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Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threa[W:423]

Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

OscarB63 said:
oh right is right. your 3rd image says it all. note the date: march 1921
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I'm taking a shot at her general assertion that this is something which doesn't happen often. It does. White only, black only businesses exist today. They just don't label themselves as such. Try getting a loan in Harlem as a white guy or black clientele at certain barbershops down South. Won't happen.
 
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sangha said:
If the restaurant had a valid reason for denying them service, then why would they offer the people a free meal?
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to avoid an unnecessary **** storm, bad PR, and the mob mentality that pervades cause heads and internet busy bodies?
 
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Lutherf said:
I don't know about it being a setup but I did work in restaurants during college and if a large group showed up without a reservation it always caused a problem. 25 people is more than a "large" party...it a freaking huge party for any restaurant not set up for that kind of thing.
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Yep.

When my immediate family gets together, that can, we normally have 12-16 people. We always make reservations, and many places say we don't have that large of an area.
 
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opendebate said:
Not all restaurants take reservations.
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That's often for a reason. Go somewhere else than. Rather short sighted not to make a reservation with more than 4-6 people, depending on the place.
 
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DiAnna said:
Yeah, this was pretty blatant... and they got at least part of it on video!
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How was it blatant?

The fact that Management was contacted several times over a period of weeks, and only made a move to "rectify" the situation after it hit social media leads me to believe they didn't think kicking a group of black people out "because they can" was a big deal.
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or something going viral on the internet has much more of an impact on your business than a personal complaint ....

I agree with the guy being interviewed. It clearly WAS a big deal, and they don't want free food. They want the policy that if a white person feels "threatened", black people can be kicked out "because they can" changed.
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There have been accusations the person complaining felt threatened because they were verbally assaulted and threatened by a member of his party ...

I don't blame him one damned bit. Anyone who looks for excuses to call this something other than what it was... blatant racism condoned by management... should frankly be ashamed of themselves.
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Why not actually articulate something resembling an argument as opposed to simply declaring people that disagree with you are racist?
 
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DiAnna said:
Yeah, this was pretty blatant... and they got at least part of it on video!

The fact that Management was contacted several times over a period of weeks, and only made a move to "rectify" the situation after it hit social media leads me to believe they didn't think kicking a group of black people out "because they can" was a big deal. I agree with the guy being interviewed. It clearly WAS a big deal, and they don't want free food. They want the policy that if a white person feels "threatened", black people can be kicw about ked out "because they can" changed.

I don't blame him one damned bit. Anyone who looks for excuses to call this something other than what it was... blatant racism condoned by management... should frankly be ashamed of themselves.
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i don't know about that
white man with his family
doesn't appreciate a group of people throwing the word 'nigger' around while his kids are present
i can understand why he would object to such a group being seated around him


failing to communicate with the disgruntled patrons for the better part of a month. that was slack. then their press agent releases a missive talking about ' loving' their diners. worse than slack: dishonest
but moose muhammad is a retired NFL player. a black man. and a principal of the ownership group. really think this company tolerates racist practices by its staff?
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Yes, imagine using racism in a thread discussing racism. Again, can't get anything past you slugger ...

PS discussing racism, if it actually occurred, and what it is, isn't the same as declaring something racism. And if you would bother reading the thread you would notice that I am one of the people pointing to a lack of evidence for racism, or racial motivations
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LMAO..this thread is about disorderly people being asked to leave a restaurant..YOU'RE the one that sees "racism" everywhere...

nice work though you mentioned the word (or a variation of it) 5 times in that one....slugger...
 
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Lord of Planar said:
That's often for a reason. Go somewhere else than. Rather short sighted not to make a reservation with more than 4-6 people, depending on the place.
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Why does it even matter? How in the world is it freakin relevant?
 
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Lord of Planar said:
That's often for a reason. Go somewhere else than. Rather short sighted not to make a reservation with more than 4-6 people, depending on the place.
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accounts indicated they called ahead advising of a large party. have no idea how far ahead
 
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P. Kersey said:
LMAO..this thread is about disorderly people being asked to leave a restaurant..YOU'RE the one that sees "racism" everywhere...
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*face palm* As I just outlined in my previous post, I am arguing that there is no evidence of racism.

And yes, this is a discussion on racism: mainly if such occurred in the cited incident
 
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justabubba said:
do you think that they were treated properly?
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After reading the anonymous employee comment, I think they were. What was said sound so correct, that I think they were told it would be a long wait. I think it's safe to bet at least one of 25 started making some rather uncivil comments. Regardless of race. One in a group of 25 whites would...
 
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opendebate said:
Why does it even matter? How in the world is it freakin relevant?
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because it's difficult for most establishments to seat such a party on short notice, and speaks directly to one of the complaints (untimely accommodation)
 
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P. Kersey said:
LMAO..this thread is about disorderly people being asked to leave a restaurant..YOU'RE the one that sees "racism" everywhere...

nice work though you mentioned the word (or a variation of it) 5 times in that one....slugger...
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No, he doesn't. If you read carefully, he's been questioning why others are foolish to jump to that conclusion.
 
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Moot said:
Of course they wouldn't, it's South Carolina the state that started the Civil War.
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Does the state you live in have a US Senator who is black? Remember now, South Carolina does and it's "the state that started the Civil War".
 
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justabubba said:
accounts indicated they called ahead advising of a large party. have no idea how far ahead
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Still, not a reservation. Were they suppose to kick the other group using what was probably a banquette room like setting out when they arrived?

Most people with large groups stay more than 2 hours. We often stay as long as 4 hours.
 
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opendebate said:
Why does it even matter? How in the world is it freakin relevant?
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It's freakin relevant because your expected wait is proportional to your party size, clearly something the party complained about.
 
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mak2 said:
Looking when you cross the street has nothing to do with fear.
I carry and have clicked off my safety once and had my thumb on it twice. I was scared, or at least reasonalby in fear for my life. See post 172. Not the same thing.
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Oh, Ok.I see...let's play word games.

It's common sense based on experience and known dangers to look before crossing. You MIGHT make it if you don't look...but you might not...

Same for carrying.

I notice she won't go anywhere near the simple question I asked. LMAO..and that's not the first one she's ducked when she gets cornered.

I'm sure she's grateful for you getting her out of the corner she painted herself into, though.
 
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ItAin'tFree said:
Does the state you live in have a US Senator who is black? Remember now, South Carolina does and it's "the state that started the Civil War".
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I think you know that South Carolina didn't start the war of federal tyranny. lincoln did.
 
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I noticed you mentioning clicking off the safety. It sounded so John Wayneish and I am kinda sensitive to things I think makes us gun nuts sound bad.
P. Kersey said:
Oh, Ok.I see...let's play word games.

It's common sense based on experience and known dangers to look before crossing. You MIGHT make it if you don't look...but you might not...

Same for carrying.

I notice she won't go anywhere near the simple question I asked. LMAO..and that's not the first one she's ducked when she gets cornered.

I'm sure she's grateful for you getting her out of the corner she painted herself into, though.
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Dr. Chuckles said:
because it's difficult for most establishments to seat such a party on short notice, and speaks directly to one of the complaints (untimely accommodation)
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Okay, I get that but how is it relevant to the conversaiton as to whether or not the behavior of the restaurant was racist? I really do not get the connection here.Sorry.

It may be relevant as to why they had to wait for two hours and address any claims of racism with regard to that, but as for asking them to leave...don't get it.
 
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Mathematician said:
It's freakin relevant because your expected wait is proportional to your party size, clearly something the party complained about.
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So what? What does that have to do with whether or not asking them to leave was influenced by the fact that the staff felt unduly threatened ?
 
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mak2 said:
I noticed you mentioning clicking off the safety. It sounded so John Wayneish and I am kinda sensitive to things I think makes us gun nuts sound bad.
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gun nuts?

I dunno about that...I do know you're changing the subject now, though.
 
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I most certainly did not, I just pointed out the silliness. What subject did I change? Crossing the street?
P. Kersey said:
gun nuts?

I dunno about that...I do know you're changing the subject now, though.
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mak2 said:
Looking when you cross the street has nothing to do with fear.

I carry and have clicked off my safety once and had my thumb on it twice. I was scared, or at least reasonalby in fear for my life. See post 172. Not the same thing.
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P. Kersey said:
Oh, Ok.I see...let's play word games.

It's common sense based on experience and known dangers to look before crossing. You MIGHT make it if you don't look...but you might not...

Same for carrying.

I notice she won't go anywhere near the simple question I asked. LMAO..and that's not the first one she's ducked when she gets cornered.

I'm sure she's grateful for you getting her out of the corner she painted herself into, though.
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P K:

I did respond. But debates with a person of your mindset are a waste of time. I have no interest.
 
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opendebate said:
Okay, I get that but how is it relevant to the conversaiton as to whether or not the behavior of the restaurant was racist? I really do not get the connection here.Sorry.

It may be relevant as to why they had to wait for two hours and address any claims of racism with regard to that, but as for asking them to leave...don't get it.
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because part of the allegation that the restaurant's behavior was racist was they were seating white patrons before seating their party. Besides possibly just being ****ty service, something people of all racial backgrounds are forced to experience at times, it would indicate they were largely victims of circumstances they created
 
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