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DeLay conviction overturned

As a matter of fact, Delay committed no crimes. If you think he did, I suggest looking at what the appeals court decided. That would change the mind of anyone who was mistaken and thought he committed a crime, except for people with a political agenda. Those types sit around and keep trying to invent crimes just as the DA did to start this fiasco.

Apparently, according to haymarket, he was convicted for being a politician.
 
The only thing you were right about was the use of the word POLITICAL..... the crimes DeLay committed were POLITICAL pure and simple.

He was acting as a POLITICAL operative.

He aided the Republican Party - a POLITICAL organization.

He attempted to give serious advantage in redistricting to a POLITICAL party for POLITICAL reasons.

Yes, DeLay was POLITICAL from start to finish when his POLITICAL allies on the appeals court saved his sorry ass by rewarding him for his POLITICAL service.

There are other instances and cases, but surely the poster-child case for just how utterly corrupted the US judiciary is, is this case.

Madison is rolling in his grave. The last bulwark against tyranny is rotten to the core.
 
A jury of 12 Texas citizens said otherwise and found him GUILTY.

And the fact is Delay committed no crime. Check out what the appeals court said.

So those 12 made a mistake or like you, don't care what the law says.
 
A jury of 12 Texas citizens said otherwise and found him GUILTY.
A jury of 12 Travis county residents were convinced that the spirit of the law was more important
that the letter of the law.
This whole it's right because it feels right, is a liberal concept, Should we not be surprised
that that was the basis of a conviction in the most liberal county in Texas?
Last time I checked 2002 (when the Supposed offense took place), predates the 2004 law
that made it illegal to transfer the type of funds used by Delay by check.
It is a technicality, but still the law.
The appeals court overturned an incorrect Jury verdict, and rendered a verdict of acquittal.
 
And the fact is Delay committed no crime. Check out what the appeals court said.

So those 12 made a mistake or like you, don't care what the law says.

A jury of 12 Texans sat and heard the charges. They heard the witnesses for both sides. They examined the evidence. They listened to the judge explain the law.

And they found him GUILTY.

Republicans on the appeals court rewarded him for political services rendered to the party.
 
A jury of 12 Travis county residents were convinced that the spirit of the law was more important
that the letter of the law.
This whole it's right because it feels right, is a liberal concept, Should we not be surprised
that that was the basis of a conviction in the most liberal county in Texas?
Last time I checked 2002 (when the Supposed offense took place), predates the 2004 law
that made it illegal to transfer the type of funds used by Delay by check.
It is a technicality, but still the law.
The appeals court overturned an incorrect Jury verdict, and rendered a verdict of acquittal.

YOu would think the trial judge knew these things that you pretend to know.
 
YOu would think the trial judge knew these things that you pretend to know.
Such is how things go when people place politics above the law.
Both sides should fear and abhor such activities.
 
Such is how things go when people place politics above the law.
Both sides should fear and abhor such activities.

I saw evidence of just that in the appeals court ruling allowing DeLay to escape his crimes.
 
I saw evidence of just that in the appeals court ruling allowing DeLay to escape his crimes.
We will just have to agree to disagree, The appeals court found errors in the trail courts verdict,
overturned it, and rendered a verdict of acquittal.
I do not think they can retry Delay, but the damage is already done.
There is a danger to our freedoms, when our Justice system is used as a political tool.
 
We will just have to agree to disagree, The appeals court found errors in the trail courts verdict,
overturned it, and rendered a verdict of acquittal.
I do not think they can retry Delay, but the damage is already done.
There is a danger to our freedoms, when our Justice system is used as a political tool.

I do agree with your final sentence.
 
A jury of 12 Texans sat and heard the charges. They heard the witnesses for both sides. They examined the evidence. They listened to the judge explain the law.

And they found him GUILTY.

Republicans on the appeals court rewarded him for political services rendered to the party.

Like I said, you don't care what the law said.
 
A jury of 12 Travis county residents were convinced that the spirit of the law was more important
that the letter of the law.
This whole it's right because it feels right, is a liberal concept, Should we not be surprised
that that was the basis of a conviction in the most liberal county in Texas?
Last time I checked 2002 (when the Supposed offense took place), predates the 2004 law
that made it illegal to transfer the type of funds used by Delay by check.
It is a technicality, but still the law.
The appeals court overturned an incorrect Jury verdict, and rendered a verdict of acquittal.

Today, the congress has about a 10% approval rating.

When DeLay was convicted maybe it was 20%. My bet is another jury today hearing the same evidence would convict again.

That some appeals court overturned a jury verdict is a fine example of WHY the entire damn government has a low approval rating--it is utterly corrupt, including the judiciary.

Look which branch gave us the sophistry of Kelo or Citizens United.
 
Today, the congress has about a 10% approval rating.

When DeLay was convicted maybe it was 20%. My bet is another jury today hearing the same evidence would convict again.

That some appeals court overturned a jury verdict is a fine example of WHY the entire damn government has a low approval rating--it is utterly corrupt, including the judiciary.

Look which branch gave us the sophistry of Kelo or Citizens United.
If the Jury reaches an incorrect guilty verdict (no existing law was violated at the time of the incident)
and trail judges misses or ignores the miscarriage of justice, it is the job of the appeals court to
overturn such convictions.
Our Justice system is weighted towards innocence, which is why a Judge or an appeals court
may not overturn a Jury's not guilty verdict.
 
If the Jury reaches an incorrect guilty verdict (no existing law was violated at the time of the incident)
and trail judges misses or ignores the miscarriage of justice, it is the job of the appeals court to
overturn such convictions.
Our Justice system is weighted towards innocence, which is why a Judge or an appeals court
may not overturn a Jury's not guilty verdict.

A jury of 12 Texans who heard the case decided differently. Of course, they were not there to go through a series of convoluted legal gymnastics in a blatant attempt to reward a Republican politician for service to the Republican Party in giving them control of redistricting and the legislature for the next decade.
 
They did the same in in the Simpson trial. So what??

Two very very very different things completely. But feel free to tell us how they were more or less the same thing.
 
Two very very very different things completely. But feel free to tell us how they were more or less the same thing.

Jury error.

There have been other cases of judge or jury error as well, which is why there are Appeals.

I thought most people knew that.
 
Jury error.

There have been other cases of judge or jury error as well, which is why there are Appeals.

I thought most people knew that.


There was no juror error. They heard the case and decided the evidence presented to them warranted conviction. The two Republicans then substituted their own judgment for the 12 Texas jurors A way to reward a fellow Republican who turned over a decade of legislative rule to the Party. The only error was by those two Republican judges.

And you still have not pointed out the so called similarities in the Simpson case and the DeLay case. They are nothing alike.
 
If the Jury reaches an incorrect guilty verdict (no existing law was violated at the time of the incident)
and trail judges misses or ignores the miscarriage of justice, it is the job of the appeals court to
overturn such convictions.
Our Justice system is weighted towards innocence, which is why a Judge or an appeals court
may not overturn a Jury's not guilty verdict.

I agree with what you say, all the way. I'm an advocate of jury nullification.

It seems to me that if the facts and evidence supported "not guilty", the defense should have moved for a directed verdict, and the court should have accepted it and ruled thusly.

I assume that as is usually the case, the defense DID move for a directed verdict, but the court did not grant it. Don't know the details, but it is a safe assumption. Perhaps DeLay had a bad attorney, but I doubt it.

My guess is the jury delivered justice, and that the appeals court delivered typical corruption.
 
There was no juror error. They heard the case and decided the evidence presented to them warranted conviction. The two Republicans then substituted their own judgment for the 12 Texas jurors A way to reward a fellow Republican who turned over a decade of legislative rule to the Party. The only error was by those two Republican judges.

And you still have not pointed out the so called similarities in the Simpson case and the DeLay case. They are nothing alike.

The cases were not alike yes. Everyone understands that.

But the juries in both cases erred. Otherwise, in the Delay case, the decision would not have been overturned. Do you really need a list of cases where juries, or judges, have been wrong??? This s hard to believe!!
 
The cases were not alike yes. Everyone understands that.

But the juries in both cases erred. Otherwise, in the Delay case, the decision would not have been overturned. Do you really need a list of cases where juries, or judges, have been wrong??? This s hard to believe!!

Not at all. The decision of 12 texans in the DeLay case was overturned simply because the two republican appeals judges would not have rendered the same veridict in the case as those 12 who sat there day after day and actuall heard all the evidence. They gave a reward to a fellow republican for his service to the party.
 
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