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Police: 2 Women Gang Raped By Juveniles In Wilmington Park [W: 54,119]

Comparing rapists to a random guy walking down the street minding his own business until confronted by a racist. Interesting.
 
Comparing rapists to a random guy walking down the street minding his own business until confronted by a racist. Interesting.

Still this old BS?

- The FBI found no evidence that Zimmerman was racist. (McClatchy)
- Zimmerman is a Hispanic and a registered Democrat. (CNN)
- Zimmerman voted for Obama. (Daily Caller)
- Zimmerman has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather. (Reuters)
- Zimmerman has many black family members and friends (CNN)
- Zimmerman and a black friend opened up an insurance office in Florida. (Reuters)
- Zimmerman mentored two black children. (CNN)
- Zimmerman helped in a fund raiser for a black church. (CNN)
- Zimmerman launched a campaign to help a homeless black man who was beaten up by a white kid. (Reuters)
- Zimmerman took a black girl to the prom. (CNN)
- Zimmerman was the only one to welcome a black neighbor to the community. (CNN)
- Zimmerman's black neighbor said she would trust George with her life. (CNN)
 
Still this old BS?

How exactly do you prove conclusively that ANYONE is a racist. You can skip the wide sheet and the burning cross and still be racist.
 
How exactly do you prove conclusively that ANYONE is a racist. You can skip the wide sheet and the burning cross and still be racist.

Apparently, by simply observing that the "perp" is a white hispanic and the "victim" is a black. ;)

You can also be a bigot in many other ways.
 
How exactly do you prove conclusively that ANYONE is a racist. You can skip the wide sheet and the burning cross and still be racist.

In the prosecution of a hate crime, there are two main qualifiers:

1. There is no other motive for the crime.
2. The accused possesses propaganda from or is a member of a known hate group.

Those are pretty solid indicators.
 
Am I to understand that the argument is that if the OP is a racist then these kids get a pass on gang raping two women?

Well, that would explain why these kids have no shred of human decency. Maybe some hugs and some more handouts will help them.:roll:
 
How exactly do you prove conclusively that ANYONE is a racist. You can skip the wide sheet and the burning cross and still be racist.

If GZ was a racist, why did he try to get the old police chief in Sanford fired when he refused to prosecute a police officer's son for beating a homeless black man? Why did he go to all the local black churches and try to raise support against the SPD? This happened just a year before the TM confrontation, does the media really have that short of a memory when they try to call this guy a racist?
 
They have no suspects!

Where are the artists whom draw suspects based on description? There was enough light!

You think two women scared out of their minds could give accurate desriptions of their attackers?
 
You think two women scared out of their minds could give accurate desriptions of their attackers?

There are several traits of trauma. The one relevant to discussion specifically is under "B" in the DSM-IV for PTSD. That is as follows:

B. The traumatic event is persistently reexperienced in one (or more) of the following ways:

(1) recurrent and intrusive distressing recollections of the event, including images, thoughts, or perceptions. Note: In young children, repetitive play may occur in which themes or aspects of the trauma are expressed.

(2) recurrent distressing dreams of the event. Note: In children, there may be frightening dreams without recognizable content.

(3) acting or feeling as if the traumatic event were recurring (includes a sense of reliving the experience, illusions, hallucinations, and dissociative flashback episodes, including those that occur upon awakening or when intoxicated). Note: In young children, trauma-specific reenactment may occur.

Thus the experience is not (though the victim may wish) buried and forgotten. They could describe the perpetrators while re-experiencing the traumatic event.

References:

Mental Health (2013). 309.81: Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. Retrieved from: Post Traumatic Stress Disorder DSM IV Criteria
 
Apparently, by simply observing that the "perp" is a white hispanic and the "victim" is a black. ;)

You can also be a bigot in many other ways.

Come on T, you know I deserve more credit than that.
 
In the prosecution of a hate crime, there are two main qualifiers:

1. There is no other motive for the crime.
2. The accused possesses propaganda from or is a member of a known hate group.

Those are pretty solid indicators.

That is an enormous leap. From it's hard to conclusively prove someone is a racist to implying that he is being accused of a hate crime. calm down.
 
Come on T, you know I deserve more credit than that.

That appeared to be the basis for the OP's assertion for saying that George Zimmerman was a racist for his taking an interest in the behavior of Trayvon Martin, was it not?

I never meant to imply that you shared that view, yet found it curious that you would appear to defend that position. ;)
 
If GZ was a racist, why did he try to get the old police chief in Sanford fired when he refused to prosecute a police officer's son for beating a homeless black man? Why did he go to all the local black churches and try to raise support against the SPD? This happened just a year before the TM confrontation, does the media really have that short of a memory when they try to call this guy a racist?

I am not gonna unravel that thread again.
 
Apparently, by simply observing that the "perp" is a white hispanic and the "victim" is a black. ;)

You can also be a bigot in many other ways.

that's not true ... it's racist is you say the rapist is black, but when he's white, you don't say he's white ... that's the way it used to be ...

also, it's racist when you wronglfully conflict a bunch of kids and a young adult of beating and raping a jogger in Central Park when the evidence was ignored because it had to be them ... a guy confessed to the rape, but it wasn't until these young men had served their sentences ... I could go on with many examples of racism in our criminal justice system, but it will be wasted on you and other bigots ...
 
Police: 2 Women Gang Raped By Juveniles In Wilmington Park

Suspects Range In Age From 12 To 17-Years-Old

By Ileana Diaz, Matt Rivers
August 30, 2013

WILMINGTON, Del. (CBS) — Neighbors near Kosciuszko Park in Wilmington expressed anger and outrage Friday, after learning the details of a brutal gang-rape that happened in the park Thursday.

Police say two women, ages 32 and 24, were reportedly attacked and sexually assaulted by a group of 10 to 12 black male juveniles in Kosciuszko Park at about 6:54 p.m. Thursday. According to police, the suspects, who range in age from 12 to 17-years-old, remain on the loose.

The victims were transported to Christiana Hospital for treatment.

Wilmington police increased patrols Friday in the park which is located in the 600 block of South Franklin Street in the Hedgeville Community.

The women were released from the hospital Friday, but as of Friday night, police had no suspects and no witnesses.

“The new criminal we’re seeing, they’re bold, they’re brazen, and they have a total disregard for life,” said Maria Cabrera, city councilwoman-at-large in Wilmington.

Neighbors who live near the park gathered with reporters, politicians, and police for a small rally Friday against crime and in show of support of the victims.

[Excerpt]

Read more:
Police: 2 Women Gang Raped By Juveniles In Wilmington Park « CBS Philly

The local Wilmington paper dutifully said the police were searching for “teens” of unspecified race. Only later was it reported the teens – all believed by police to be between age 12 and 17 – were also black. Was this a hate crime? You decide. Imagine if the two White women were black and the teenagers white. Surely Al Sharpton the race hustler would be there lickety-split shouting no justice no peace.
 
That appeared to be the basis for the OP's assertion for saying that George Zimmerman was a racist for his taking an interest in the behavior of Trayvon Martin, was it not?

I never meant to imply that you shared that view, yet found it curious that you would appear to defend that position. ;)

I have to confess I don't know what the hell his point was. Seems like an effort just to stir the worn out old pot again. I was actually being a little trigger happy myself and reacting to Eco's post that first provided and a link to an article about Z not being racist.
 
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Apparently, by simply observing that the "perp" is a white hispanic and the "victim" is a black. ;)

You can also be a bigot in many other ways.

Or perhaps deciding a random person on the street is a serious enough threat to pursue and confront based on nothing other than what they look like. That might be an indication of racism.
 
Could be racially motivated.
 
Suspects Range In Age From 12 To 17-Years-Old

By Ileana Diaz, Matt Rivers
August 30, 2013

WILMINGTON, Del. (CBS) — Neighbors near Kosciuszko Park in Wilmington expressed anger and outrage Friday, after learning the details of a brutal gang-rape that happened in the park Thursday.

Police say two women, ages 32 and 24, were reportedly attacked and sexually assaulted by a group of 10 to 12 black male juveniles in Kosciuszko Park at about 6:54 p.m. Thursday. According to police, the suspects, who range in age from 12 to 17-years-old, remain on the loose.

The victims were transported to Christiana Hospital for treatment.

Wilmington police increased patrols Friday in the park which is located in the 600 block of South Franklin Street in the Hedgeville Community.

The women were released from the hospital Friday, but as of Friday night, police had no suspects and no witnesses.

“The new criminal we’re seeing, they’re bold, they’re brazen, and they have a total disregard for life,” said Maria Cabrera, city councilwoman-at-large in Wilmington.

Neighbors who live near the park gathered with reporters, politicians, and police for a small rally Friday against crime and in show of support of the victims.

[Excerpt]

Read more:
Police: 2 Women Gang Raped By Juveniles In Wilmington Park « CBS Philly

The local Wilmington paper dutifully said the police were searching for “teens” of unspecified race. Only later was it reported the teens – all believed by police to be between age 12 and 17 – were also black. Was this a hate crime? You decide. Imagine if the two White women were black and the teenagers white.
Surely Al Sharpton the race hustler would be there lickety-split shouting no justice no peace.




Wehrwolfen is filling in for Al Sharpton on this sad case.
 
that's not true ... it's racist is you say the rapist is black, but when he's white, you don't say he's white ... that's the way it used to be ...

also, it's racist when you wronglfully conflict a bunch of kids and a young adult of beating and raping a jogger in Central Park when the evidence was ignored because it had to be them ... a guy confessed to the rape, but it wasn't until these young men had served their sentences ... I could go on with many examples of racism in our criminal justice system, but it will be wasted on you and other bigots ...

Well that is a new standard for racism, the mere mention of, or failure to mention, a person's race. So it is racist to say that Obama is the first black president, without also saying that Washington was the first white president, or that Bush Jr. was the 43rd white president? Get over yourself, please.
 
Seriously? My god, you guys have completely blown that quote out of proportion.

Yeah, Zimmerman didn't deserve to be painted as some evil racist. What a shock, two hundred years of racism have made some people paranoid. This type of attitude only makes it worse. Move on already.

Do you know anyone that has experienced 200 years of racism, I don't. Obama said it, did he not?
 
Or perhaps deciding a random person on the street is a serious enough threat to pursue and confront based on nothing other than what they look like. That might be an indication of racism.

Read the NEM GZ/dispatcher tape transcripts (found under 911 tapes) again and note the frequent references by GZ to TM's behavior and the lack of any reference (except the single response to a direct question from the dispatcher) to his race.
 
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