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GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

Obviously these schools put these regulations into place for a reason, it seems odd for the government to interfere with the school, because each individual school knows best.
 
iacardsfan said:
Obviously these schools put these regulations into place for a reason, it seems odd for the government to interfere with the school, because each individual school knows best.
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So school suspending a kid for making a gun out his hand playing a game or bringing in a little toy or wearing a t-shirt is the "school knowing best?" Do you honestly believe that?
 
Fishstyx said:
So school suspending a kid for making a gun out his hand playing a game or bringing in a little toy or wearing a t-shirt is the "school knowing best?" Do you honestly believe that?
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Yes, i do. Who knows how much that could escalate. It's ridiculous that the state holds the power to force schools into whatever they want simply because of the need for funding. Honestly why does it matter if kids can or cannot make a gun out of their hand, they're at school, not in a play or not in a shooting range, there is no need for that in a learning environment.
 
iacardsfan said:
Obviously these schools put these regulations into place for a reason, it seems odd for the government to interfere with the school, because each individual school knows best.
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Can't allow those pop tart guns. That stuff is dangerous.
 
iacardsfan said:
Yes, i do. Who knows how much that could escalate. It's ridiculous that the state holds the power to force schools into whatever they want simply because of the need for funding. Honestly why does it matter if kids can or cannot make a gun out of their hand, they're at school, not in a play or not in a shooting range, there is no need for that in a learning environment.
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Wow, you must been all business when you were a kid.
 
Henrin said:
Can't allow those pop tart guns. That stuff is dangerous.
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As i've said, there is no need for them in a learning environment. That is a stepping stone to other gun violence. Just what I want is my kid getting shot execution style from a kindergartner with a poptart gun. That isn't normal behavior.
 
Henrin said:
Wow, you must been all business when you were a kid.
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It's not that, it's the concept. You can play without pretending to hurt somebody with a gun. go home and do that with your friends, school isn't about that. There are plenty of other ways to get through a school day besides pretending to shoot one another.
 
iacardsfan said:
As i've said, there is no need for them in a learning environment. That is a stepping stone to other gun violence. Just what I want is my kid getting shot execution style from a kindergartner with a poptart gun. That isn't normal behavior.
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A pop tart gun isn't a stepping stone to anything except maybe their friend making their own pop tart gun.
 
iacardsfan said:
Yes, i do. Who knows how much that could escalate. It's ridiculous that the state holds the power to force schools into whatever they want simply because of the need for funding. Honestly why does it matter if kids can or cannot make a gun out of their hand, they're at school, not in a play or not in a shooting range, there is no need for that in a learning environment.
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During recess playing cops and robbers? Or showing off one of their toys? Its ridiculous that ANYONE would think that is reasonable.

Sorry, its not the schools' job to condition kids to be anti-gun. Thats something that kids should develop from their parents and life experiences.
 
iacardsfan said:
It's not that, it's the concept. You can play without pretending to hurt somebody with a gun. go home and do that with your friends, school isn't about that. There are plenty of other ways to get through a school day besides pretending to shoot one another.
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Like being boring. They're boys and they might just enjoy playing with toy guns or make things that look like guns. It's not a big deal and I assure you it does not lead to anything.
 
Henrin said:
A pop tart gun isn't a stepping stone to anything except maybe their friend making their own pop tart gun.
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Why is there a need for that in a learning environment though? There is none.
 
iacardsfan said:
Why is there a need for that in a learning environment though? There is none.
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They're eating pop tarts. It's not exactly a time when they're learning something.
 
Henrin said:
Like being boring. They're boys and they might just enjoy playing with toy guns or make things that look like guns. It's not a big deal and I assure you it does not lead to anything.
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I just don't understand why there can't be a better use of time. Guns are made for killing, simple as that, killing isn't for school.
 
iacardsfan said:
Yes, i do. Who knows how much that could escalate. It's ridiculous that the state holds the power to force schools into whatever they want simply because of the need for funding. Honestly why does it matter if kids can or cannot make a gun out of their hand, they're at school, not in a play or not in a shooting range, there is no need for that in a learning brainwashing/indoctrination environment.
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Fixed it for you.

How terrible that some bratty kid, in the process of being brainwashed, should dare to use his imagination in ways that his captors find disagreeable.
 
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iacardsfan said:
As i've said, there is no need for them in a learning environment. That is a stepping stone to other gun violence.
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iacardsfan said:
I just don't understand why there can't be a better use of time. Guns are made for killing, simple as that, killing isn't for school.
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And here, we see exactly the result that the corrupt vermin behind this brainwashing are trying to produce. Someone who sincerely believes that allowing children to play in ways that hint in any way at imaginary violence will lead them inevitably to real-life violence; and that we have to brutally suppress their imagination in order to prevent this from happening.

Meanwhile, my generation that grew up playing “cops and robbers” or “cowboys and Indians”, with toy guns that didn't even have the modern pussified orange muzzles, remains as it always has, less prone to unjustified violence than the younger generations that have been subjected to this brainwashing.
 
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iacardsfan said:
Why is there a need for that in a learning environment though? There is none.
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Imagination and play are vital parts of learning. They are vital parts of independent thought, especially among children.

Not so vital to producing a generation of pussified sheeple, who do whatever Big Brother tells them to do without question.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
Imagination and play are vital parts of learning. They are vital parts of independent thought, especially among children.

Not so vital to producing a generation of pussified sheeple, who do whatever Big Brother tells them to do without question.
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I'm not saying they need to answer to the call of the government, but there has to be more constructive ways that don't involve pretending to shoot somebody to use one's imagination.
 
iacardsfan said:
there's a big difference and you know that.
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Uh, no. Not really.
Nearly ALL of my recess days were spent playing games that would have killed someone if it was "real". Cops and Robbers, swordsmen, wrestlers, etc. That is a normal part of child development, seriously. Normal child development is the ONLY thing that is needed in a learning environment, especially at the age were talking about. Kids playing around at recess shouldn't be influenced by anyone but themselves, excepting the very rare cases where they put themselves in real danger. I can understand having a problem with play fighting in the classroom, but that has everything to do with the fact that they're in class instead of outside; whether they're acting like they have guns or not is beside the issue of whether they're paying attention in class.

My problem is essentially with trying to teach kids not to imagine stuff. It's like telling them they're bad if they think of the word "elephant". The anti-gun rules are just too broad; they make monsters out of normal children.
 
iacardsfan said:
I'm not saying they need to answer to the call of the government, but there has to be more constructive ways that don't involve pretending to shoot somebody to use one's imagination.
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Playing and use of imagination do not need to conform to your Procrustean ideas of “constructive”. In fact to do so would certainly defeat the point thereof.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
So the answer is defund the schools hurting the kids education?
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These children aren't being educated, their being indoctrinated. I'm glad my children were home-schooled.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Read more: GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns - The Hill's Floor Action

[/FONT][/COLOR][h=5]Ok so i think those "zero tolerance" rules are a bit drastic when it comes to "playing" with imaginary guns but i also think this bill is also a bit drastic supporting defunding of these schools that have these rules.[/h]
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Someone should donate some real guns to those schools, and maybe a few thousand targets with pictures of Liberals, progressives, socialist and communist on them, so that the schools can teach proper gun safety, marksmanship and target selection. Perhaps even fund pictures of Marx to put in toilets and urinals.
 
DVSentinel said:
Someone should donate some real guns to those schools, and maybe a few thousand targets with pictures of Liberals, progressives, socialist and communist on them, so that the schools can teach proper gun safety, marksmanship and target selection. Perhaps even fund pictures of Marx to put in toilets and urinals.
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And this is why we cant have nice things.
 
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