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House Republicans seek probe of D.C. monument closures[W:120]

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I see it is you who do not understand.

No I completely understand. You are telling me about your imaginary land that you live in and it is not the real world. In the real world the republicans are getting hammered because they refuse to infiltrate their message into new media and to appreciate new voter views. This is the last dieing breaths of your party. They have chosen to ride their train to the end of the line and to stand fast in the light of their own destruction. It will hurt them and you, but you have done so much to be an ass that no one gives a damn anymore about how much you are going to cry. Little victories are all you have left. This will not be the last stand for change. Obama has failed to bring it but the people still want it so they will have it. They are not running back to the old ways of shame and hate. Your people are dying. Enjoy your small little hole because you will be burried in it if you do not wake up and embrace the new age.
 
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When did we ratify an amendment giving the federal govt the power to aquire state land to run as parks?

Absurd argument that if you do not know you really are not supposed to be in this conversation. I can help some people but if that is your question you need to start way back in the begining of things like sociology, government, and law. No, I am not going to spend time chasing down a video that explains the basics of government like 2+2=4 type fundamentals. If you thought that was going to work and you really do not know who administers federal land I cannot help you. You are not even worth my time.
 
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one thing I would like to know is how you close a stone structure, that does nothing.
Bingo!

My theory: And this goes along with closing White House tours over the sequester. It's a purposeful intent by some to both distract and inconvenience average people in their relatively insignificant lives in the hopes that they'll complain and blame the other side. Let's face it, most people have "Twitter-type" attention spans, and "don't like politics", so they're not really caring if the Bureau of Basket Weaving is shut down... but stand back if you thwart their kid's 3rd grade class from seeing a huge stone Abe Lincoln sitting in a chair, then there'll be hell to pay.
 
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Bingo!

My theory: And this goes along with closing White House tours over the sequester. It's a purposeful intent by some to both distract and inconvenience average people in their relatively insignificant lives in the hopes that they'll complain and blame the other side. Let's face it, most people have "Twitter-type" attention spans, and "don't like politics", so they're not really caring if the Bureau of Basket Weaving is shut down... but stand back if you thwart their kid's 3rd grade class from seeing a huge stone Abe Lincoln sitting in a chair, then there'll be hell to pay.

even the Grand Canyon is closed, though the state of AZ said they would pay the cost to keep it open, the federal government refused.
 
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Perhaps he will also investigate this 'idiocity'...

http://www.argusleader.com/article/...e-stirs-anger-in-S-D-?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1

Really? Cones along a public highway to prevent viewing of a National Monument...And I'm sure they used a contractor to place the cones (not even gov't employees)...
I cannot recall the last time I read anything so childish and absurd. *sigh* Sometimes I wonder how the human species even survives.
 
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even the Grand Canyon is closed, though the state of AZ said they would pay the cost to keep it open, the federal government refused.

Kind of plays to my point. If open, nobody would be inconvenienced. Nobody would be able to blame the other side. Nobody would put pressure on the other side.
 
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Absurd argument that if you do not know you really are not supposed to be in this conversation.

sawy, me dum dum, no get big words. what mean fundementals?
 
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Word games. Another aspect of the tea party syndrome.

Let's pretend you don't need staff to keep government monuments, parks, etc. open. Let's pretend.

Umm...they're open spaces. They're ALREADY open.

And just for future reference, I'm not a part of the Tea Party. I think they're idiots myself.
 
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Let's pretend parks don't require staff to function. Let's pretend.

The GOP shuts down the government and they investigate why government functions have ceased. A new level of tea party dishonesty. And of course everybody sees through it, so it's perfect to watch you defend it.

That is not what they are investigateing at all. And that is where you are spinning. Your own articles states the reason, which you apparently ignored in order to spin what was actually happening.

And they are open areas, particularly the OPEN OCEAN does not require ANY staff to be open. The monuments and such need staff to maintain, not blockade. You do know what an open park and open monument IS don't you?
 
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I owe you a well thought-out response.
With 4 baseball game, a NFL game today, the regular NHL season started and exhibition NBA, sports fans are in Heaven.
I pick up my wife in an hour or so at work and we have some errands to attend to.
Ed Schulz on Sirius 117 will help with the drive, along with the Iphone.
This is one of their last grabs at power. No longer can moderate republicans stand and say we are not part of this extreme so please do not vote for my oppoment. The fact that they have fix noise and Puff Limbaugh doesn't mean much when the audience is not the middle ground. That is the problem with them. Fanatics tend to read the news and everything on faux, but is that message getting to the middle, and it is not. It is firing up their base which is a slipping majority. They really do not get it that when you wstrike a no compromise pose you will not take the reasonable middle no matter how much fight you have in you. They are just turning things to the dems because peopl;e are going to realize a stupid government is better than no government because of this action. In 2014 they cannot say let us make everything republican because obama sits on top and they cannot get beyond that until 2016. EWven impeachment will not help because they will just have biden. So the next election they have pushed the curve to the left while leaving the mass of people in the center, and asfter all of this recovery gets squashed due to their meddling people are going to be sick of hearing it. They have been whining way too long to pretend this is just one issue they are fighting the good fight on. This is their spoiled fit because the dems have gotten some small things done that they do not like. This is the pushback from the right trying to tell the country they will crash it if we do not buckle under and make it a christian right nation, and the methodology to do this should be removed. It gives wauy too much power to whoever is the speaker and that just is not right. I hope that people stay focussed when this all ends and we get something into place that allows for a bill to be presented without the speaker's approval. There is always an override to one man's stupidity, and in this case there is not one that is good enough and it needs to be changed.
 
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I owe you a well thought-out response.
With 4 baseball game, a NFL game today, the regular NHL season started and exhibition NBA, sports fans are in Heaven.
I pick up my wife in an hour or so at work and we have some errands to attend to.
Ed Schulz on Sirius 117 will help with the drive, along with the Iphone.

if your going to site Ed Schulz, when are you going to criticize conservatives for Rush Limbaugh, becuase we are dealing to the opposite sides of the same coin.
 
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So this is what happens as i have stated earlier:
When you block budget conferences a whole year, try to repeal a law around 40 times when you know its not going to get anywhere, and you wait till the last second to try to pass a budget which includes approving Keystone pipeline, eliminating funding for PP, broad Tax Reform, defunding Obamacare, means testing for social security, and many various other things and the Democrats literally get nothing but keeping sequester cuts (which they dont like in the first place) and the gov stays open. Thats not a deal, thats not even governing. Thats trying to use the gov as a political tool. Then they want to use short term CR's to keep the government open for a short time so they can do the same thing all over again.
But this time the story has continued now they wanna keep parts only they want open instead of opening the whole entire thing up. I mean i applaud the WW2 vets going to the memorial i dont applaud when the Republicans go over there and use it for cheap political points but when they go and vote you can go look at their voting records and you will see they arent really "pro veteran" like they want to act like... Pretty pathetic.
 
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Yes he is. The Republicans have been willing to negotiate and the Dems have not.

What the Republicans in the House are doing is no different than the Dems in the Senate. BOTH parties want what they want and BOTH have put us into this mess.

The only thing I will agree with you on is the ACTUAL government shutdown (not the actions that lead up to it) is solely on the Dems as they are choosing what to close down and some it is rather silly. That actions leading up to the actual government shutdown is BOTH party's faults.
 
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I owe you a well thought-out response.
With 4 baseball game, a NFL game today, the regular NHL season started and exhibition NBA, sports fans are in Heaven.
I pick up my wife in an hour or so at work and we have some errands to attend to.
Ed Schulz on Sirius 117 will help with the drive, along with the Iphone.

Sounds like fun for you, have a good time.
 
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And the people chosen to administer the care of public lands are the government. You cannot do whatever you want on public land. I can not go into a park and just start shooting my gun anywhere I so please. I cannot light the park on fire. I cannot build a treehouse in the park no matter how much I want to. The government gets to decide what goes on on public lands not you. You have only the rights to use it as they allow. It does not belong to you and that is a twisted view.

Wrong again. It is the People that administer the care of public lands via elections and taxes. The People decide what can and cannot go on in public lands. Not the government. The government is suppose to do what the People tells it to do. Not the other way around.

And I never once said that it belongs to me. That is nothing more than twist and spin. I said that WE own the land. Not the government. "WE" meaning every civilian and citizen of this country. Not you. Not me. Not Joe Blow down the street. "WE".

And it is even more twisted to think that the Government are the Masters and The People are the servents.
 
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No I completely understand. You are telling me about your imaginary land that you live in and it is not the real world. In the real world the republicans are getting hammered because they refuse to infiltrate their message into new media and to appreciate new voter views. This is the last dieing breaths of your party. They have chosen to ride their train to the end of the line and to stand fast in the light of their own destruction. It will hurt them and you, but you have done so much to be an ass that no one gives a damn anymore about how much you are going to cry. Little victories are all you have left. This will not be the last stand for change. Obama has failed to bring it but the people still want it so they will have it. They are not running back to the old ways of shame and hate. Your people are dying. Enjoy your small little hole because you will be burried in it if you do not wake up and embrace the new age.
Poor tererun, still not understanding and still living in a fabricated existence in his own little fantasy world and only wanting something so you can get yours, never minding that it will hurt this country. That is called being myopic.

No tererun, I am telling you that you are wrong. I have pointed out where your thoughts are wrong.
I am telling you that the crap you spew, is wrong.
I am telling you that you living in your fantasy world causes you to be blind to the truth.

You even fail at understanding that "they" are not my party.
So stop with your absurd lies.
 
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What the Republicans in the House are doing is no different than the Dems in the Senate. BOTH parties want what they want and BOTH have put us into this mess.
It is gamesmanship as usual.
But there is a difference here. The Republicans have been willing to compromise. The Dems haven't.
That makes the Dems more at fault.
 
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It is gamesmanship as usual.
But there is a difference here. The Republicans have been willing to compromise. The Dems haven't.
That makes the Dems more at fault.

No, the Republicans aren't. The compromise would be to take Obamacare off the table and the Repulbicans aren't wanting to do that. And the Dems want to keep Obamacare and they aren't willing to compromise there.

The one issue of Obamacare NIETHER side is wanting to budge, so it is BOTH their faults. The Republicans if they REALLY cared about the debt and spending, would take Obamacare off the table and then go for other cuts on the Dems side. Thay aren't. And I'm not saying the Dems are any better, they BOTH are at fault.

Neither side is working towards a compromise.
 
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got trolling??
I'll be glad to respond to your post, which was on mine to another, when it doesn't have an attack, which mine didn't to the other.
if your going to site Ed Schulz, when are you going to criticize conservatives for Rush Limbaugh, becuase we are dealing to the opposite sides of the same coin.
 
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So this is what happens as i have stated earlier:
When you block budget conferences a whole year, try to repeal a law around 40 times when you know its not going to get anywhere, and you wait till the last second to try to pass a budget which includes approving Keystone pipeline, eliminating funding for PP, broad Tax Reform, defunding Obamacare, means testing for social security, and many various other things and the Democrats literally get nothing but keeping sequester cuts (which they dont like in the first place) and the gov stays open. Thats not a deal, thats not even governing. Thats trying to use the gov as a political tool. Then they want to use short term CR's to keep the government open for a short time so they can do the same thing all over again.
But this time the story has continued now they wanna keep parts only they want open instead of opening the whole entire thing up. I mean i applaud the WW2 vets going to the memorial i dont applaud when the Republicans go over there and use it for cheap political points but when they go and vote you can go look at their voting records and you will see they arent really "pro veteran" like they want to act like... Pretty pathetic.

So that justifies blocking off public spaces how?
 
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So that justifies blocking off public spaces how?

Because the gov runs those areas and they are not considered essential. Look everyone knew this was part of the deal when the gov shuts down...
 
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So that justifies blocking off public spaces how?

This is one of a few times I have agreed with the right. The shutdown is purposely being done to maximize suffering IMO. Not all the shutdowns (and the way they have been done) is necessary.
 
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Because the gov runs those areas and they are not considered essential. Look everyone knew this was part of the deal when the gov shuts down...

They don't need to cone off a public parking space. It simply is not needed to be done. Even you can admit that right? Some of this stuff is just plain stupid, there is no reason to shut down a parking lot.
 
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No, the Republicans aren't. The compromise would be to take Obamacare off the table and the Repulbicans aren't wanting to do that.
:naughty
No.
Taking it off the table is not compromising. That is capitulation.
Reducing your demands is compromising. Which is what the Republicans have been doing.


And the Dems want to keep Obamacare and they aren't willing to compromise there.
Making them at fault.


The one issue of Obamacare NIETHER side is wanting to budge, so it is BOTH their faults. The Republicans if they REALLY cared about the debt and spending, would take Obamacare off the table and then go for other cuts on the Dems side. Thay aren't. And I'm not saying the Dems are any better, they BOTH are at fault.

Neither side is working towards a compromise.
The only side not budging and not attempting to compromise has been the Dems.
 
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Look everyone knew this was part of the deal when the gov shuts down...

As it is not, you are blowing smoke.
 
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