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BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue in

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People really need to stop talking about this, there is no conspiracy or scandal here. Get over it!

Sure... but first provide some proof to the contrary. Or should we just take your word for it?
 
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You do no the news in those is either not real or just a parady...right?

Those were the only two examples I could cite that would not cause controversy.

Yes the two examples I cited are meant to be parodies or fake, but there are media sources that are hyper partisan, like the drudge report, daily kos, red state, or rightwingwatch. They may present stories and news, but is presented in such partisan perspectives that the facts become lost.

And any media that does not provide a source for the story is questionable.
 
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Those were the only two examples I could cite that would not cause controversy.

Yes the two examples I cited are meant to be parodies or fake, but there are media sources that are hyper partisan, like the drudge report, daily kos, red state, or rightwingwatch. They may present stories and news, but is presented in such partisan perspectives that the facts become lost.

And any media that does not provide a source for the story is questionable.

If the 'source' is a whistle blower or the one who over heard the original conversation, it's impossible to provide a link.

Most stories have such a beginning.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

"There will be no boots on the ground in Libya"
"12 known CIA agents had their boots on the ground at the time."
Where do the lies begin and where do they end?
 
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That article is all ate up.

Assuming that anyone in their right mind would have authorized an AC130U firing into a populated urban area of an (nominally) allied nation in the first place, a very unlikely eventuality, it would had to have been off station prior to first light due to the threat of portable surface-to-air missiles (the search for which is what had brought former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty to Lybia in the first place).

That's pretty much SOP for all AC130 missions anywhere in the world. I've read numerous accounts of them being pulled off station in both Iraq and Afghanistan due to daylight and I've heard personal accounts from guys who were on the ground fighting when it happened.

Consequently that aircraft wouldn't have been in a position to render any support to the fight on the ground at the time the insurgents (or whatever we're gonna call them) started in with their mortar attacks at the CIA annex.

A Special Forces team might have been able to render some support but you're talking about 12 guys with guns vs. a virtual sea of insurgents with heavy weapons. Our SOF are super men, but they're not Superman. I fail to see how 12 men, even 12 very, very well-trained men, would have made all that much difference.

If the aircraft had been sent it would likely have been mostly useless because there wasn't any serious sustained fighting at the annex until after sunrise and that assumes that the President would have given it permission to open fire into a civilian neighborhood.

If the SF team had been sent it's likely they would have died in place along with the former Navy SEALs.

Given the nature of that fight the author of that article is giving them far too much credit.

CIA operatives where on the roof top targeting the enemy position with a targeting lazar. first a roof top is the worse place to be during a mortar attack unless you have a every good reason to be there. second you don't use a targeting lazar unless there is something ready available to use that lazar to acquire a target
 
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Doug Ross @ Journal: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue in Benghazi

Confidential sources close to Conservative Report have confirmed that Valerie Jarrett was the key decision-maker for the administration, the night of the Benghazi terrorist attack on 9/11/2012.

After all this time... where was Obama?
He seems to have been AWOL. Derelict.

And... what is the New Amerikan Chain of Command?
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

I need to be a rightwing blogger.

My first post.

"Personal sources confirm Al Sharpton orchestrated IRS campaign against conservative groups".
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

After all this time... where was Obama?
He seems to have been AWOL. Derelict.

And... what is the New Amerikan Chain of Command?

Some have suggested it was BFF and cocaine night in the west wing but, who really knows. :lol:
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

"There will be no boots on the ground in Libya"
"12 known CIA agents had their boots on the ground at the time."
Where do the lies begin and where do they end?

So you're pretending that boots meant CIA agents and not GIs.

Yep, more dishonest memes from the tea party.

Did Obama send 200K troops to Lybia and spend $3T like Bush did in Iraq? Come on, you can say it.
 
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CIA operatives where on the roof top targeting the enemy position with a targeting lazar. first a roof top is the worse place to be during a mortar attack unless you have a every good reason to be there. second you don't use a targeting lazar unless there is something ready available to use that lazar to acquire a target

I've heard conflicting reports on that.

FOX News claimed initially that the GSR team on the roof was targeting the mortar team with a GLD, then they revised their story, citing a CIA source, to state that the GSR team never used a GLD to "paint" the mortar team but rather used the visible laser of an AN/PEQ-15 to sort of "warn off" folks on the gorund who they considered to be potential combatants.

So whose to be believed? FOX News or FOX News?

Honestly, I find it hard to believe that the GSR team would be painting anything with a GLD unless they knew that there were armed aircraft overhead that had been cleared to fire, and one thread in this whole story that seems to be pretty consistent is that the guys on the roof were exasperated/perplexed/concerned/frustrated because the air support that they assumed would be on its way to the rescue never materialized.

So they're calling for support and calling for support and calling for support, sending in their sitreps, waiting for something to show up and they're being told all along that nothing is available.

But they go ahead and unmask their laser anyway just because?

It doesn't make sense.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

I've heard conflicting reports on that.

FOX News claimed initially that the GSR team on the roof was targeting the mortar team with a GLD, then they revised their story, citing a CIA source, to state that the GSR team never used a GLD to "paint" the mortar team but rather used the visible laser of an AN/PEQ-15 to sort of "warn off" folks on the gorund who they considered to be potential combatants.

So whose to be believed? FOX News or FOX News?

Honestly, I find it hard to believe that the GSR team would be painting anything with a GLD unless they knew that there were armed aircraft overhead that had been cleared to fire, and one thread in this whole story that seems to be pretty consistent is that the guys on the roof were exasperated/perplexed/concerned/frustrated because the air support that they assumed would be on its way to the rescue never materialized.

So they're calling for support and calling for support and calling for support, sending in their sitreps, waiting for something to show up and they're being told all along that nothing is available.

But they go ahead and unmask their laser anyway just because?

It doesn't make sense.

and that is absurd those CIA operatives would not be on a roof top during a mortar attack using a visible lazar to give away their position. use common sense on occasion will you. they are not idiots

The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

The PJ Tatler » AC-130U Gunship was On-Scene in Benghazi, Obama Admin Refused to Let It Fire (Updated)
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

So you're pretending that boots meant CIA agents and not GIs.

Yep, more dishonest memes from the tea party.

Did Obama send 200K troops to Lybia and spend $3T like Bush did in Iraq? Come on, you can say it.

Stop ****in pretending. We all know what Obama and Elite Co. are doing in Libya. He is trying to softly conquer it with mostly word games. Their words dont mean ****. Their actions betray whats going on. America is hell bent on war and the administration is hell bend on appeasing when they can but not actually giving up anything. The only reason why we are in Libya is because Gadaffi was making oil worth gold instead of our little fake papers. Everything else is a feel good lie you all tell yourselves.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

Stop ****in pretending. We all know what Obama and Elite Co. are doing in Libya. He is trying to softly conquer it with mostly word games. Their words dont mean ****. Their actions betray whats going on. America is hell bent on war and the administration is hell bend on appeasing when they can but not actually giving up anything. The only reason why we are in Libya is because Gadaffi was making oil worth gold instead of our little fake papers. Everything else is a feel good lie you all tell yourselves.

Boy, if this isn't the most anemic attempt to explain a dishonest post, I don't know what is.

So how many troops did Obama send to Libya and how many Americans got killed in comparison to, say, Bush's vanity wars?

Come on, you can say it. I know you can.
 
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This woman is evil.
Just a heads up, that quote is lacking a source of any kind and can only be traced back to the depths and dumps of the right wing blogosphere, not unlike your OP.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

Just a heads up, that quote is lacking a source of any kind and can only be traced back to the depths and dumps of the right wing blogosphere, not unlike your OP.

It doesn't matter. It will be repeated and augmented on the rightwing blogosphere in the hope that some mainstream media source will run an article on it, which of course will prove it to be false, but then they'll keep siting it and repeating it no matter what.

That's how conservatives "think" nowadays.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

Some have suggested it was BFF and cocaine night in the west wing but, who really knows. :lol:

I think Obama might have been cowering in a corner, waiting for others to lead, as he did during the Arab Spring... and lo and behold... Valerie Jarrett seems to have strapped on some testicles and stepped in to fill the leadership void just in the nick of time... to tell our troops to let their brothers die on the battle field.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

Just a heads up, that quote is lacking a source of any kind and can only be traced back to the depths and dumps of the right wing blogosphere, not unlike your OP.


I only posted that to piss off Leftists. Thanks!
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

I need to be a rightwing blogger.

My first post.

"Personal sources confirm Al Sharpton orchestrated IRS campaign against conservative groups".

You'll never make it as a right wing blogger. Phony stories get no support from the right. Best you stick to the left.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

You'll never make it as a right wing blogger. Phony stories get no support from the right. Best you stick to the left.

i can refute that statement in three letters


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Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

and that is absurd those CIA operatives would not be on a roof top during a mortar attack using a visible lazar to give away their position. use common sense on occasion will you. they are not idiots

Read what you just said there.

those CIA operatives would not be on a roof top during a mortar attack using a visible lazar to give away their position

The CIA team was on the roof top. That's a fact.

There was a mortar attack while they were on the roof top. That's a fact.

The enemy walked their mortars onto the roof top (according to reporting by Jennifer Griffin of Fox News) using pretty standard "call for and adjust fire" TTPs. Thats' a fact.

The enemy succeded in killing the CIA team using those TTPs. That's a fact.

So one of two things happened.

Either the CIA team was using a visible laser and that was what allowed the enemy to identify their position and call for accurate mortar fire OR the CIA team was not using a visible laser but the enemy was able to find, fix, and eliminate them nevertheless.

If it was the former, okay, case closed.

If it was the latter, what harm would using a visible laser have caused?

So in terms of "using some common sense", either a visible laser was the cause or the visible laser is a non-starter.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

You'll never make it as a right wing blogger. Phony stories get no support from the right. Best you stick to the left.

That's the only thing that comes from the right now-a-days...phony stories.
 
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i can refute that statement in three letters


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Lois Lerner already refuted your refute.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

That's the only thing that comes from the right now-a-days...phony stories.

So says our leftist President and since he pulled those strings, the puppets say the same. It's like a third grade magic show.

Never mind the same leftist President has had different things to say but when the wind shifts, the puppets shift too.

Aw, to be a leftist and have no standards or values on anything. Never responsible or accountable for anything.
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

Lois Lerner already refuted your refute.

good
tell us what she said
 
Re: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Valerie Jarrett Gave the Orders on 9/11/2012 and Blocked Rescue

So says our leftist President and since he pulled those strings, the puppets say the same. It's like a third grade magic show.

Never mind the same leftist President has had different things to say but when the wind shifts, the puppets shift too.

Aw, to be a leftist and have no standards or values on anything. Never responsible or accountable for anything.

Cool story bro
 
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