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Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Because people have freedom of association as guaranteed by the constitution...

I don't think that covers criminal activities such as murdering people or drug dealing or am I missing something?
 
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I heard a really good report on NPR about how violent crime is going up because El Chapo Guzman has set up Chicago as the Sinaloa Cartel's "hub" for their midwest drug distribution network.

That's due to Guzman being a Latin King and one of the Main Crowns Known as one of the Corona's, in his Country. The Latin Kings are an Organization that goes well beyond the traditional definitions of Gangbangers. As they have Politicians, Judges, Military Commanders, and all in other countries as well as here in the US.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

All I know is that if that **** were happening in most any suburb around the city of Chicago? The National Guard would be called out . . . martial law would be declared . . . and they'd be kickin' ass all over the county until it stopped.

Nah not really Maggie.....it took Capone's Nephew to run out all the Biker gangs back in the late 60s and 70s out of Sin City/Calumet City. After they burned down two bars and kept getting into. Capone's Nephew sent the word any Bikers caught wearing colors would be shot on the Spot. Told them he didn't care about them partying and hanging out at all the strip clubs. But the killing and destroying of property was over with. Whether they liked it or not.
 
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Yesterday in beautiful Chicago in FOUR Hours 18 people were shot!! In the 60's the cops were accused of brutality, that has now changed to gang brutality. Can this be fixed or will the number continue to soar? What good does talking about this do?

you cant talk about the root cause because you will be labeled as racist for doing so
 
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Nah not really Maggie.....it took Capone's Nephew to run out all the Biker gangs back in the late 60s and 70s out of Sin City/Calumet City. After they burned down two bars and kept getting into. Capone's Nephew sent the word any Bikers caught wearing colors would be shot on the Spot. Told them he didn't care about them partying and hanging out at all the strip clubs. But the killing and destroying of property was over with. Whether they liked it or not.

what is the difference is those bikers where white anything that is done to crack down on gang related crime now days will be seen as racist because the vast majority of gang members are minorities
 
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Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

My own mom would have lived homeless under a bridge before she would have subjected me to the likes of these horror-filled neighborhoods. These people? Think that's normal? Afraid to take back their own streets? "I saw nothing...I know nothing." What's wrong with them??

Because it's easier to pass the buck and blame someone else for all of their problems.

These neighborhoods won't change until they begin to accept even a minimal level of responsibility and that seems a pipe dream at this point.
 
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what is the difference is those bikers where white anything that is done to crack down on gang related crime now days will be seen as racist because the vast majority of gang members are minorities

That's not true.....they had black bikers and that was why the bars were burnt down. This was on the Strip which was Right off the State line and Border of Cal City Illinois and Hammond Indiana.

Moreover Tony Arcardo used Jeff Fort, who was the Leader of the Blackstone P Rangers and in the 70'-80's. The Stones as they were called were the largest of all the Street gangs. To get control of the gang wars and public killings. Arcardo called in Fort and had him Broker the Peace.

Which also truthfully at the time Fort was against Crack and Crank.....so after their businesss dealing and the peace was put into affect for the larger Organizations. The Money was sectioned out. Yet Most kept the damper on crack and crank. Wherein it never really took off around here. That's not to say it wasn't around and people weren't dealing it.....though, getting caught doing so would be far more dangerous if caught by Fort and his people. rather than the Cops.
 
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Because it's easier to pass the buck and blame someone else for all of their problems.

These neighborhoods won't change until they begin to accept even a minimal level of responsibility and that seems a pipe dream at this point.

caused by decades of the left blaming and encourage them to blame and not take responsibility for anything it is all whiteys fault
the left has created this monster and we all will suffer because of it
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

That's not true.....they had black bikers and that was why the bars were burnt down. This was on the Strip which was Right off the State line and Border of Cal City Illinois and Hammond Indiana.

Moreover Tony Arcardo used Jeff Fort, who was the Leader of the Blackstone P Rangers and in the 70'-80's. The Stones as they were called were the largest of all the Street gangs. To get control of the gang wars and public killings. Arcardo called in Fort and had him Broker the Peace.

Which also truthfully at the time Fort was against Crack and Crank.....so after their businesss dealing and the peace was put into affect for the larger Organizations. The Money was sectioned out. Yet Most kept the damper on crack and crank. Wherein it never really took off around here. That's not to say it wasn't around and people weren't dealing it.....though, getting caught doing so would be far more dangerous if caught by Fort and his people. rather than the Cops.

it was different times back then you can do common sense police work with out being called a racist now days if cops go into a minority neighborhood to stop crime because that is where the majority of crime is they are called racist for shaking down a minority neighborhood
 
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caused by decades of the left blaming and encourage them to blame and not take responsibility for anything it is all whiteys fault
the left has created this monster and we all will suffer because of it

At some point the right has to take some responsibility for allowing it to continue though.

A foot should have been firmly put down a very long time ago and much of the future of our country will depend on if that foot ever gets put down.
 
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it was different times back then you can do common sense police work with out being called a racist now days if cops go into a minority neighborhood to stop crime because that is where the majority of crime is they are called racist for shaking down a minority neighborhood

Well being Chicago and back in the day with the Irish mob.....and many cops being Irish. One can see how that was played upon. Still it doesn't matter if they send in Cops that are black and or minorities. They can't really go with the racism call out. Moreover Chicago does have its past History over racial rioting.
 
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At some point the right has to take some responsibility for allowing it to continue though.

A foot should have been firmly put down a very long time ago and much of the future of our country will depend on if that foot ever gets put down.

How so for the Right? They can't do anything but maybe win the Governors Office. Can't run in certain districts due to the candidate having to be black or hispanic. Can't gain hold over neighborhoods. Can't vote them out of office.

So other than all out war. There is no way for the Right to take control or set anything back to whats Right.

Edit.....well other than for the Dems to implode. Not likely that will happen for another hundred years.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Thirteen people, including a 3-year-old boy, were shot on the South Side Thursday night.
According to the Chicago Police the shooting happened in the 1800 block of W 51st street in the Back of the Yards neighborhood and appears to be gang related.
Chicago Fire officials called an Emergency Medical Services Plan II, sending at least 10 ambulances to the scene and transported 10 people and the child to area hospitals.
One man drove himself to Little Company of Mary Hospital and was treated and released police said.
Police later said a total of 13 people were shot, the boy, two teens, and 10 adults, with the 3-year-old boy the most seriously wounded in critical condition.
The boy suffered a gunshot wound to the head and is at Mount Sinai Hospital.
Family members tell the Chicago Tribune the boy’s name is Deonta’ Howard.
Deonta’–pronounced Deontay–nicknamed Tay Man, has a dislike for haircuts, one cousin said.
“He didn’t like haircuts because he has a big head,” said Porsche Chester, a cousin of the boy’s. “But he is extremely smart. He didn’t have that (head) for nothing.”
Chicago Police continue to investigate and nobody is in custody for the shooting.
Check back for updates.

  • The 3-year-old boy, shot in the ear, in critical condition at Mount Sinai;
  • A 17-year-old girl, shot in the foot, condition stabilized at Holy Cross Hospital;
  • A 15-year-old boy shot in the arm, stabilized at Holy Cross;
  • A man, 27, shot in the leg and wrist, serious condition at Mount Sinai;
  • A man, 24, shot twice in the stomach, serious condition at Mount Sinia;
  • A man, 21, shot in the leg, serious condition at Mount Sinai;
  • A man, 41, shot in the buttocks, serious condition at John H. Stroger Jr. Hospital;
  • A woman, 33, shot in the shoulder, condition stabilized at Northwestern Memorial Hospital;
  • A man, 31, shot in the buttocks, condition stabilized at Northwestern;
  • A woman, 23, shot in the foot, condition stabilized at St. Anthony Hospital;
  • A man, 37, shot in the leg, in good condition at Stroger;
  • A man, 25, shot in the knee, in good condition at Northwestern;
  • And a man, 33, who drove himself to Little Company of Mary Hospital in Evergreen Park with a gunshot wound to the leg and who was treated and released.

And the beat goes on.


That's those good gun restrictions in action!
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

How so for the Right? They can't do anything but maybe win the Governors Office. Can't run in certain districts due to the candidate having to be black or hispanic. Can't gain hold over neighborhoods. Can't vote them out of office.

So other than all out war. There is no way for the Right to take control or set anything back to whats Right.

Edit.....well other than for the Dems to implode. Not likely that will happen for another hundred years.

We could have done stuff at the federal, state, and local level before it got the way it is.

The right still could but they spend so much time tilting at windmills that it's hard for them to win moderates and swing voters.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

Im really happy to see this news report. SURELY this is the kind of incident needed to motivate all good city organizers and those that really really really really really care to get in and start addressing gang violence and the culture that breeds such incidents.
 
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Exactly. I cannot understand why good people choose to live in these war zones. Why they don't rise up enmass and kick the bangers out of the neighborhood. Why they don't step up and identify these thugs and get rid of them. The Wild West did it with vigilante law enforcement.

With what? They have strict gun laws in Illinois that only the law-abiding follow.

The Wild West vigilante enforcement you speak of.........they did it with guns. Tons of them.
 
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With what? They have strict gun laws in Illinois that only the law-abiding follow.

The Wild West vigilante enforcement you speak of.........they did it with guns. Tons of them.

It doesn't just take guns. It takes a willful desire to clean up a neighborhood. Every one of these gang bangers is someone's son, brother, boyfriend. Their parents know who they are . . . their other brothers and sisters who who they are. They're living somewhere and, in most cases I'd bet, someone else is paying their rent.

I say women alone could clean up a neighborhood. No guns. Give them no quarter. They'll stop or they'll leave. Until they are unwilling to live in these cesspools they call home and are committed enough to turn in their own families, rat on their friends, throw their asses out, nothing is going to change.

IMO, nobody outside of their communities gives a rat's ass as long as they just keep killing their own.
 
Re: 13 People Including a Child Shot in Chicago Last Night!!

It doesn't just take guns. It takes a willful desire to clean up a neighborhood. Every one of these gang bangers is someone's son, brother, boyfriend. Their parents know who they are . . . their other brothers and sisters who who they are. They're living somewhere and, in most cases I'd bet, someone else is paying their rent.

I say women alone could clean up a neighborhood. No guns. Give them no quarter. They'll stop or they'll leave. Until they are unwilling to live in these cesspools they call home and are committed enough to turn in their own families, rat on their friends, throw their asses out, nothing is going to change.

IMO, nobody outside of their communities gives a rat's ass as long as they just keep killing their own.

Oh, I agree with you.

The biggest problem I see, outside of the obvious issue of an embarassing lack of responsible fathers, is that they do not promote and hold up people that should be seen as pillars of the community. Anyone within who speaks up and lives an exemplary life is shunned, silenced, and ridiculed.

Not only do they kill their own, they sabotage anything positive around them.
 
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We could have done stuff at the federal, state, and local level before it got the way it is.

The right still could but they spend so much time tilting at windmills that it's hard for them to win moderates and swing voters.

It would have had to go back to the days of Capone then.....the Moderates can't pull it off. Not even after Quinn passed a bill limiting the Illinois House members. He was responsible for taking it down to 2 House members for every congressional district. From 3 members. Which Quinn does lean left but he is close to being to the center. It was one move that many didn't have a problem with.

Course Quinn was never part of the Chicago Outfit and their machine.
 
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Yeah, I knew it wouldn't take long to be put up into the news. 13 Shot.....none dead yet. Although the 3 year yr old might not make it. No suspect in custody and no idea as to what the shooter looks like.


Immediately the Cops stated it may be gang related.

Still it is Chicago and with the Strictest gun laws in the country. I figured the Anti Gun Nuts would be all over this. Wheres Gabby? :doh

They have hundreds of murders a year in Chicago.

Chicago Homicide Rate In 2012 Surpassed New York City, But FBI Warns That's Not The Whole Story

If they want to maintain this record they better get to work. You can't have slow days with just 1-2 murders...
 
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They have hundreds of murders a year in Chicago.

Chicago Homicide Rate In 2012 Surpassed New York City, But FBI Warns That's Not The Whole Story

If they want to maintain this record they better get to work. You can't have slow days with just 1-2 murders...

Heya RM. :2wave: Well don't forget Chicago Cops are involved.....so some things aren't exactly reported accurately.
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Heya RM. :2wave: Well don't forget Chicago Cops are involved.....so some things aren't exactly reported accurately.
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True. And missing persons (even if they are missing for LONG time) aren't counted there too. These are just reported murders.

Rahm Emanuel must be proud. I wonder if Obama will have him over for Christmas or Hannukah celebrations at the WH to congratulate him on his bang up job.
 
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True. And missing persons (even if they are missing for LONG time) aren't counted there too. These are just reported murders.

Rahm Emanuel must be proud. I wonder if Obama will have him over for Christmas or Hannukah celebrations at the WH to congratulate him on his bang up job.


Yep, and some will be classified as Suicides.....Emanuel is the Small Potatoes......this Is Jesse Jackson turf and The Ex Black Panther Congressman Bobby Rush. Just to name two of the more prominent ones.

Most Shooters In Chicago Don't Face Charges

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It’s getting easier to get away with shooting people in Chicago.

Last year, gunmen who shot and wounded someone got away without criminal charges 94 percent of the time, according to a DNAinfo.com Chicago analysis of police data.

That’s even worse than 2011, when 91.5 percent of shooters escaped charges, according to the data.

Most Shooters In Chicago Don't Face Charges - Chicago - DNAinfo.com Chicago
 
I'm starting to think we need a war on gangs, just being in one should land you in prison. They are criminal organizations and threaten the well being of this country as much as terrorist.

LOL! Why do you think the murder rate is high in Chicago? It's because of the war on the GDs, who are all in prison and gang wars are breaking out to capture territory.
 
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"Guns don't kill. People kill."

Of course, people with guns can shoot 13 other people in a matter of seconds. But, we'll just ignore that.

Oh, maybe if everyone on the Basketball court had a gun, this could have been avoided...

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