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YouTube Wants Users' Real Names Displayed On Comments, Uploads

I think sperm donors should have to use their real names.

That's the topic, right?
 
I noticed that when my local paper started requiring that commentators use their facebook profile to comment on stories, comments on most stories ended except for a handful of the same old same old crowd. I was amused. I had made some scathing comment on a story using an off-the-cuff name one time and then about a week later I was flipping stations and ended up on the local government channel where the women speaking was addressing my comments one by one at some rally they were having. It had to do with them wanting to expand the Historical District to include a pretty large all residential area and I was pointing out all the specific incidents where owners suffered greatly as a result of being in the existing district. Fortunately for those who live in the area, the thing was rejected.
 
Not that I care, but have any of you ever considered the possibility that even if YouTube were to put out the user's real names, many will simply choose to give fake names? What is YouTube gonna do? Ask us to e-mail them a piece of ID?
 
Solution: ban comments.

You don't lose anything of value, and save storage space.
 
Hatuey said:
Not that I care, but have any of you ever considered the possibility that even if YouTube were to put out the user's real names, many will simply choose to give fake names? What is YouTube gonna do? Ask us to e-mail them a piece of ID?
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LOL google already knows your real name even if you lie LOL. And people whine a out the NSA...
 
Fiddytree said:
Solution: ban comments.

You don't lose anything of value....
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For those with video series - not just a crappy camcorder job, etc, you lose a lot - on-video feedback specific to the video and easily accessed.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
I already hate how youtube keeps throwing "Use your real name!" pages in my damn face every once in a while. If they make it mandatory ill just move onto other sites. I dont need some crazy **** tracking me down cuz I called him a poindexter on some martial arts video.
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Or you could stop posting asshole youtube comments.

I presume you post asshole youtube comments, because all youtube comments are this way. ****, I think Youtube should start putting your address next to comments!
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Of course, I tried to find an article about Huffington Post requiring real-names (that prompted this post). However, I couldn't find an article worth quoting on this issue.

YouTube Wants Users' Real Names Displayed On Comments, Uploads



It's definitely not for me. I do not, never will, need or want my ex husband to find me online and harass me like he did in the past. If my name eeks out just once, he will make contact with me, again. He has no reason not to, and it won't be for old-time's sake, or to even see the children that he is the sperm donor of. It's only been to harass me online. Not even in a 'bullying' sense but a 'hey - haha' or 'you shouldn't say that.' sense. He doesn't belong in my life and I reserve the right to keep him out.

I behave myself, and when I don't, the forum I misbehave on comes down on me (aka: I get the occasional thread-ban here on Debate Politics). This works for me, I don't need to tell everyone WHO I am, some things are not allowed - we have administrators who keep a handle on things pretty well.

It bothers me that You Tube / Google did this automatically in the past and I had to go into my account and conceal my real name. What this makes me regret is ever giving them my real name to begin with. When I first signed up for Youtube, it wasn't Google, it wasn't connected to my real-name account, and I rarely use it to comment/ etc. I listen to music, put together playlists, and share those with friends online. Nothing dramatic. However, I don't need people from my real life to FIND me.

That is my right - and if they start insisting I show my real name I will close my account.

Already, I have all of my accounts set up without my real name. I have a DBA pseudonym I use when absolutely necessary, but never my real name. . . which brings up another thought of mine: how do they know it's a 'real name' - when all you give is a first (could be fake) and last (could be fake) name. It really means nothing if someone thinks about it ahead of time.
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Yeah, I noticed this the other day. I was trying to watch a music video and it kept popping up asking me to link my real name. I'll never do it. And if they make it mandatory, I'll delete my youtube account and make a new one with a fake name.
 
Slyfox696 said:
This is one of those issues where it's very difficult to take a side. On one hand, obviously this involves a huge privacy concern. On the other hand, "trolls" are arguably worse than ever before. Trolling is no longer in art form, it's just turned into people being mean and hateful. Mean and hateful online people have caused many problems, including violence and suicide.

If I were YouTube/Google, I'd probably do this too. Not necessarily because I'd want to know everyone's name (though I'm sure Google does), but simply for purposes of CYA. I would do it for legal reasons, even if I did not like it at all.
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I have to disagree. There is no right you have in this world to not be criticized, hear mean things, or avoid insults. The moment you start forcing people to be nice is the same moment your outlaw legitimate criticism because it is not a nice thing to hear you did something wrong or bad. Just by writing a law that language taken to be offensive is criminal uyou end up giving every oversensitive whiny little twat the power to take your speech away. I am aware this is just youtube, but this sort of idea plays to the bigger issue of trolling and online meanness.

At what point do we tell these whiny little brats to suck it up and deal with the world? Someone makes a rude comment on your youtube video and then you are so bothered by that you kill yourself? I have a hard time blaming the troll in that case because killing yourself over someone's online words is psychologically bad. Again, do not get me wrong, if someone is out there showing up on your doorstep, mailing letterbombs to you, or using your persona info to cause problems in your life then I am all for youtube giving them up to authorities and having them charged with real crimes. I also have to wonder how much you give encouragement to suicide to a distraught and irrational person to kill themselves by promising punishment to the people they hate. Some of these whiny little turds are nucking futz. There has been a few times I have had threats leveled at me that the person would kill themselves and the cops are going to throw me in jail. Sure, all but one has never done such a thing, but these people who take online drama so seriously have a distorted view of reality and they are taking these ideas that trolls will be punished for saying boo to you and actually believing their suicide will show all those people who insulted them.

I have to agree with other people also. I do not want my job searching for my real name and coming up with my youtube links to MLP, anime, TYT, or programs like scamschool and getting the wrong idea or firing me because they find it weird or offensive. Think about all the trouble we could get in with our powsts here if they were under our real name and some person of the opposite political alignment decided to show us and get us fired. The damage that could be done to people over what should be free is much worse than the damage done to insecure little screwballs who need to recognize some person saying FU to you online is simply not important. We have known for years that to be a celebrity and have your life open to criticism is to invite negative opinions and abuse. Now we have the internet and all these little turds want to think what they had for lunch, or the goofball little video they posted makes them famous and important, but they do not want any of the negatives that come from getting noticed. No one guarantees everything in your life will be pleasant and good, and some of these people need to realize that.

Give them the ability to delete comments and report abusive posts and ignore the crap if they want to, but giving out people's real names is only going to play into the hands of some of the more warped little whiners when they do seek out revenge for some words online. Most of the rudest trolls online may be mean and assholes, but they do not come off as crazy as some of the oversensitive insecure crazies who cannot take a single negative opinion of them without making it some kind of world ending drama.
 
This could be the boost Dailymotion needs to become relevant.
 
I used to have a Youtube account, until they sold out to Google. When Google posted it's new rules I deleted my account rather than accept them. Then Google did exactly what I expected; it turned Youtube into an advertising mess, with lots of deleted "copyrighted" videos, and intrusive rules up the Wazoo. Besides which, who wants to deal with Vevo?

Now I just check to watch some music videos once in a while, until I can't put up with the invasive advertising.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Of course, I tried to find an article about Huffington Post requiring real-names (that prompted this post). However, I couldn't find an article worth quoting on this issue.

YouTube Wants Users' Real Names Displayed On Comments, Uploads



It's definitely not for me. I do not, never will, need or want my ex husband to find me online and harass me like he did in the past. If my name eeks out just once, he will make contact with me, again. He has no reason not to, and it won't be for old-time's sake, or to even see the children that he is the sperm donor of. It's only been to harass me online. Not even in a 'bullying' sense but a 'hey - haha' or 'you shouldn't say that.' sense. He doesn't belong in my life and I reserve the right to keep him out.

I behave myself, and when I don't, the forum I misbehave on comes down on me (aka: I get the occasional thread-ban here on Debate Politics). This works for me, I don't need to tell everyone WHO I am, some things are not allowed - we have administrators who keep a handle on things pretty well.

It bothers me that You Tube / Google did this automatically in the past and I had to go into my account and conceal my real name. What this makes me regret is ever giving them my real name to begin with. When I first signed up for Youtube, it wasn't Google, it wasn't connected to my real-name account, and I rarely use it to comment/ etc. I listen to music, put together playlists, and share those with friends online. Nothing dramatic. However, I don't need people from my real life to FIND me.

That is my right - and if they start insisting I show my real name I will close my account.

Already, I have all of my accounts set up without my real name. I have a DBA pseudonym I use when absolutely necessary, but never my real name. . . which brings up another thought of mine: how do they know it's a 'real name' - when all you give is a first (could be fake) and last (could be fake) name. It really means nothing if someone thinks about it ahead of time.
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Well, in the article, it says that they "encourage" it, but it's still your choice as to whether you use your real name or not.

now allows users the option of using their Google+ profile, or their real name, in order to "give you more options for how your videos are seen and discovered on YouTube" while acknowledging that "using your full name isn’t for everyone.
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Aunt Spiker said:
LOL - Well I could have used his name but I aim to protect his anonymity, too. He's not even 'dad on paper' because he signed away his parental rights - I don't know what else you want me to call him. "The teenage boy who was their biological father but signed away his parental rights?" LOL - 'sperm donor' gets the point across with minimal effort, don't you think? To be given the honor "father" you have to BE a father. He left when our son was 6 days old. Father? No. . . and that's beside the point.
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You seem to be using the terms father and daddy interchangably. I helped to raised two kids that I did not father, yet recieved father's day gifts from them but they were always addressed to daddy (they knew their biological father and had occasional contact with him) they often referred to their father as being their Christmas and birthday daddy.
 
I agree.

Forcing people to use their real name could have real life consequences for ones opinions.

Say, if you are applying for a job and the boss man is politically different from you and sees a comment he doesn't like from you on the internet with just a simple search.... No job.
 
Caine said:
I agree.

Forcing people to use their real name could have real life consequences for ones opinions.

Say, if you are applying for a job and the boss man is politically different from you and sees a comment he doesn't like from you on the internet with just a simple search.... No job.
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But it's not forced. They are encouraging people to use their real names but it's still just an option.
 
ChrisL said:
But it's not forced. They are encouraging people to use their real names but it's still just an option.
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Im not talking about now...... Im talking about increasing trend towards it.

Regardless.... thats why its so easier to just use a fake name when filling out the information.
 
Good it make speople more accountable and might deter online bullyig and trolling.
 
Caine said:
Im not talking about now...... Im talking about increasing trend towards it.

Regardless.... thats why its so easier to just use a fake name when filling out the information.
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With all the weirdos on the internet, I certainly would use an alias. I don't know if a site like YouTube or any other type of "entertainment" web site would ever mandate such a thing though because I'm sure they know they'd use a lot of traffic.
 
tererun said:
I have to disagree. There is no right you have in this world to not be criticized, hear mean things, or avoid insults.
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And there is no right in this world to be allowed to say those things anonymously either. If you don't want YouTube to have your name, don't give it to them. If you want to say mean things on YouTube, then put your real name beside it.

Just by writing a law that language taken to be offensive is criminal uyou end up giving every oversensitive whiny little twat the power to take your speech away. I am aware this is just youtube, but this sort of idea plays to the bigger issue of trolling and online meanness.
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But the fact it's not a law is a HUGE difference. I would not agree with a law which forces people to be nice. I would not even agree with a law requiring people use their real names on the Internet. But we're not talking about a law (as you acknowledged) we're talking about YouTube.

At what point do we tell these whiny little brats to suck it up and deal with the world?
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Which whiny little brats? The ones complaining they can no longer troll anonymously?

Someone makes a rude comment on your youtube video and then you are so bothered by that you kill yourself? I have a hard time blaming the troll in that case because killing yourself over someone's online words is psychologically bad.
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So...psychologically bad means we should be okay with children killing themselves? I'm not sure if I can go along with your position on this one.

I have to agree with other people also. I do not want my job searching for my real name and coming up with my youtube links to MLP, anime, TYT, or programs like scamschool and getting the wrong idea or firing me because they find it weird or offensive.
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Then don't put it on there.

You seem to be wanting your cake and to eat it too. You want other people to suck it up (you know, the people who might kill themselves) but you don't want to suck it up because your job might find out you are a Bronie (I assume you are male? Everyone on the Internet is until proven otherwise). Ignoring for a moment the fact I would see this as a legal issue for YouTube more than anything else, it seems as if you want to hold people to a higher standard than you want to hold yourself to.

Think about all the trouble we could get in with our powsts here if they were under our real name and some person of the opposite political alignment decided to show us and get us fired.
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Think of how many more people might be alive, or suffering from less psychological trauma if they were being bullied and harassed anonymously online.

The damage that could be done to people over what should be free is much worse than the damage done to insecure little screwballs who need to recognize some person saying FU to you online is simply not important.
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We'll just have to disagree on this point. I find it hard to believe (as in it could never happen) that my employer would fire me for my political views and if my employer did, I probably wouldn't want to work for that person anyways. But even if I do accept that premise, I dare say being unemployed is a far better result than a child killing his or herself. But, then again, I have a real soft spot for children.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
You seem to be using the terms father and daddy interchangably. I helped to raised two kids that I did not father, yet recieved father's day gifts from them but they were always addressed to daddy (they knew their biological father and had occasional contact with him) they often referred to their father as being their Christmas and birthday daddy.
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This is a good example of how people avoid the main topic by focusing on semantics.

Does that matter to the main point of the OP? No. If you're bothered by it then start another thread on the use of this term in today's modern culture and discuss it in depth there.

Here - I did it for you: http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-topic-discussion/170724-term-sperm-donor.html
 
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