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Owen Lattimore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In March 1950, in executive session of the Tydings Committee, Joseph McCarthy accused Lattimore of being the top Soviet agent, either in the US, in the State Department, or both.[17] The committee, chaired by Senator Millard Tydings, was investigating McCarthy's claims of widespread Soviet infiltration of the State Department. When the accusation was leaked to the press, McCarthy backed off from the charge that Lattimore was a spy but continued the attack in public session of the committee and in speeches.

This isn't revisionism. McCarthy, like the blovating **** he was - accused an innocent man of being a communist spy and then had to eat his words. I'm not surprised you'd stick up for him though. Anything to be an ignorant contrarian right apdst?
 
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Hope she sues them for retaliatory discharge.

Due to a number of rightwing decisions by the rightwing Supreme Court and due a lot of anti-worker legislation passed by the business lobby, this won't happen. Employers are allowed to fire workers for badmouthing their business.

Sorry, conservatives, you made your bed on this one. Ironic, isn't it.

In any case, this all sounds like a Hannityville story -- pure hokum.
 
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Owen Lattimore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



This isn't revisionism. McCarthy, like the blovating **** he was - accused an innocent man of being a communist spy and then had to eat his words. I'm not surprised you'd stick up for him though. Anything to be an ignorant contrarian right apdst?

This is from your source, hatuey...

Meanwhile, accusations were made, which later became public. On 14 December 1948, Alexander Barmine, former chargé d'affaires at the Soviet Embassy in Athens, Greece, advised Federal Bureau of Investigation agents that Soviet GRU Director Janis Berzin had informed him prior to Barmine's 1937 defection that Lattimore was a Soviet agent, an allegation Barmine would repeat under oath before the Senate McCarran Committee in 1951

Who's ignorant, now?

Why don't you bitch about Pat McCarran? Oh...wait...McCarran was a Democrat!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_McCarran#Senator
 
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My company has made it very clear that there are certain people authorized to deal with the media. If I talked to the media - on record, from my company - without authorization, I'd be fired.

And if I said negative things about my company - whether to a radio station, a newspaper, on Facebook - pretty sure I'd be fired for that too.

Now I guess if she wasn't explicitly told, she might have some reason to ask for a reconsideration. But really - this is something everyone should know by now.
yes, but she didn't seek out the media, she was doing her job, answering a phone call.
 
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Due to a number of rightwing decisions by the rightwing Supreme Court and due a lot of anti-worker legislation passed by the business lobby, this won't happen. Employers are allowed to fire workers for badmouthing their business.

Sorry, conservatives, you made your bed on this one. Ironic, isn't it.

In any case, this all sounds like a Hannityville story -- pure hokum.

I didn't say I wanted her to win, just that I hoped she would sue, and for the 15,056,456th time I am not a "conservative" I am an anti-federalist. States can be as glittery gay lesbian liberalish as they want for all I care :doh
 
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yes, but she didn't seek out the media, she was doing her job, answering a phone call.

Yeah Hannity pretty much set her up.
 
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The point he was trying to make to make is that "we the people" have a right to answers, and that is entirely meaningless to the reason she was fired. She was fired for the same reason anybody who breaks any company's P-M/R policy would be. It's common sense to not speak badly of your superiors REGARDLESS of what field you work in. This lady should have known that. Hannity giving her charity is nothing more than trying to make up for being the asshole who egged her into getting fired. All so he could get media ratings and a paycheck from sponsors.
her job is to give out information, that's what she did.
Granted it wasn't what her superiors wanted her to say, but she was doing her job
 
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Yeah Hannity pretty much set her up.
it does happen, but she is kind of a customer service rep, or possily a liason type position.

When someone calls in for info - she either could have shut up (not really doing her job) or provided it. She was sumarily fired for talking to the media, and it isn't clear if she really know that was beyond her responsibility.

The way she was fired ( if it's to believed, and absent other info is all we have) is a damning as the firing itself
 
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I didn't say I wanted her to win, just that I hoped she would sue, and for the 15,056,456th time I am not a "conservative" I am an anti-federalist. States can be as glittery gay lesbian liberalish as they want for all I care :doh

Yeah, conservatives love tort lawyers when it serves their purposes. Thanks for admitting another disingenuous rightiwing argument.

In any case, this is Hannity. It's probably all fake and snopes will expose it in a week or two. That's how the rightwing noise machine works -- put out fake news and hope nobody can expose it for a while.
 
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It's pretty obvious that she was fired for talking to the media about her job and was bad-mouthing her employer. I don't really see how anyone could look at it any other way without revealing themselves to be ignorant partisans.

edit: and I listened to the call btw. I knew she was going to be fired as soon as Hannity mentioned that he was calling.

For those who don't know, every call center I've ever been to or had friends work at mentioned that there's no talking to the media or allowing for the recording of phone calls. This woman was denser than a brick if she thinks that it was appropriate to talk to the media.

No. a call center cannot disallow a recording of a phone call, just like the caller has to give permission to record "for quality assurance" granted it may vary by state law.

Talking to the media would have to be part of the Standards of Proceedure, and she would have had to had a clear understanding she was in violation.
This doesn't appear to be the case? Although that is unclear
 
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It still doesn't change the fact that the people who work for contracters are not public servants and do not work for you

Those who are performing a service for the government are working on something related to the business of this country and are being paid by the taxpayers. You can't call them public servants in the since that they work for a government agency but you can't call them private sector either for they are being paid by the taxpayers. Because the federal government has been allowed to become this behemoth monstrosity, outsourcing to private contractors has exploded. Taxpayers funnel hundreds of billions of dollars a year into the chosen companies' pockets, about $80billion of which goes to tech companies. This is cronyism and very unfair to other companies in the private sector who make it or break it on their own. We've reached a stage of outsourcing of just about everything and it's damaging in multiple levels. Another level of damage is it is ripping off the taxpayers. Obamacare is a stellar example of this ,.... a global tech conglomerate CGI, which was responsible for the bulk of the work for the Obamacare website was paid very well, for what?

The left side of the aisle looks to government to be all things to all people. They created a program for just about everything and then some. With the launch of every new program, they farm out the work to corporations. If the Federal government would have stuck to what it was Constitutionally bound to, all work could be done in house much cheaper to the Taxpayer. There would be no blurring between what is public and what is the private sector.
 
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Those who are performing a service for the government are working on something related to the business of this country and are being paid by the taxpayers.

No, they are being paid by the private corporation that employs them, not the govt and not taxpayers. They are not public servants. They do not work for you
 
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No, they are being paid by the private corporation that employs them, not the govt and not taxpayers. They are not public servants. They do not work for you
What part don't you get? The corporation is getting the money from the taxpayers to pay for the jobs it creates to fulfill the request of the government. I did not call them public servants but because they are getting paid through taxpayer dollars they are neither private sector employees either. And if they are doing something for the government you are damn wrong because government works for the taxpayer. So if you are a taxpayer they are working for you. End of story. End of the nonsense.
 
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Put it this way:

Imagine working for a company that sells candy. Your job is to answer the phones and someone calls and asks you if your customers like your candy and you tell them "No. Everybody hates it"

How long do you expect to keep your job?

If I was the owner of the candy store and I was able to pass a law saying that everybody had to buy my candy, I wouldn't give a **** whether my customers liked it or not.
 
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Why are you personally glad she was fired?

Do yo have a personal stake in what she did or didn't do?
She makes all customer service representatives look like bumbling idiots. With her removed from that position she is no longer able to assist in ruining the reputations of hard working individuals.
 
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What part don't you get? The corporation is getting the money from the taxpayers to pay for the jobs it creates to fulfill the request of the government. I did not call them public servants but because they are getting paid through taxpayer dollars they are neither private sector employees either. And if they are doing something for the government you are damn wrong because government works for the taxpayer. So if you are a taxpayer they are working for you. End of story. End of the nonsense.

They are not public service nor are they being paid with taxpayers' dollars. And they don't work for the govt and they don't work for you.

If you think this woman works for you, then you keep sending her a salary.
 
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It's remarkable how conservatives don't support corporations right to hire and fire when it suits their political agenda. Who knew that so many right-wingers were secret supporters of unions?
 
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No. a call center cannot disallow a recording of a phone call, just like the caller has to give permission to record "for quality assurance" granted it may vary by state law.

Every call center I've worked at has had a policy where it was against procedure to allow individuals to record calls. Either the person on the other line agrees to end the recording or I've been told to disconnect. Now I can't stop people from secretly recording a phone call but that's a different situation. I don't know if all centers have such a policy but I know all of the ones I've been a manager at have had such policies.

Furthermore, because of the nature of information given someone can accidentally record private health information depending on the quality of their recorder. In order to protect customer privacy we disallow all recordings. This is not difficult to understand when you're not a blind partisan. When you have sensitive information to protect you don't allow recordings in order to protect client and customer info.

Furthermore the legality of such recordings is a nightmare and common sense is to avoid such a headache by disallowing all calls from being recorded by someone calling into a call center.
Recording Phone Calls and Conversations | Digital Media Law Project
 
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I always think it's amusing how Republicans refer to "King"/"Lord"/"Messiah"/etc. Obama with such reverence.

No, that's what you do......you confuse yourself.
 
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Every call center I've worked at has had a policy where it was against procedure to allow individuals to record calls. Either the person on the other line agrees to end the recording or I've been told to disconnect. Now I can't stop people from secretly recording a phone call but that's a different situation. I don't know if all centers have such a policy but I know all of the ones I've been a manager at have had such policies.

Furthermore, because of the nature of information given someone can accidentally record private health information depending on the quality of their recorder. In order to protect customer privacy we disallow all recordings. This is not difficult to understand when you're not a blind partisan. When you have sensitive information to protect you don't allow recordings in order to protect client and customer info.

Furthermore the legality of such recordings is a nightmare and common sense is to avoid such a headache by disallowing all calls from being recorded by someone calling into a call center.
Recording Phone Calls and Conversations | Digital Media Law Project

I work in a call center. Every call is recorded for security purposes.
 
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I work in a call center. Every call is recorded for security purposes.

Yep, the call center records the calls, and the person on the other line is not allowed to do so.
 
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She was employed by the government and an American citizen asked her a question, which means her job was to tell the truth.

I'm not convinced Hannity is a citizen because I haven't seen his birth certificate. And she wasn't a government employee. She's employed by a private firm.
 
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I'm not convinced Hannity is a citizen because I haven't seen his birth certificate. And she wasn't a government employee. She's employed by a private firm.

A private firm working for the government, dealing with unclassified material.

Edward Snowden isn't in this much trouble...lol!
 
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her job is to give out information, that's what she did.
Granted it wasn't what her superiors wanted her to say, but she was doing her job

The government has demonstrated they do not want to ever give out information either on Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS, or this latest billion dollar boondoggle. Of all the people who should be fired or held accountable it turns out to be the 26-year-old Black mother of two who was just answering questions over the phone, but breaking the ongoing code of silence.

Meanwhile the higher ups just gloat, laugh and pocket millions, and get the support from the ideologically driven (aka useless idiots) as well.
 
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