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Pew: Tea Party support at record low

as usual, you have been given an answer and rather than discuss what was clear, you refuse to accept it. The fact is, sufficient guidance has been given for the merits of the issue to be discussed. In other words, you have what you need and I will not waste my time attempting to comply with silly requests for more information.
 
as usual, you have been given an answer and rather than discuss what was clear, you refuse to accept it. The fact is, sufficient guidance has been given for the merits of the issue to be discussed. In other words, you have what you need and I will not waste my time attempting to comply with silly requests for more information.

Why do you Americans hate each other so much? Those that oppose the bagger party are really on your side. Once they are eliminated the libertarian brand will have a resurgence of popularity on libertarian principles alone. Gone will be the elements of racism and hate that have perverted your label.

And then the libertarian party will rise again to it's former prosperity and may even get a libertarian elected as president. Ya think? LOL
 
The House can only initialize funding measures that the Senate must also pass. If they don't get Senate approval that House can't fund ANYTHING. Surely you saw that very clearly when the House tried to open parts of Govt. for photo ops. They all died in the Senate.

So what you're really saying is that your entire argument is disengenuous and that the democrats really are responsible for the government shut down. I got it.
 
So what you're really saying is that your entire argument is disengenuous and that the democrats really are responsible for the government shut down. I got it.

The fact that the House would not approve anything the Senate sent them makes them the ones that shut down the Govt. They failed to make a referendum with the Senate which is their job as legislators.
 
The fact that the House would not approve anything the Senate sent them makes them the ones that shut down the Govt. They failed to make a referendum with the Senate which is their job as legislators.

There's nothing easier than refuting someone with their own words. Here--argue with yourself over this:

The House can only initialize funding measures that the Senate must also pass. If they don't get Senate approval that House can't fund ANYTHING. Surely you saw that very clearly when the House tried to open parts of Govt. for photo ops. They all died in the Senate.

I'll just pull up a chair and watch the show.
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Does the ACA specify certain statutory deadlines ... yes.
Has the Obama Administration missed half the deadlines mandated in the 1st 3 years of the Act ... yes.
Do Executive Orders explain the missed deadlines ... no.

They did explain them. The Treasury said they wouldn't be able to meet the deadlines required and listed multiple cases of where postponements were issued by executive order in the past.
 
Your sardonic view of the Constitution as the source of chaos is particularly jarring given the state of Obamacare at this time.
As for Mass, if I lived there and didn't like Romneycare I could have moved to another state ... no such option exists with Obamacare and it's made much worse by Obamacare's onerous 7 foot tall pile of regulations.
No getting around it ... this is what a giant step toward redistribution looks like.

My view of the constitution has been the practice since the founding. Judicial review is a result of interpretation of the constitution.
 
There's nothing easier than refuting someone with their own words. Here--argue with yourself over this:



I'll just pull up a chair and watch the show.
:popcorn2:

They died in the Senate like all the House bills because the House is not the sole decider in our form of Govt. They must pass bills that the Senate will also pass or they are failures. The House failed at governing and we all paid the price.,
 
My view of the constitution has been the practice since the founding. Judicial review is a result of interpretation of the constitution.
Yes ... interpretation ... not cursory incidental reference in order to arrive at the desired conclusion.
 
They did explain them. The Treasury said they wouldn't be able to meet the deadlines required and listed multiple cases of where postponements were issued by executive order in the past.

How many deadlines were missed?
 
They died in the Senate
like all the House bills because the House is not the sole decider in our form of Govt. They must pass bills that the Senate will also pass or they are failures. The House failed at governing and we all paid the price.,

The ones in question dealing with the shutdown weren't even taken up ... so "died in the Senate" is misleading ... you didn't intend to mislead, did you?
 
Why do you Americans hate each other so much? Those that oppose the bagger party are really on your side. Once they are eliminated the libertarian brand will have a resurgence of popularity on libertarian principles alone. Gone will be the elements of racism and hate that have perverted your label.

And then the libertarian party will rise again to it's former prosperity and may even get a libertarian elected as president. Ya think? LOL

that is so whacked I figured I am am reliving Hunter S Thompson's fear and loathing the USA while living in a third rate has been nation
 
They died in the Senate like all the House bills because the House is not the sole decider in our form of Govt. They must pass bills that the Senate will also pass or they are failures. The House failed at governing and we all paid the price.,

:sinking:
 
...you have to realize, 30% of the polled public still believe that GWB was a good Presidentblic out there are completely whacked out.

Or still believe that you don't agree with them.
 
They died in the Senate like all the House bills because the House is not the sole decider in our form of Govt. They must pass bills that the Senate will also pass or they are failures. The House failed at governing and we all paid the price.,

I would say BOTH the House and Senate failed along with the president on this one. All sides needed to work together on passing a budget and all failed.
 
I would say BOTH the House and Senate failed along with the president on this one. All sides needed to work together on passing a budget and all failed.

I think it was a major fail by the president to say at the outset that he refused to negotiate. The Senate didn't seem to want to negotiate anything either. The House did pass bills that would keep the government open, although they knew full well that Harry Reid wouldn't even have a vote on them. All political manuvering.
 
Read more: Pew: Tea Party support at record low - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

Its sad it took people so long to have a unfavorable view of these people. Hopefully they will never again play a roll in our politics. [/FONT][/COLOR]

The above statement is plagiarized from the pasty attached to free thinkers like Lenin and Stalin. Describe what "our politics" are today and list the reasons you are so proud of our corrupt, lying thieving, government officials.
 
The above statement is plagiarized from the pasty attached to free thinkers like Lenin and Stalin. Describe what "our politics" are today and list the reasons you are so proud of our corrupt, lying thieving, government officials.

:lamo What in gods name are you talking about
 
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