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Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

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are they different from the taliban terrorists that destroyed ancient buddha statues ? the way they struggle with the islamists shouldnt justify islamists's claims that islam isnt tolerated.





AngolaPress, ”their temples will be closed until the new pronunciation in the case”. The Minister of Culture, Rosa Cruz e Silva, said that a law related to liberty of religious assembly should be revised “as a way of fighting ‘vigorously’ the coming up of new religious congregation whose religious assembly are contrary to our habits and customs to Angolan culture.”

The Muslim Community of Angola (CISA) considers that the government is undertaking religious persecution and preventing the realization of religious cults. So is referred in the caption of a video posted on Youtube last September by Coque Manuel which shows a mosque in the city of Moxico being destroyed:







VIDEO: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola · Global Voices
 
are they different from the taliban terrorists that destroyed ancient buddha statues ? the way they struggle with the islamists shouldnt justify islamists's claims that islam isnt tolerated.

AngolaPress, ”their temples will be closed until the new pronunciation in the case”. The Minister of Culture, Rosa Cruz e Silva, said that a law related to liberty of religious assembly should be revised “as a way of fighting ‘vigorously’ the coming up of new religious congregation whose religious assembly are contrary to our habits and customs to Angolan culture.”

The Muslim Community of Angola (CISA) considers that the government is undertaking religious persecution and preventing the realization of religious cults. So is referred in the caption of a video posted on Youtube last September by Coque Manuel which shows a mosque in the city of Moxico being destroyed:


VIDEO: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola · Global Voices



Mornin Medusa.
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What is it that bothers you about this? Whom would you say is more known for destroying religious works and burning down Holy structures?

Another question that should be asked.....why are these African tribes giving up their own Gods and religion to become converts of Islam and then identify themselves as a Muslim. Why would they want to follow those that cannot lead the way Spiritually?
 
Mornin Medusa.
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What is it that bothers you about this? Whom would you say is more known for destroying religious works and burning down Holy structures?

Another question that should be asked.....why are these African tribes giving up their own Gods and religion to become converts of Islam and then identify themselves as a Muslim. Why would they want to follow those that cannot lead the way Spiritually?

l really dont know but angola is full of muslims and not every muslim is islamist you know ,MMC ? brutalities are usually comdemned whether they come from islamist or not ,fascists or not etc..

nobody was christian or muslim before christ ,lets destroy the churches ?

l believe so called democratic western governments should intervene in angola why because they claim to be democrat.


acting like the ones that you comdemn isnt the right way to destroy an extremism.
 
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l really dont know but angola is full of muslims and not every muslim is islamist you know ,MMC ? brutalities are usually comdemned whether they come from islamist or not ,fascists or not etc..

nobody was christian or muslim before christ ,lets destroy the churches ?

l believe so called democratic western governments should intervene in angola why because they claim to be democrat.


acting like the ones that you comdemn isnt the right way to destroy an extremism.



Yet it takes their Cleric leaders and others religious leaders to rally and call forth this type of aggression. If their holy men wont preach peace. Then that's where I think we start to deal with the problem.

Religious Leader in democracies get charged by the law for inciting riots and racial prejudice and hatred. It is like this for any religious leaders in Democracies.
 
A regime, be it the Taliban or whatever crackpots are running Angola now, destroy religious structures for the sole reason of exerting power.

It was a heinous abuse of authority, not to mention history, when the Taliban destroyed the Buddhist sculptures in Afghanistan, and it's a heinous abuse of authority and history for the Angolans to do this. Whether you agree with the religion or not, those sites are steeped in history and should be kept intact.
 
l believe so called democratic western governments should intervene in angola why because they claim to be democrat.

However, as far as "Reasons to intervene in a sovereign nation's affairs" go, desecrating religious sites is low on my list. Could be worse. They could be genociding actual people, rather than just crushing their idols.
 
However, as far as "Reasons to intervene in a sovereign nation's affairs" go, desecrating religious sites is low on my list. Could be worse. They could be genociding actual people, rather than just crushing their idols.

l am glad we dont live in middle ages

especially as jews ,muslims ,women , etc..
 
l am glad we dont live in middle ages

especially as jews ,muslims ,women , etc..

The thought of many Westerners is that the Muslims in the Middle East are trying to draw us back into the middle ages.
 
The thought of many Westerners is that the Muslims in the Middle East are trying to draw us back into the middle ages.

it wasnt saddam ,qaddafi or assad who supported the islamist militants in the process of arabian spring

it was CIA

so teh west wants to exploit the ME after drawing it back to middle ages because you cant control and exploit the educated people unless bigotry keeps them ignorant
 
If this is the worst thing happening in Africa right now, we're all in damn good shape.
 
it wasnt saddam ,qaddafi or assad who supported the islamist militants in the process of arabian spring

it was CIA

so teh west wants to exploit the ME after drawing it back to middle ages because you cant control and exploit the educated people unless bigotry keeps them ignorant

It is becoming increasingly important to separate the Obama government and the actions of that government from the American people.
 
A regime, be it the Taliban or whatever crackpots are running Angola now, destroy religious structures for the sole reason of exerting power.

It was a heinous abuse of authority, not to mention history, when the Taliban destroyed the Buddhist sculptures in Afghanistan, and it's a heinous abuse of authority and history for the Angolans to do this. Whether you agree with the religion or not, those sites are steeped in history and should be kept intact.

Well, not really in terms of history. The mosques in Angola have the historical value of a McDonalds. It's an abuse of freedom of religion. It doesn't really approach the destruction of the Buddhist works in Afghanistan.

These are slightly more significant than the shack mosque in the video: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan
 
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Mornin Medusa.
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What is it that bothers you about this? Whom would you say is more known for destroying religious works and burning down Holy structures?

Another question that should be asked.....why are these African tribes giving up their own Gods and religion to become converts of Islam and then identify themselves as a Muslim. Why would they want to follow those that cannot lead the way Spiritually?

This is news because it's a "man bites dog" story. Muslims destroying churches and synagogues have reached the level of "man bites sandwich".
 
It is becoming increasingly important to separate the Obama government and the actions of that government from the American people.

huh ?

l even seperate the messiah junior moron's actions from the people in america! why did you need to make such a stupid post ?
 
Well, not really in terms of history. The mosques in Angola have the historical value of a McDonalds. It's an abuse of freedom of religion. It doesn't really approach the destruction of the Buddhist works in Afghanistan.

These are slightly more significant than the shack mosque in the video: Buddhas of Bamiyan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

lets destroy new churches built in turkey ?

you all would comdemn it

what a pity

the west's democracy
 
This is news because it's a "man bites dog" story. Muslims destroying churches and synagogues have reached the level of "man bites sandwich".

not muslims,islamists

teh west is developed but people are still ignorant
 
lets destroy new churches built in turkey ?

you all would comdemn it

what a pity

the west's democracy

I would deride the decision as I do here, but I wouldn't compare destruction of churches built within the last decade to blowing up millenia old works of craftmanship that would deprive a poor country of tourism.
 
l believe so called democratic western governments should intervene in Angola. Why? Because they claim to be democrat.

I don't know about Western governments in general but I know that the United States does a great deal for Angola as it is.

We provide technical assistance in the development of their oil industry and economy more generally through a number of grants and government programs. Through USAID we assist with civil governance, democratization, agricultural productivity, maternal and child health, HIV/AIDS prevention, education, workforce development; through the Department of Defense we assist with de-mining and weapons abatement programs.

What more would you have us do?

Send combat troops into Angola in order to enforce the law and keep the peace?

That's not really the role of the U.S. military, and besides, if we did it you know full well that the developing world, especially Arab/Muslim nations would be out burning American flags and protesting in the streets about how we're an evil empire bent on global domination.

And look, we're not talking about a massive war of ethnic/religious cleansing or genocide here.

We're talking about a couple guys bulldozing a single corrugated steel building that some video on the Internet claims is a Mosque. It appears that they're going about the demolition in a peaceful manner.

If that building really is a Mosque, and Muslim people are being persecuted, then I agree with you that the Unites States should condemn that behavior and pressure Angolan authorities to knock it off.

But I've also read several reports of small upstart religions springing up all over Angola in very poor communities and milking gullible, ignorant, provincial people for all they're worth and then picking up stakes and moving on to the next town to do the same thing all over again once they're wrung the population dry. It seems as though it's become a real problem because Angola doesn't have the kind of social safety net to support people being left destitute in that way. And from what I've read this isn't just a Muslim issue. Christians and leaders of, I guess they would be, "cult" religions are doing the same thing.

Are you sure that what we're seeing is actually a Mosque being torn down?

Are you sure that it's a well established and thoroughly legitimate Mosque?

And not some itinerant "Muslim" preacher who is just part of that scene that is going around taking advantage of people?

Do you know that this is part of some widespread conspiracy and not just an isolated incident in one small town in a country filled with hundreds or thousands of small towns?

In other words, is this something that is truly worthy of becoming an international incident?

Finally, I do agree with you that a great many Americans are totally ignorant of the difference between Islam and Islamism, and even more ignorant of the difference between nationalist Islamism and the kind of Salifi Qutbist Jihadin Islamism that results in anti-western terrorism.

But that's a two way street.

You are clearly as ignorant of the tremendous amount of aid, assistance, and guidance that America pours into the developing society and government of Angola, and probably most other places around the world too.

As quick as some Americans are to poke a stick into Islam, it seems like you're equally quick to poke a stick into America.
 
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huh ?

l even seperate the messiah junior moron's actions from the people in america! why did you need to make such a stupid post ?

I haven't ever seen that separation in any of your posts. I have seen constant blame of "imperialist" America and the West with sympathy for the Obama Liberals.

Maybe you need to be more clear in your broad brush Western accusations.
 
Whether you agree with the religion or not, those sites are steeped in history and should be kept intact.

I'm neither a Buddhist nor a Muslim, but desecration of either of their works - especially if said works are several thousands of years old - is evil in its own right.
 
are they different from the taliban terrorists that destroyed ancient buddha statues ? the way they struggle with the islamists shouldnt justify islamists's claims that islam isnt tolerated.





AngolaPress, ”their temples will be closed until the new pronunciation in the case”. The Minister of Culture, Rosa Cruz e Silva, said that a law related to liberty of religious assembly should be revised “as a way of fighting ‘vigorously’ the coming up of new religious congregation whose religious assembly are contrary to our habits and customs to Angolan culture.”

The Muslim Community of Angola (CISA) considers that the government is undertaking religious persecution and preventing the realization of religious cults. So is referred in the caption of a video posted on Youtube last September by Coque Manuel which shows a mosque in the city of Moxico being destroyed: VIDEO: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola · Global Voices

But, as usual, these claims may not even be true. Angola Denies It Banned Islam, Destroyed Mosques

I wonder who should we trust more. I've never known a Muslim to lie.
 
Good find. Adds to the discussion. I take it you've never known the tin pot ("democratically elected", LOL) dictator of a small African nation to lie either?
I wasn't being altogether truthful.

Muslims like to paint themselves as victims, despite their creating terrorism and suppression all over the world. Of course they lie, and will continue to do so when it suits them. Sometimes it just gets out of hand.
 
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