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Rolling Stones and the Boston Bomber cover.

CanadaJohn said:
Really? What's the alternative? Star Chamber trials for uncomfortable defendants and crimes?
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How about not doing a story about him in a fairly popular magazine? There are other ways to learn about these people without putting their faces in 8 x 10 glossies on magazine and newspaper covers.
 
ChrisL said:
How about not doing a story about him in a fairly popular magazine? There are other ways to learn about these people without putting their faces in 8 x 10 glossies on magazine and newspaper covers.
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Did you hold the same views and speak out when Time was raking in $millions covering him and his brother?

Is it because the pic makes him look like tens of thousands of other average American teenagers and there's a growing number of Tsarnaev groupies in the US?

I appreciate the pic on the cover - it tells us that evil can live in the calmest, gentlest looking among us.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Did you hold the same views and speak out when Time was raking in $millions covering him and his brother?

Is it because the pic makes him look like tens of thousands of other average American teenagers and there's a growing number of Tsarnaev groupies in the US?

I appreciate the pic on the cover - it tells us that evil can live in the calmest, gentlest looking among us.
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And it helps him become a martyr for their "cause."
 
ChrisL said:
And it helps him become a martyr for their "cause."
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I'm guessing Rolling Stone isn't a big seller in Chechnya, Pakistan, Somalia, etc.

If you're suggesting that impressionable young Americans are going to become radicalized because of this pic on the cover of this magazine, I'd say if you really believe that, then you've got far bigger problems to deal with than a magazine cover.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I'm guessing Rolling Stone isn't a big seller in Chechnya, Pakistan, Somalia, etc.

If you're suggesting that impressionable young Americans are going to become radicalized because of this pic on the cover of this magazine, I'd say if you really believe that, then you've got far bigger problems to deal with than a magazine cover.
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What are you talking about, this wouldn't be the first "traitor" to America. There have been others in the past and will be more in the future. Terrorism is spreading around the world. It isn't just confined to Afghanistan and the like anymore.
 
ChrisL said:
What are you talking about, this wouldn't be the first "traitor" to America. There have been others in the past and will be more in the future. Terrorism is spreading around the world. It isn't just confined to Afghanistan and the like anymore.
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So who are the martyr worshipers your concerned about?
 
CanadaJohn said:
I appreciate the pic on the cover - it tells us that evil can live in the calmest, gentlest looking among us.
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Not that I disagree with you, but I think there is a better way of showing that then they did. They could have showed him sitting at a table with friends, which gives the same type of message, but not necessarily making him looking like Morrison
 
soccerboy22 said:
Not that I disagree with you, but I think there is a better way of showing that then they did. They could have showed him sitting at a table with friends, which gives the same type of message, but not necessarily making him looking like Morrison
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There are likely legal problems with such a picture - need to black out the others in the photo, etc. and not all those who knew/know him want the public at large to know that. But I get your point. The man looks the way he looks, though - you can't change that - and usually magazine covers are just headshots or full body shots and just one subject.

If you think about it, this is the reverse of the Trayvon Martin pics - with all the sweet pics of Trayvon, some from years ago put up as recent photos, people couldn't believe that such a sweet young boy could possibly beat up another man to the point where he was shot. Here you have a man who's been accused of doing terrible things and people are objecting to him being portrayed as a normal teenage kid.
 
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Wiseone said:
A magazine putting out an eye-catching and perhaps controversial cover to promote sales and interest?

Never....
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i suggest to promote sales, they put Hitler picture on the cover, and make statements to the effect of " was Hitler justified in his positions he held", want some controversies, and interest building, .........there you go.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Seriously? You're actually legitimately surprised? In a world where more and more people are getting their information online and less and less people are subscribing to magazines and newspapers, you are surprised that they would do this?
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Only 18% of readers actually read print magazines anymore; they're reading their magazines online. In Changing News Landscape, Even Television is Vulnerable | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

No, I'm not surprised that Jann Wenner (ick) has glorified a terrorist in this way. I'm surprised, because their numbers are declining, I think, that there are still significant numbers of people who find this in poor taste.
 
He kinda looks like a young Bob Dylan.
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Probably not the right picture to put on the cover if you're doing legitimate story on him. There are plenty of pics that don't make him look "hip" out there.
 
CanadaJohn said:
So who are the martyr worshipers your concerned about?
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You think I know them by name? If I knew that, I'd probably be working for the CIA or something. :roll:
 
Fishstyx said:
He kinda looks like a young Bob Dylan.
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Probably not the right picture to put on the cover if you're doing legitimate story on him. There are plenty of pics that don't make him look "hip" out there.
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You're right - he does look like a young Bob Dylan. I still don't think there's anything wrong with the cover, unless Bob Dylan is complaining.

The face of terrorism comes in many forms and if it makes people uncomfortable that in this case it comes in the form of a young Bob Dylan, then so be it.
 
CanadaJohn said:
The face of terrorism comes in many forms and if it makes people uncomfortable that in this case it comes in the form of a young Bob Dylan, then so be it.
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Yeah but there are pictures of him that doesn't make him look like a rockstar. Frankly, I could give a crap about this. Who actually reads Rolling Stone anyway.....kind of like MTV, should have stuck to music.
 
Apparently, Rolling Stone Magazine didn't advise it's sponsors in advance that it would be having such a controversial cover story. I guess a lot of the sponsors are very unhappy about that.
 
I doubt that if he looked like a "Middle Eastern jihadi" that he'd be on the cover...
 
CanadaJohn said:
You're right - he does look like a young Bob Dylan. I still don't think there's anything wrong with the cover, unless Bob Dylan is complaining.

The face of terrorism comes in many forms and if it makes people uncomfortable that in this case it comes in the form of a young Bob Dylan, then so be it.
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Good God! It has nothing to DO with what he looks like and everything to do with making him into a martyr for others with similar thoughts. I don't see how that is hard to understand.
 
Woodman909 said:
Perhaps reading the article will shed light as to it's purpose and objective. It appears to me to be an attempt to show facts, cause and effect. It is what journalism is supposed to do. Refreshing to see from this medium for a change.
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The issue is not the article itself its how they have presented it! That's why shops are boycotting the magazine and prominent politicians, journalists, celebrities have voiced their disgust at the front cover.


Rolling Stone's Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Cover Slammed By Boston Mayor
 
ChrisL said:
Apparently, Rolling Stone Magazine didn't advise it's sponsors in advance that it would be having such a controversial cover story. I guess a lot of the sponsors are very unhappy about that.
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Yes, thanks to the scourge of social media and the gang/mob mentality it generates, spineless sponsors run for the hills and abandon anything even remotely controversial. Instead of torches and pitch-forks, the new mob marches with Twitter and Facebook.

I'm just the opposite - if a business or company runs from controversy because the mob insists on it, I run from that company and support the abandoned one. I'll be picking up a copy of Rolling Stone today or tomorrow although I've never purchased a copy of the magazine ever before.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Yes, thanks to the scourge of social media and the gang/mob mentality it generates, spineless sponsors run for the hills and abandon anything even remotely controversial. Instead of torches and pitch-forks, the new mob marches with Twitter and Facebook.

I'm just the opposite - if a business or company runs from controversy because the mob insists on it, I run from that company and support the abandoned one. I'll be picking up a copy of Rolling Stone today or tomorrow although I've never purchased a copy of the magazine ever before.
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The sponsors reflect the feelings of their consumers. So you are in the minority.
 
ChrisL said:
Good God! It has nothing to DO with what he looks like and everything to do with making him into a martyr for others with similar thoughts. I don't see how that is hard to understand.
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It's hard to understand or credit because it's simply nonsense. People like Tsarnaev have been gracing the cover of magazines for decades - Osama bin Laden, Timothy McVey, Saddam Hussien, Jeffrey Daumer, etc. etc. etc. Did they all become martyrs with huge followings?

A little less drama and a lot more reason and sanity would be welcomed.
 
ChrisL said:
The sponsors reflect the feelings of their consumers. So you are in the minority.
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Some sponsors are worms who make rash decisions in order to save themselves from being the next target of the flash-mob.
 
CanadaJohn said:
It's hard to understand or credit because it's simply nonsense. People like Tsarnaev have been gracing the cover of magazines for decades - Osama bin Laden, Timothy McVey, Saddam Hussien, Jeffrey Daumer, etc. etc. etc. Did they all become martyrs with huge followings?

A little less drama and a lot more reason and sanity would be welcomed.
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Um, yes. I believe they are martyrs to those with similar mind sets. Did you know some serial killers and other horrible people actually get love letters while in prison, and even get married sometimes? There will always be those who admire these kind of people, obviously.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Some sponsors are worms who make rash decisions in order to save themselves from being the next target of the flash-mob.
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Good God! They are BUSINESSES. It is their JOB to cater to their consumers.
 
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