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Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threa[W:423]

Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Did you listen to the interview with the spokesman for the group?

He said the manager told him there was an issue with another patrón but they were not asked to leave until the filming started.

How can that be construed as racist?

It can be interpreted as racist or at least some other form of discrimination. Either way, the manager handled the situation poorly.

I'm not saying the local has a racist policy. It surely hasn't as the woman at the end of the interview said that those people were regulars. It was just an unfortunate chain of events that night and the manager is to blame. It can be seen as a racist motivation.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

It can be interpreted as racist or at least some other form of discrimination. Either way, the manager handled the situation poorly.

I'm not saying the local has a racist policy. It surely hasn't as the woman at the end of the interview said that those people were regulars. It was just an unfortunate chain of events that night and the manager is to blame. It can be seen as a racist motivation.

Is it racist to tell a large group of people that they have had a complaint from another customer no matter the color of each?

It is being said here that asking the group to leave was predicated on the complaint from the other patrón, but it wasn't, if you believe the man that it actually happened to.

If the group had been white and they had started filming, I bet they would have been asked to leave just the same.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

must be some mighty damn good food at that place. these people waited two hours in the ****ing rain for a seat? sorry, but unless they are giving out complimentary blowjobs...I'm not waiting two hours for a meal
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Who are you quoting?

Did I use quotation marks?
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

I don't feel the need to succumb to political correctness. I don't go out looking for friends of a particular color in order to prove to those who don't know me that I am not a racist. I have worked with blacks in machine shops most of my career. We got along, had a good time and, God forbid, even enjoyed lunch together. Just because they never invited me to their houses did not make me think they were racist. The fact that they spent more time with those of their own color did not make me think they were racist, just like none of them ever accused me of racism. Now someone like you comes along and after reading a few words I posted makes this claim. Just why should I care at all what someone like you thinks of me?

So you say that you actively avoid black people, then when someone says that's bigoted your answer is about political correctness. OK....
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

must be some mighty damn good food at that place. these people waited two hours in the ****ing rain for a seat? sorry, but unless they are giving out complimentary blowjobs...I'm not waiting two hours for a meal

Yet to eat there, but I hear the food is awful.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Conservatives keep saying leftist say that. I have never heard anyone say that. I was simply asking who.
Did I use quotation marks?
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

show up with 24 people without a reservation or call ahead, wait two hours. I don't get it. though I could imagine that anyone waiting that long might get loud and a bit testy.

unfortunately we will probably never get the full story on what actually happened.

Though it would have been funny if the shift mananger who asked them to leave had been black ;)
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Right as the country commemorates the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, people are flocking to social media to condemn a South Carolina restaurant for its allegedly racist actions.

According to CBS affiliate WCSC-TV, Michael Brown and 24 of his family and friends were at Wild Wing Cafe celebrating his cousin's final day in Charleston, S.C., last month when the group was suddenly told to leave.

The reason? The shift manager allegedly told Brown that a white customer felt "threatened" by his party. When one of Brown's companions started filming the exchange, the shift manager is said to have told the group to leave.

"[That] totally alarmed all of us because we're sitting there peaceably for two hours," Brown told the news outlet.

Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threatened': Report

"I had a dream" where restaurants would not turn away black diners who were waiting peacefully for 2 hours to get seated because "1 white customer felt threatened". Sorry, but this is just horrible. The last day's dinner of these people was ruined because of the unreasonable feelings of 1 diner in a restaurant.

I blame the manager for this disaster. She should have reasoned with the "fearful" customer and solved this. This is a public image nightmare for this company due to intolerance and what looks like racism on a weekend that was the 50th anniversary of the march on Washington and one of the most monumental events in the civil rights struggle.

I also wonder, whether the same would have happened if 1 black person had complained he/she felt threatened by a large group of white people.

I find it hard to believe that this would happen in SC without there being considerably more to the story. There a lot of black people in that area, anyone who lives there would accept them as a normal part of their society. We'll see what develops.

On the other hand, 1 gay person could scream "homophobe" and have the entire restaurant to themselves just to be fair.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

The entire thing smells like made up BS to me.

If it did happen: I see 'a customer complaint' as an excuse by management to dodge a blow. . . because since WHEN does any restaurant kick out '24 well behaving PAYING patrons' because ONE PERSON claimed they felt threatened?

I'd like actual evidence it even happened. I wouldn't put it past someone to just make up a baseless accusation because they were peeved at the service (for no reason, even) - Evidence that it happened would be surveillance footage. We could then see:

1) How the group was behaving (if they were really there)
2) Another customer actually complained (if it really happened)
3) They were kicked out as a result of that complaint (if it really happened)

If it even happened at all - it just might be a made up story beginning to end - which I think it is. Who in the hell supposedly waits for two hours to eat, anyway? That's the gist - they weren't even IN the restaurant. What were they supposedly doing? Chilling out in the parking lot for two hours? I don't think so - who in the hell would DO THAT?

There is no evidence - this all started because of a Facebook post . . . and I'm not going to be the idiot who believes any of it without any sort of PROOF.

Restaurants send away people who misbehave.
They send away people because they are a group of TWENTY FOUR waiting for 2 hours and there's still no seating for TWENTY FOUR people. (This is what I expect happened - and the race/customer complaint is made up. If it happened at all).

I just don't believe any of it. . . sounds like he's full of **** and trying to incite a race riot.

Is this what we've come down to - believing anything that's on the internet as if it's some sort of truth.

Good post. I'd like more information as well, I found a USA today article quoting the marketing chief of the food chain saying that they were investigating the incident so I'm curious as to what they'll find and I'm hoping they actually will demand proof of the incident before taking any serious action against any of their staff.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

The primary problem in this issue is, we just don't know what happened, and people are taking the bit, then running with it, completely uninformed as to what happened.

One can only comment on available information. If the issue is political, then nobody would be able to comment on anything since politics is most lies.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

So you say that you actively avoid black people, then when someone says that's bigoted your answer is about political correctness. OK....

I actively avoid some black people. For instance, when I see a group of young black men in front of a convenience store I go elsewhere. When I see a rowdy group of blacks being loud in a restaurant, I eat elsewhere. It's called freedom of association. You see, I don't feel the need to show the world I'm alright with everything that's considered politically correct. I also use hyperbole in many of my postings; I know others will assume the worst.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Conservatives keep saying leftist say that. I have never heard anyone say that. I was simply asking who.

I have heard race-baters say it before. I didn't think I would need to note the exact words and exact circumstances, but yes I have heard this said before.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Maybe because they were regulars, they liked the food and maybe because it is not that easy to sit a party of 25 and they were told that they could be seated there.




Well, that sounds like some pretty good reasons.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Few things annoy me more than someone who feel they have to show the world how they are beyond anything that might be construed as racism. It must be a horrible life when you feel you must prove yourself to complete strangers.

Lord help us if we ever get to a day when blacks are no longer oppressed by society. /snark
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Yea, the only people I have heard say it are consrevatives too.
I have heard race-baters say it before. I didn't think I would need to note the exact words and exact circumstances, but yes I have heard this said before.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

You too?

I see no proof it happened that isn't hearsay - once I see proof it happened - which isn't hearsay - then I can asses the situation. Right now there are so many unknown elements, no one can make a call one way or the other.

I just seems like common sense to me to gather all of the information, first, before deciding my response. Whereas some people don't want to wait for anything at all, and instead, are going straight for a boycott.

When did seeking out more evidence of a crime or injustice become racist? Why, since it's a situation involving possible racism, then the investigate-and-undercover facts approach to crime and justice go out the window?

That makes no sense - imagine if we did that in response to every accusation that was raised.

Of course we don't know everything yet. Nobody's denying that. What is being denied by some, however, that if this story does pan out to be true, then it will be very difficult to make the case that racism was not involved. Denial of the existence racism is a form of racism.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

I am sorry, but the original article was called

Yes, that's the title, but nothing in the article indicates it was race related ...
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Of course we don't know everything yet. Nobody's denying that. What is being denied by some, however, that if this story does pan out to be true, then it will be very difficult to make the case that racism was not involved. Denial of the existence racism is a form of racism.

Have you really ever come across anyone who has ever denied the existence of racism?

I haven't.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

There was race involved. If there was a threat or an altercation there would have been police involvement. Some person feeling threatened because they have to sit near black people is pure racism.

No, that is your assumption about the incident.

Could it involve race? Sure. Does anything in the article indicate it involved race? No
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

wh-wh-what! Are you serious? Wow......talk about pulling the blinds down

What in the article indicates it was about race? The mere fact that it concerns a group of African Americans?
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

If you have any proof that this happened, let's see it.

Well, that's my attitude about the racism allegation: what is it based on?
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

What in the article indicates it was about race? The mere fact that it concerns a group of African Americans?

Of course! Had it been a group of white folks there would have been be no accusation of race being a factor.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

It could very well be a case of racism, but we really only have one side of the story here. Perhaps we should get it all before we start jumping to conclusions?

It would seem odd that a restaurant would kick people out because someone felt threatened. It could be the decision came once the party started recording the event and that without that they wouldn't have been asked to leave. It could be that perhaps there was some interaction between the other patrons and this group. It could be a straight up act of unabashed racism.

Why do you hate america?
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Right as the country commemorates the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, people are flocking to social media to condemn a South Carolina restaurant for its allegedly racist actions.

According to CBS affiliate WCSC-TV, Michael Brown and 24 of his family and friends were at Wild Wing Cafe celebrating his cousin's final day in Charleston, S.C., last month when the group was suddenly told to leave.

The reason? The shift manager allegedly told Brown that a white customer felt "threatened" by his party. When one of Brown's companions started filming the exchange, the shift manager is said to have told the group to leave.

"[That] totally alarmed all of us because we're sitting there peaceably for two hours," Brown told the news outlet.

Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threatened': Report

"I had a dream" where restaurants would not turn away black diners who were waiting peacefully for 2 hours to get seated because "1 white customer felt threatened". Sorry, but this is just horrible. The last day's dinner of these people was ruined because of the unreasonable feelings of 1 diner in a restaurant.

I blame the manager for this disaster. She should have reasoned with the "fearful" customer and solved this. This is a public image nightmare for this company due to intolerance and what looks like racism on a weekend that was the 50th anniversary of the march on Washington and one of the most monumental events in the civil rights struggle.

I also wonder, whether the same would have happened if 1 black person had complained he/she felt threatened by a large group of white people.

If 25 black people were asked to leave a restaurant because 1 white guy felt uncomfortable, it would have taken a swat team to get them out of there. :roll:

This story is BS.

The one part I do believe is that they could have waited 2 hours - a 2 hour wait won't keep a black man from a chicken wing ;)
 
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