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Obamacare Operator Fired After Taking Call From Hannity; Hannity To Give Her A Year's

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reinoe said:
It's pretty obvious that she was fired for talking to the media about her job and was bad-mouthing her employer. I don't really see how anyone could look at it any other way without revealing themselves to be ignorant partisans.

edit: and I listened to the call btw. I knew she was going to be fired as soon as Hannity mentioned that he was calling.

For those who don't know, every call center I've ever been to or had friends work at mentioned that there's no talking to the media or allowing for the recording of phone calls. This woman was denser than a brick if she thinks that it was appropriate to talk to the media.
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Hannity asked Ms. Davis if she received training for her position. Ms. Davis responded "yes". Then he asked if during this training was she instructed not to talk to anyone from the media and the answer was "no". Hannity refused to give out the name of the government contractor. I would have liked to known that bit of information.

You can listen to the interview at
Obamacare Hotline Operator Fired for Taking Call From Sean Hannity
 
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Hatuey said:
Lol - my knee-jerk reaction? I'm not the one going on about how she's some hero truth teller. She broke basic professional ethics regardless of how you look at it. She would have been fired in any work environment whether or not she was telling the truth.

Spare me your fluffing of Hannity's qualities. By the end of the week, she'll still be without a job, and he'll find someone else to get his ratings from. :shrug:
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When asked during her training as a hot-line operator was she told not to take calls from the media? Her answer was "No". Look I know this whole rollout for the big awaited Obamacare is an embarrassment for the left. After all, the left is always telling us they are the smartest pencils in the box and know what's best for all of us. After all didn't Obama promise top IT czars to ensure that taxpayers got the most effective, innovative, cutting-edge and secure technology for their money? :lol:

This mess isn't the fault of Ms. Davis but incompetence from the top down to the government contractors hired.
 
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When you are hired in to a company large or small typically everyone is given a copy of the company rules to review and sign stating they have read and understand the rules. I guess this Obammy sweat shop does not. I am shocked it is not a union shop. I'm sure Obammy will step in here and get her back on the job.
 
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clownboy said:
Oh c'mon. ANY private company would have fired her for doing the same thing.
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But, this isn't a private company.
 
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Hatuey said:
Yeah, I'm sure Obama held committees and financially as well as socially ruined people who spoke badly of Obamacare. I don't expect you to have any proof of Obama being worse than McCarthy, but hey - anything flies when it comes to bull**** claims and you're known for making quite a few of them.
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McCarthy was a great American, who helped stop the communist infiltration of America.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
No, you know why she says she was fired.
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She was fired because she embarrassed The Messiah.
 
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rhinefire said:
When you are hired in to a company large or small typically everyone is given a copy of the company rules to review and sign stating they have read and understand the rules. I guess this Obammy sweat shop does not. I am shocked it is not a union shop. I'm sure Obammy will step in here and get her back on the job.
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You think so? Hmmmm. I was thinking that this administration has already alerted the IRS to target Ms. Davis and the 26,000 she received from Hannity. :lol:
 
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sawdust said:
Not her opinion. She stated anecdotal evidence based on her experience.
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Nope, she stated an opinion as she was asked what people thought of the program - and she answered without any other evidence than her opinion of what they thought. :shrug:
 
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apdst said:
McCarthy was a great American, who helped stop the communist infiltration of America.
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Yeah, I know, and David Duke is your friend. We get it apdst. You're a white Anglo Saxon Protestant. No need to rub it in everyone's face all the time.
 
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vesper said:
When asked during her training as a hot-line operator was she told not to take calls from the media?
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Do you have a job? Please tell me you don't. It would be the only way to explain why you don't know simple professional ethics and protocol. For example, at my job, it's pretty obvious that whomever answers the phone passes the call to the appropriate department. I don't handle accounting. If somebody calls my line and starts going on about numbers and fiscal quarters, I don't start discussing my company's information with them. I move them to the appropriate department within the company.

Then again, I actually have a job - so I understand these basic concepts. Why don't you?
 
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I know this will be difficult for you to accept. Hannity asked her if she spoke to anyone who liked the process. She answered that none of the people she spoke to liked the process. The people who responded to her expressed an opinion. She answered factually about the people she spoke to. She was not expressing an opinion. She was relating the frustration of the people that she spoke to about the process, each of whom spoke to her directly. She was in a position to relate the opinions of people who expressed them to her. She did not express an opinion of her own.

Listen to the interview before you respond so that you won't be uninformed.
 
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sawdust said:
She was not expressing an opinion.
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As she gave her perspective of what people thought of the program - she indeed was. :shrug:
 
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Hatuey said:
Do you have a job? Please tell me you don't. It would be the only way to explain why you don't know simple professional ethics and protocol. For example, at my job, it's pretty obvious that whomever answers the phone passes the call to the appropriate department. I don't handle accounting. If somebody calls my line and starts going on about numbers and fiscal quarters, I don't start discussing my company's information with them. I move them to the appropriate department within the company.

Then again, I actually have a job - so I understand these basic concepts. Why don't you?
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Public servants work for you and I. My opinion is that the code of ethics public servants operate under are different than those of the private sector. My opinion has been codified into law by whistle blower statutes. I'm not claiming this woman was a whistle blower but I am claiming that the standards by which she should be judged are different than those of private sector employees.
 
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Hatuey said:
As she gave her perspective of what people thought of the program - she indeed was. :shrug:
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If I asked you how many people called you at your work and said hello, and you could remember how many people who greeted you with hello and you answered "all of them", would you be expressing an opinion or would you be recanting an accurate account of everyone who said hello to you?
 
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sawdust said:
Public servants work for you and I. My opinion is that the code of ethics public servants operate under are different than those of the private sector. My opinion has been codified into law by whistle blower statutes. I'm not claiming this woman was a whistle blower but I am claiming that the standards by which she should be judged are different than those of private sector employees.
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This is so far detached from the concept of professional responsibility - it's almost silly to try and respond to it. Sigh....

Public servants don't operate under a different code of ethics. They don't even operate under a different code of professional ethics. They are held professionally accountable for their actions just like everyone else. And even if she was a whistleblower - I love how Libertarians seem to use words that have nothing to do with their meaning - she still isn't immune from getting fired.
 
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Hatuey said:
Do you have a job? Please tell me you don't. It would be the only way to explain why you don't know simple professional ethics and protocol. For example, at my job, it's pretty obvious that whomever answers the phone passes the call to the appropriate department. I don't handle accounting. If somebody calls my line and starts going on about numbers and fiscal quarters, I don't start discussing my company's information with them. I move them to the appropriate department within the company.

Then again, I actually have a job - so I understand these basic concepts. Why don't you?
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The woman was hired to answer questions on the hotline Obamacare set up. In her interview with Hannity she stated past jobs she worked at were in the restaurant industry as a waitress. The government contractor hired her feeling she qualified for the job. Her training did not include dealing with calls with the media. She obviously didn't think she had done something wrong and was shocked when two people escorted her upstairs into a room filled with people and locked the doors behind them where she was told she was terminated and was escorted to her locker where someone emptied it for her and was escorted to the door.
 
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sawdust said:
If I asked you how many people called you at your work and said hello, and you could remember how many people who greeted you with hello and you answered "all of them", would you be expressing an opinion or would you be recanting an accurate account of everyone who said hello to you?
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Lol, you're being disingenuous. This lady doesn't remember how many calls are made to her office all day. Which is why Hannity made the question purposely vague. Unless you can show she does - her statement is a simple opinion on how she thinks some people view the program. :shrug:
 
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vesper said:
The woman was hired to answer questions on the hotline Obamacare set up.
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Yes, about the workings of the program. Not give media interviews about the program. You never answered any of my questions. Do you have a job? It doesn't sound as if you do. If a media company calls your restaurant, do you let one of the waiters handle the call? Or should they pass it up to the proper department for it to be handled?
 
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Hatuey said:
This is so far detached from the concept of professional responsibility - it's almost silly to try and respond to it. Sigh....

Public servants don't operate under a different code of ethics. They don't even operate under a different code of professional ethics. They are held professionally accountable for their actions just like everyone else. And even if she was a whistleblower - I love how Libertarians seem to use words that have nothing to do with their meaning - she still isn't immune from getting fired.
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The first amendment protects political speech. It really doesn't cover you calling me names, it was never intended for that purpose. Workers in public service, in the course of their jobs, are all communicating with political speech because they are an extension of the government. The woman may have said something you don't like but the first amendment doesn't protect us when we agree. That's why they operate under a different code of conduct than private sector workers.

Hannity is covering her wages for a year and his publicity has gotten her job offers in Pensacola I believe. He probably saved the government from a wrongful dismissal lawsuit.
 
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Hatuey said:
Lol, you're being disingenuous. This lady doesn't remember how many calls are made to her office all day. Which is why Hannity made the question purposely vague. Unless you can show she does - her statement is a simple opinion on how she thinks some people view the program. :shrug:
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you knew for fact what this lady remembered. How does it feel to be omniscient?
 
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MaggieD said:
Why did they fire her?
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It's an interesting story, I'm just now trying to read a bit up on it. From what I'm understanding they claim that their employees weren't supposed to speak to the media. The issue is that she's claiming this was never stated in training or at any other point, AND there's a reasonable question of the difference between going to a media outlet or giving comment on your own time and simply answering a phone at the workplace and answering the job related questions being asked to you.

Ultimately, as long as it's a state where firing someone for essentially any reason is okay then there's nothing really "wrong" here from a legal stand point because to my understanding this is a private entity that's simply government funded. She did something that embaressed the company; even if she was being truthful, even if she thought she was doing okay, that's a reasonable issue that could cause a boss to fire you. At the moment it seems REALLY knee-jerk and horribly dumb to do from a PR perspective (far worse than the initial call imho), but not necessarily "wrong" from a legal sense.

However, I'm still kind of reading up on it as I just heard about it.
 
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Thrilla said:
interesting conversation we are seeing here.
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Agree entirely, it's always fun watching how people on both sides of the aisle will find ways to rationalize why a particular situation "is different" when a political wrench is thrown into the gears of a discussion that typically runs smoothly and predictably.
 
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Lutherf said:
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Next stop, reeducation camps.

Obama should put all his rules into an easily searchable and easy to understand format. Perhaps a little red book with all the answers would work....
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These folks are hired to answer questions. She did the American public a huge favor.

Hannity showed immense class.


MaggieD said:
Why did they fire her?
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Maggie,
I heard the calls and what a nice lady. She simply answered the questions asked honestly. Is that disallowed? In Obama's Amerika it is.

Then they brought her into the office, didn't reprimand her, just sent her packing. I wonder what effect that has on the remainder of the "staff"?

If something like this had happened to say someone during the Bush/Cheney years... WHOA! The race card and every other card would be pulled out and played without end.
 
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Hatuey said:
Yes, about the workings of the program. Not give media interviews about the program. You never answered any of my questions. Do you have a job? It doesn't sound as if you do. If a media company calls your restaurant, do you let one of the waiters handle the call? Or should they pass it up to the proper department for it to be handled?
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I am self employed/semi retired not that it is any of your business. I've worked a lot of years managing a business. So stop with your condescending comments.

What part don't you get? This was a hotline set up for the operators to answer questions. The woman didn't think she did anything wrong because she did not have training that specified what to do when dealing with the media. That 1-800 number was for EVERYONE to call in if they had any questions.
 
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clownboy said:
Though she spoke the truth as she knew it, she would have been fired from any other business for the same actions.
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What do you mean? Most employers are thrilled when you badmouth them in the press!
 
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