family celebrations and private exchanges, and the other is asking people to...... well, prioritize the Support of The Leader I LIKE over family celebrations and private exchanges :lol:

So... yeah. Totally different :lol:



No. Both are crass.
 
cpwill said:
:lol: yeah, that's totally different. Because one is asking people to prioritize Support Of The Leader over family celebrations and private exchanges, and the other is asking people to...... well, prioritize the Support of The Leader I LIKE over family celebrations and private exchanges :lol:

So... yeah. Totally different :lol:



No. Both are crass.
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You just don't want to see it.

Don't you see a difference in asking someone to donate in your name, rather than donating for someone in their name?
 
Your Star said:
You just don't want to see it.
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:) Oh, I see what you are claiming. What I am pointing out to you that what you are claiming is silly. ;) It is the invasion of a place in our society where politics does not belong that is the crass, rude, pushy refusal-to-accept-that-some-things-belong-outside-the-state, here, not the idea that campaigns should be pushing people having weddings and beginning their married lives together, vice people doing Christmas Shopping.
 
Funny, I don't remember this kind of outrage when Obama did it during his election campaign. Does anyone remember kids sending in their allowance to support him?
 
cpwill said:
:) Oh, I see what you are claiming. What I am pointing out to you that what you are claiming is silly. ;) It is the invasion of a place in our society where politics does not belong that is the crass, rude, pushy refusal-to-accept-that-some-things-belong-outside-the-state, here, not the idea that campaigns should be pushing people having weddings and beginning their married lives together, vice people doing Christmas Shopping.
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It's not silly, it's an important distinction.

I agree, I don't think it's all that appropriate, but one is far less odious. One is asking for yourself, the other is attempting to donate for someone else, which is just much more crass.
 
specklebang said:
Send it to me instead. That'll teach that mean sunbitch a lesson. PM me for mailing information. Minimum donation $10. May cause constipation.
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Isn't there a Dr. Seus story about this guy?
 
Of course, a difference between this and the Obama Event Registry is that Laura Wilson hasn't been fired.
 
Your Star said:
It's not silly, it's an important distinction.

I agree, I don't think it's all that appropriate, but one is far less odious. One is asking for yourself, the other is attempting to donate for someone else, which is just much more crass.
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.....no. The distinction is immaterial - as important as the color of the background of the message. Both seek to pressure people to prioritize politics over more important familial things. Frankly, given the relative importance, I'm not sure an argument couldn't be made that trying to invade someone's wedding is more odious than trying to invade someone's Christmas Shopping, but... :shrug: I'm fine simply saying both are crass attempts to shove politics where it does not belong.
 
bubbabgone said:
See ... first they find out the guy who did it was fired and now you have to go and spoil it with that.
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But according to notquiteright this is a devious plan unleashed by Scott Walker himself to deny children all over the world of their Christmas.

But the joke is on Walker because when all the Whos in Whoville start singing on Christmas day he will finally realize that the true meaning of Christmas isn't the whozonkers, dardinkers and roast beast.
 
cpwill said:
.....no. The distinction is immaterial - as important as the color of the background of the message. Both seek to pressure people to prioritize politics over more important familial things. Frankly, given the relative importance, I'm not sure an argument couldn't be made that trying to invade someone's wedding is more odious than trying to invade someone's Christmas Shopping, but... :shrug: I'm fine simply saying both are crass attempts to shove politics where it does not belong.
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We'll just have to agree to disagree. This has nothing to do with Obama being a Dem, because assuming one shares your political views and instead of giving them a Christmas gift you donate to a political campaign in their name, one which they may not support, is much more crass, because you are putting your wants over theirs, where when it is flipped, that does not occur.
 
Your Star said:
We'll just have to agree to disagree. This has nothing to do with Obama being a Dem, because assuming one shares your political views and instead of giving them a Christmas gift you donate to a political campaign in their name, one which they may not support, is much more crass, because you are putting your wants over theirs, where when it is flipped, that does not occur.
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Wherein you're asking someone to donate their money to a political cause they may not agree with, as opposed to using your own money to do so?
 
Your Star said:
We'll just have to agree to disagree. This has nothing to do with Obama being a Dem, because assuming one shares your political views and instead of giving them a Christmas gift you donate to a political campaign in their name, one which they may not support, is much more crass, because you are putting your wants over theirs, where when it is flipped, that does not occur.
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No, it has nothing to do with Obama being a Dem. For every stupid, crass, or offensive thing done or said by a Dem, there is something equally stupid, crass, or offensive that was said or done by a Rep. This thread proves it: Walker did it, Republicans counter by pointing out that the Obama camp did the same thing. That's the usual counter for the "someone from your party is an idiot!", it's the "Hey, someone from your party did it too!"

Neither party has a corner on crass, stupid, offensive, or idiotic.
 
Harshaw said:
Wherein you're asking someone to donate their money to a political cause they may not agree with, as opposed to using your own money to do so?
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"On My Special Day,
I Just Want You To Know,
If You Don't Let Me Direct Your Political Support,
You Don't Love Me" :)


Hallmark can start printing now.
 
cpwill said:
"On My Special Day,
I Just Want You To Know,
If You Don't Let Me Direct Your Political Support,
You Don't Love Me" :)


Hallmark can start printing now.
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Pretty much. If you're asking people to donate to a cause they don't believe in, you're putting them in the position of either doing that or not giving you a gift for your special day. That's quite "odious." But like you, I'm not going to argue that one's worse than other. They're both as bad for different reasons.
 
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