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Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threa[W:423]

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You too?

I see no proof it happened that isn't hearsay - once I see proof it happened - which isn't hearsay - then I can asses the situation. Right now there are so many unknown elements, no one can make a call one way or the other.

I just seems like common sense to me to gather all of the information, first, before deciding my response. Whereas some people don't want to wait for anything at all, and instead, are going straight for a boycott.

When did seeking out more evidence of a crime or injustice become racist? Why, since it's a situation involving possible racism, then the investigate-and-undercover facts approach to crime and justice go out the window?

That makes no sense - imagine if we did that in response to every accusation that was raised.

Omg, how DARE you speak on the basis of reason. ;)
 
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Omg, how DARE you speak on the basis of reason. ;)

I know - on Debate Politics of all places I'm not jumping to conclusions.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Well damn, lets just hang anyone working at the wings place that night.
Offer their heads up to the gods of race and have all us white people beg for forgivness.

I'm not asking for anything that dramatic. But the manager who handled the affair should suffer some economic repercussions. either a downcut in payment for a period of time or he will be sacrificed at the alter of unemployment if the diner feels that's what it needs to do to redeem some of its PR.

You are trying to blow it up and make ridicule of the situation. I don't find it funny and I don't appreciate you trying to deflate the situation by blowing it out of proportions. Not the situation as much as... the desired outcome.

Nobody I think, is advocating for anything more than that. White people have no guilt in this matter.
 
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Bad business decision. The manager took out 25 customers in order to pacify a singe racist one? If the single customer felt threatened then he did the right thing for himself by leaving. The manager should be fired. If I owned the place, I would fire him.
 
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People need to chill. Literally nobody in this thread knows what happened. We're all evaluating the situation from our knowledge and beliefs about the world. Some people - as a result of their knowledge and belief - are more likely to believe the story and others - as a result of their knowledge and belief - are more likely to not believe the story. Insulting people because they aren't being skeptical enough or because they are too skeptical is pointless. Just accept that some people believe it and others don't.
 
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Bad business decision. The manager took out 25 customers in order to pacify a singe racist one? If the single customer felt threatened then he did the right thing for himself by leaving. The manager should be fired. If I owned the place, I would fire him.
Yeah, if the story true (and I believe it is), I just can't get over how horrible a business decision this was. 25 people is a whole lot of cash.
 
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The entire thing smells like made up BS to me.

If it did happen: I see 'a customer complaint' as an excuse by management to dodge a blow. . . because since WHEN does any restaurant kick out '24 well behaving PAYING patrons' because ONE PERSON claimed they felt threatened?

I'd like actual evidence it even happened. I wouldn't put it past someone to just make up a baseless accusation because they were peeved at the service (for no reason, even) - Evidence that it happened would be surveillance footage. We could then see:

1) How the group was behaving (if they were really there)
2) Another customer actually complained (if it really happened)
3) They were kicked out as a result of that complaint (if it really happened)

If it even happened at all - it just might be a made up story beginning to end - which I think it is. Who in the hell supposedly waits for two hours to eat, anyway? That's the gist - they weren't even IN the restaurant. What were they supposedly doing? Chilling out in the parking lot for two hours? I don't think so - who in the hell would DO THAT?

There is no evidence - this all started because of a Facebook post . . . and I'm not going to be the idiot who believes any of it without any sort of PROOF.

Restaurants send away people who misbehave.
They send away people because they are a group of TWENTY FOUR waiting for 2 hours and there's still no seating for TWENTY FOUR people. (This is what I expect happened - and the race/customer complaint is made up. If it happened at all).

I just don't believe any of it. . . sounds like he's full of **** and trying to incite a race riot.

Is this what we've come down to - believing anything that's on the internet as if it's some sort of truth.

I nominate this as post of the year. No restaurant sends away 24 customers, and no manager would send away 24 minorities. This sounds like a total fabrication.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

What one person considers well-behaved, another may not. It is pretty subjective. That said, as a white person I have never been told for my group to leave a restaurant (if by never you mean about a dozen times)
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

People need to chill. Literally nobody in this thread knows what happened. We're all evaluating the situation from our knowledge and beliefs about the world. Some people - as a result of their knowledge and belief - are more likely to believe the story and others - as a result of their knowledge and belief - are more likely to not believe the story. Insulting people because they aren't being skeptical enough or because they are too skeptical is pointless. Just accept that some people believe it and others don't.

True, nobody really knows. Which is why I don't understand everyone who is jumping to defend the owners when they don't really know what happened, they just know that there's an accusation of racism and jump to "It must be false."
 
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I would like to know the rest of the story, if anyone finds it. People don't just get kicked out for waiting around, black or not. Something had to have happened.
 
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Bad business decision. The manager took out 25 customers in order to pacify a singe racist one? If the single customer felt threatened then he did the right thing for himself by leaving. The manager should be fired. If I owned the place, I would fire him.
The primary problem in this issue is, we just don't know what happened, and people are taking the bit, then running with it, completely uninformed as to what happened.
 
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The entire thing smells like made up BS to me.

If it did happen: I see 'a customer complaint' as an excuse by management to dodge a blow. . . because since WHEN does any restaurant kick out '24 well behaving PAYING patrons' because ONE PERSON claimed they felt threatened?

I'd like actual evidence it even happened. I wouldn't put it past someone to just make up a baseless accusation because they were peeved at the service (for no reason, even) - Evidence that it happened would be surveillance footage. We could then see:

1) How the group was behaving (if they were really there)
2) Another customer actually complained (if it really happened)
3) They were kicked out as a result of that complaint (if it really happened)

If it even happened at all - it just might be a made up story beginning to end - which I think it is. Who in the hell supposedly waits for two hours to eat, anyway? That's the gist - they weren't even IN the restaurant. What were they supposedly doing? Chilling out in the parking lot for two hours? I don't think so - who in the hell would DO THAT?

There is no evidence - this all started because of a Facebook post . . . and I'm not going to be the idiot who believes any of it without any sort of PROOF.

Restaurants send away people who misbehave.
They send away people because they are a group of TWENTY FOUR waiting for 2 hours and there's still no seating for TWENTY FOUR people. (This is what I expect happened - and the race/customer complaint is made up. If it happened at all).

I just don't believe any of it. . . sounds like he's full of **** and trying to incite a race riot.

Is this what we've come down to - believing anything that's on the internet as if it's some sort of truth.

I was thinking maybe the "white" person had a personal problem with one of the group and he wanted to mess with them.

I have been in a lot of resturants and I can't imagine any of them ejecting 24 paying customers for something one person said.

That doesn't make financial sense.
 
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It could very well be a case of racism, but we really only have one side of the story here. Perhaps we should get it all before we start jumping to conclusions?

Have you met Debate Politics?
 
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The entire thing smells like made up BS to me.

If it did happen: I see 'a customer complaint' as an excuse by management to dodge a blow. . . because since WHEN does any restaurant kick out '24 well behaving PAYING patrons' because ONE PERSON claimed they felt threatened?

I'd like actual evidence it even happened. I wouldn't put it past someone to just make up a baseless accusation because they were peeved at the service (for no reason, even) - Evidence that it happened would be surveillance footage. We could then see:

1) How the group was behaving (if they were really there)
2) Another customer actually complained (if it really happened)
3) They were kicked out as a result of that complaint (if it really happened)

If it even happened at all - it just might be a made up story beginning to end - which I think it is. Who in the hell supposedly waits for two hours to eat, anyway? That's the gist - they weren't even IN the restaurant. What were they supposedly doing? Chilling out in the parking lot for two hours? I don't think so - who in the hell would DO THAT?

There is no evidence - this all started because of a Facebook post . . . and I'm not going to be the idiot who believes any of it without any sort of PROOF.

Restaurants send away people who misbehave.
They send away people because they are a group of TWENTY FOUR waiting for 2 hours and there's still no seating for TWENTY FOUR people. (This is what I expect happened - and the race/customer complaint is made up. If it happened at all).

I just don't believe any of it. . . sounds like he's full of **** and trying to incite a race riot.

Is this what we've come down to - believing anything that's on the internet as if it's some sort of truth.

most places like this have tables and/or booths that seat 4. if it was a busy night, IOT seat 24 people they would have had to leave table sitting empty until they had 6 available tables. If you have a group that freaking big, call ahead. From what I read, they never even made it into the place but were waiting (either outside or in the entrance) for seating. you get 24 people standing around talking, things are going to get loud as people try to talk over each other.
 
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True, nobody really knows. Which is why I don't understand everyone who is jumping to defend the owners when they don't really know what happened, they just know that there's an accusation of racism and jump to "It must be false."

and how is that any different from those who just know that there's an accusation of racism and jump to "It must be true"?
 
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and how is that any different from those who just know that there's an accusation of racism and jump to "It must be true"?

It isn't.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

True, nobody really knows. Which is why I don't understand everyone who is jumping to defend the owners when they don't really know what happened, they just know that there's an accusation of racism and jump to "It must be false."

because the word has been so overused that it's losing its' impact and the people who use it as an excuse whenever something happens that they don't like are looked at with skepticism. ..but I'm sure that's a "racist" opinion.... :roll:


racism (noun)
An undetectable (yet very real) :roll: “systemic, societal, institutional, omnipresent, and epistemologically embedded phenomenon that pervades every vestige of our reality” forcing brown or black-skinned people to fail out of school, smoke crack, not get a job, abandon their kids, contract AIDS, commit every crime at a staggering rate, and underperform on culturally unbiased tests of highly heritable cognitive abilities,

In minorities, the leading cause of depression, death, animal and child abuse, tears, impotence, low self-esteem, persistent whining, bad weather, the common cold, unemployment, inability to assimilate, high taxes, crime, poverty, welfare, congestive heart failure, global warming, global cooling,....etc...essentially the cause of any condition or event that a minority doesn't like or approve of. Literally the worst thing in the entire world.

racist (adjective)

1. Expressing, suggesting, or hinting at discomforting truths about race.

2. Failing to sufficiently denigrate and discriminate against whites.

3. Directed at a white person by a non-white person: causing the speaker, or some (actual or hypothetical) like-race individual, to feel (or suspect that he may feel) unwanted, uncared for, unlikeable, uneasy, uncomfortable, upset, angry, guilty, hurt, cross, inferior, or stupid in some way, usually by the offending party being racist (def. 1), being racist (def. 2), or saying something like "crime rates are disproportionately high among minorities" Derogatory. Punishable by death in most jurisdictions. Often rendered "raciss", as in "you raciss" and "das raciss".

EDIT;
I got this in a forwarded email and the original source is unknown or I would gladly attribute it.
 
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and how is that any different from those who just know that there's an accusation of racism and jump to "It must be true"?

Good point. I'm not jumping to any conclusions. Maybe there was a good reason that we don't know about. On the other hand, maybe it was racism.
 
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At least you're honest about this. Few things annoy me more than people with prejudice denying their prejudice.

Few things annoy me more than someone who feel they have to show the world how they are beyond anything that might be construed as racism. It must be a horrible life when you feel you must prove yourself to complete strangers.
 
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because the word has been so overused that it's losing its' impact and the people who use it as an excuse whenever something happens that they don't like are looked at with skepticism. ..but I'm sure that's a "racist" opinion.... :roll:


racism (noun)
An undetectable (yet very real) :roll: “systemic, societal, institutional, omnipresent, and epistemologically embedded phenomenon that pervades every vestige of our reality” forcing brown or black-skinned people to fail out of school, smoke crack, not get a job, abandon their kids, contract AIDS, commit every crime at a staggering rate, and underperform on culturally unbiased tests of highly heritable cognitive abilities,

In minorities, the leading cause of depression, death, animal and child abuse, tears, impotence, low self-esteem, persistent whining, bad weather, the common cold, unemployment, inability to assimilate, high taxes, crime, poverty, welfare, congestive heart failure, global warming, global cooling,....etc...essentially the cause of any condition or event that a minority doesn't like or approve of. Literally the worst thing in the entire world.

racist (adjective)

1. Expressing, suggesting, or hinting at discomforting truths about race.
2. Failing to sufficiently denigrate and discriminate against whites.
3. Directed at a white person by a non-white person: causing the speaker, or some (actual or hypothetical) like-race individual, to feel (or suspect that he may feel) unwanted, uncared for, unlikeable, uneasy, uncomfortable, upset, angry, guilty, hurt, cross, inferior, or stupid in some way, usually by the offending party being racist (def. 1), being racist (def. 2), or saying something like "crime rates are disproportionately high among minorities" Derogatory. Punishable by death in most jurisdictions. Often rendered "raciss", as in "you raciss" and "das raciss".

Making up definintions again, I see.

Would you say it's possible, or are you just going to dismiss it without knowing the facts?
 
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I don't feel the need to succumb to political correctness. I don't go out looking for friends of a particular color in order to prove to those who don't know me that I am not a racist. I have worked with blacks in machine shops most of my career. We got along, had a good time and, God forbid, even enjoyed lunch together. Just because they never invited me to their houses did not make me think they were racist. The fact that they spent more time with those of their own color did not make me think they were racist, just like none of them ever accused me of racism. Now someone like you comes along and after reading a few words I posted makes this claim. Just why should I care at all what someone like you thinks of me?
Everyone on here is a racist. LOL
I worked in management at Waste Management for over a deacade. 75% black workforce.
We all got along just fine. But the baiters dont want to hear that. Their comment is that we must have just "tolerated" each other long enough to get a pay check.
In reality thought, the biggest fighters in the group? The Mexicans vs the Cubans. Man they would actually go at in the parking lot.
 
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I'm not asking for anything that dramatic. But the manager who handled the affair should suffer some economic repercussions. either a downcut in payment for a period of time or he will be sacrificed at the alter of unemployment if the diner feels that's what it needs to do to redeem some of its PR.

You are trying to blow it up and make ridicule of the situation. I don't find it funny and I don't appreciate you trying to deflate the situation by blowing it out of proportions. Not the situation as much as... the desired outcome.

Nobody I think, is advocating for anything more than that. White people have no guilt in this matter.

Did you listen to the interview with the spokesman for the group?

He said the manager told him there was an issue with another patrón but they were not asked to leave until the filming started.

How can that be construed as racist?
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Making up definintions again, I see.

Would you say it's possible, or are you just going to dismiss it without knowing the facts?

No..It's called "humor" and "purposely exaggerating for effect"

I don't know or care if the story is true or not.

What do you mean "making up definitions AGAIN"....? care to substantiate that claim?
 
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Of course they wouldn't, it's South Carolina the state that started the Civil War.
I'm not sure if you've ever been there but Charleston is a very liberal city. I'm surprised by the claims made at the restaurant and if they are accurate it's not something that's going to be tolerated there.

The Chief marketing officer for the wild wing cafe chain is investigating the incident. She said:

"It's not an us vs. them — we really join them in their concern," said the chief marketing officer, Debra Stokes. "We have a zero tolerance of any kind. We have a diverse collection of individuals within our organization. We have always prided ourselves on inviting everyone into our restaurants."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...eston-wild-wing-cafe-black-americans/2704125/
 
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Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Who are you quoting?
Haven't you been listening to the black activist? Only whites can be racist; blacks are incapable of such action.
 
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