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John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

Love Canal is a distant memory for the GOP..
i get the impression that business's hate the epa for its regulations. but no one can seriously be against keeping our drinking water clean and unpolluted?
 
Reid has his hands full with the House rarely meeting, Obama, the filibuster, and his wild left--ist caucus led by E. Warren..
On a side, Rep. Paul Ryan and Sen. Patty Murray are making progress..
The best thing for D.C. is to be stealth and secretive, or both sides will just posture and break down in public, like with PPACA .
I never heard of that, but if it is true you have a very valid point. But even if Cantor refuses, let Reid take the initiative and do it himself. There are plenty of ups and very little down by doing so.
 
i get the impression that business's hate the epa for its regulations. but no one can seriously be against keeping our drinking water clean and unpolluted?

I sincerely agree with you unless the EPA goes way overboard. I think in the battle you mentioned in your previous post the house would take a licking. I might get peeved at the EPA for declaring a mud puddle that is only there for a couple of months a year a wetland area, but I don't know of any one who wants to do away with it completely. Rein it in some, yes. I am for that, but not for doing away with it. It is too valuable. I think they have made a bunch a asinine decision as my mud puddle. But where would we be without them?

What the people want is more common sense from the EPA and less insanity. But it is the insanity that gets the headlines.
 
Reid has his hands full with the House rarely meeting, Obama, the filibuster, and his wild left--ist caucus led by E. Warren..
On a side, Rep. Paul Ryan and Sen. Patty Murray are making progress..
The best thing for D.C. is to be stealth and secretive, or both sides will just posture and break down in public, like with PPACA .

I hope they are successful. Somethings are better handled behind closed doors and a cloak of secrecy.
 
He has a point. The senate has the power to amend, add, change, delete anything from those appropriations bills it likes or doesn't like. But in a way Reid is the obstructionist. He would much rather table all those bills than do what the senate is suppose to do with them. If he doesn't like something in a bill, delete it, add what he wants. It is actually the duty of the senate to do this rather than table all those bills. You wouldn't see a Byrd, a Mitchell or even a Daschel doing what Reid has done. The former three knew the senate's duty, the later one apparently does not.

But an ideal congress would be one that just passes the mandatory stuff and nothing else.

The "latter one" you refer to is apparently following the wishes of his boss, to whom party is more important than the good of the country, as we have seen. Reid is trying to keep the Senate in Democrat hands, and is adopting every means he can to help fellow Dems who face reelection in competitive States, where Obamacare may be a problem, hence his idea of using the nuclear option on voting in the Senate. Having a boss who publicly calls Repubs the "enemy" certainly doesn't hurt his case, since they both seem to think the same way! Meh!
 
Please make a note of this post as being as positive and honest as I can be..
I hope they are successful. Somethings are better handled behind closed doors and a cloak of secrecy.
 
i get the impression that business's hate the epa for its regulations. but no one can seriously be against keeping our drinking water clean and unpolluted?

I would suggest your assumption is correct. Too often the response to calls to reign in the EPA is met with the absurd response about something like Love Canal, and support for deadly pollution.

However, the EPA has grown far, far beyond it's original charter. It's a super agency capable of chartering to course of this country through regualatory fiat.

For example, next year, the EPA will unleash their "Environmental Justice" program.

Details are here: Environmental Justice | US EPA

This plan, which citizens will be hard pressed to stop, will be put into play, and there is nothing citizens can do to stop it.

That's the problem with the transformation to a Progressive Government run through regualtory rulings forced upon society by "Professional" regulators.

One had better hope they like whoever is running the regulatory ship, because the isn't much that can be done about it.
 
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Yea Bohner... Youve done "your work" by not doing anything, and by being the most obstructive congress ever. Good job! Something to be real "proud" of. [/FONT][/COLOR]

I'm cool with it. I'm cool with them doing as little as possible, except they didn't totally and irreversibly destroy Obamacare. Congress tends to ****up everything they touch. The less they do the better. I'm sure you're all about passing as many laws as possible. Well I'm sorry we didn't achieve the socialist dictatorship you dream of in one year. Better luck next time.
 
which is something that certain media loving politicians cannot survive without these days.

I suppose you are right. The ones who do all the work are the ones you rarely hear from. The loud mouths give all other politicians a bad name.
 
Then you're good with the House only working 114 days next year, 12 less than this year..
Not to mention all the lost days when the House refuses to match up with ANY Senate schedule .
I'm cool with it. I'm cool with them doing as little as possible, except they didn't totally and irreversibly destroy Obamacare. Congress tends to ****up everything they touch. The less they do the better. I'm sure you're all about passing as many laws as possible. Well I'm sorry we didn't achieve the socialist dictatorship you dream of in one year. Better luck next time.
 
I would suggest your assumption is correct. Too often the response to calls to reign in the EPA is met with the absurd response about something like Love Canal, and support for deadly pollution.

However, the EPA has grown far, far beyond it's original charter. It's a super agency capable of chartering to course of this country through regualatory fiat.

For example, next year, the EPA will unleash their "Environmental Justice" program.

Details are here: Environmental Justice | US EPA

This plan, which citizens will be hard pressed to stop, will be put into play, and there is nothing citizens can do to stop it.

That's the problem with the transformation to a Progressive Government run through regualtory rulings forced upon society by "Professional" regulators.

One had better hope they like whoever is running the regulatory ship, because the isn't much that can be done about it.

um, this is from the epa's link you provided.

Plan EJ 2014 is not a rule or regulation. It is a strategy to help integrate environmental justice into EPA's day to day activities.

and i all i can find is progress reports and action plans, i don't see anything that indicates that the EPAS intent is motivated by malice.
 
The "latter one" you refer to is apparently following the wishes of his boss, to whom party is more important than the good of the country, as we have seen. Reid is trying to keep the Senate in Democrat hands, and is adopting every means he can to help fellow Dems who face reelection in competitive States, where Obamacare may be a problem, hence his idea of using the nuclear option on voting in the Senate. Having a boss who publicly calls Repubs the "enemy" certainly doesn't hurt his case, since they both seem to think the same way! Meh!

I had hopes Obama would have learned from Clinton when he lost the congress in 1994. Clinton switched strategies and tactics very quickly and became very adept at getting his agenda through congress. Obama didn't learn a thing from Billy boy after 2010 happened. The most successful presidents at getting their agenda through congress are the ones who work across the aisle and have one or two people, perhaps more in the opposition party that they can go to when the things get tough. I am afraid this current president has burned all his bridges there. Reid didn't help matters with the nuclear option either.
 
Please make a note of this post as being as positive and honest as I can be..

LOL, I got you. I don't mind you rants and raves, when you are in that mood I usually leave you alone. You got quite a head on your shoulders as far as politics go when not ranting and raving. A knowledge I like to pick and harvest.
 
I had hopes Obama would have learned from Clinton when he lost the congress in 1994. Clinton switched strategies and tactics very quickly and became very adept at getting his agenda through congress. Obama didn't learn a thing from Billy boy after 2010 happened. The most successful presidents at getting their agenda through congress are the ones who work across the aisle and have one or two people, perhaps more in the opposition party that they can go to when the things get tough. I am afraid this current president has burned all his bridges there. Reid didn't help matters with the nuclear option either.

it seems to me that the only thing that would satisfy the most vocal conservative critics is for obama to govern as a far right president and destroy the liberal institutions he supports.
 
You were correct about Perot..None of the trade deals has worked out well..
This latest fast track treaty is being trashed heavily on the Ed Show and by Union folks..
This may help the deal with the GOP, reverse psychology..But Obama wants it..
I don't suppose a USA Company competing against a Communist nation is a fair deal .
I suppose you are right. The ones who do all the work are the ones you rarely hear from. The loud mouths give all other politicians a bad name.
 
Then you're good with the House only working 114 days next year, 12 less than this year..
Not to mention all the lost days when the House refuses to match up with ANY Senate schedule .

Yes I am, according to the Constitution they are only required to meet once per year. Relax man, we'll achieve total socialism soon enough.
 
Satisfy the most vocal conservative critics of Obama--Resigning is too easy on him..
Even impeachment doesn't top what they did to Clinton, but they can hold 3 years of kangaroo courts for the 2016 election..
No, they want to make him twist and turn with blockades at each interval..
They want to spread lies on Obama and then say Obama is 'taking lying to a new level' Sen. Cornyn on Politico .
it seems to me that the only thing that would satisfy the most vocal conservative critics is for obama to govern as a far right president and destroy the liberal institutions he supports.
 
So you're okay with ignoring the advances in technology as previous Einsteins would have..
Yes I am, according to the Constitution they are only required to meet once per year. Relax man, we'll achieve total socialism soon enough.
 
So you're okay with ignoring the advances in technology as previous Einsteins would have..

Hmm, you seem to be drifting off course. Advances in technology......yeah.....what do you do for a living?
 
This is a great thread for me to **** on, thanks to Dem socialist..
I need to get to your new updates on your blog..
FOX clips are great with "impeachment" talk and the "War on Christmas"..
FOX is like living down-wind of the Oil refinery in Cheyenne, Wyoming on far east side of town..
LOL, I got you. I don't mind you rants and raves, when you are in that mood I usually leave you alone. You got quite a head on your shoulders as far as politics go when not ranting and raving. A knowledge I like to pick and harvest.
 
it seems to me that the only thing that would satisfy the most vocal conservative critics is for obama to govern as a far right president and destroy the liberal institutions he supports.

I don't think he should pay any attention to those vocal conservative critics or congressmen for that matter. It is the middle that counts, that group of the electorate this is known as independents. Forget the far right, put them out of his mind as he will never please them. But what I was getting at and I will show my age. Eisenhower had one of the closed working relationships with LBJ, then the Democratic Senate Majority leader as any president I know of. They had strategy meetings at the White House at least 3 times a week as to how to get IKE's agenda through congress. Then JFK and LBJ worked real close with Everitt Dirksen, then the Republican minority leader of the senate to accomplish the same thing and by pass a lot of conservative Southern Democrats.

Reagan and Tip O'Neal had many feuds, but worked closely to get what then President Reagan wanted through his Democratic controlled house and Reagan gave Tip quite a lot of what he wanted in return. Even Bush the first had Rostinkowski to work with. Clinton would talk with First Dole and then Lott, also with Gingrich to see what was possible and what wasn't. Clinton didn't have that close working relationship that other presidents had, but at least the GOP was willing to give and take with him in order to get things passed through congress.

The thing here is that IKE, JFK, LBJ, Reagan and to a lesser extent Clinton made the first move to develop a working relationship. It after all is the president's job to reach across the aisle first. Obama has never done this. His first two years he didn't need to, his huge majorities in both chambers made reaching across the aisle unnecessary to get what he wanted through congress. Then 2010 happened, if there was a time to reach across the aisle to find someone, anyone for him to work with, that was the time. Now IMO it is way too late.
 
Meet for one day in Constitution???????
Even ernst doesn't go that far..
I suppose they could go conference call with web-cam and computer set-up .
Hmm, you seem to be drifting off course. Advances in technology......yeah.....what do you do for a living?
 
You were correct about Perot..None of the trade deals has worked out well..
This latest fast track treaty is being trashed heavily on the Ed Show and by Union folks..
This may help the deal with the GOP, reverse psychology..But Obama wants it..
I don't suppose a USA Company competing against a Communist nation is a fair deal .

I don't either. Clinton wanted NAFTA and the WTO too. I could never figure that out.
 
This is a great thread for me to **** on, thanks to Dem socialist..
I need to get to your new updates on your blog..
FOX clips are great with "impeachment" talk and the "War on Christmas"..
FOX is like living down-wind of the Oil refinery in Cheyenne, Wyoming on far east side of town..

The 1 Dec update number 4 has been posted. Personally I think January and February are the months to watch. Then the primaries, once names are placed next to an office, that changes the dynamics. I have been watching CNN a lot more lately than FOX. I never liked MSNBC outside of Mathews and when he went south so to speak I stopped watching him. Now I like to catch THE FIVE on FOX, but that is for Bob Beckel. a Carter holdover but one who knows politics inside and out. I also hopes Nate Silver comes back on line before the election next year. He promised he would, but he will be with ESPN instead of the NYT.
 
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