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GOP bill would defund schools with rules against playing with imaginary guns

I agree those rules are stupid, but defunding them seems like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. It's overkill.

Again, the defunding only happens if the schools don't change the rules. So the school boards and administrations would be the ones throwing out the baby.
 
It is when it's about God, guns, or gynecology.

Embryology is "lies from the pit of hell," according to Paul Broun. (R-GA)

A doctor with two children. I do wonder, when his wife had an ultrasound, what on earth did he think he was looking at? He's a medical doctor, not a biologist or physicist, so I can give him some leeway when he says the same thing about the Big Bang Theory and evolution. But embryology? What the hell are they teaching these people at UGA?
 
Again, the defunding only happens if the schools don't change the rules. So the school boards and administrations would be the ones throwing out the baby.

I don't care who's throwing what. If someone shoots their neighbor because they wouldn't turn the music down, I guess you could blame it on the neighbor for not adjusting the volume....
 
I think the people who believe in magic and invisible men are out to destroy the world.

These religions of Abraham are all death worshiping cults out to bring Armageddon.
 
Zero chance of passing the Senate, just pandering to the home crowd, a few minutes of fame for a right wing politician. :roll:

Is interesting to see how some 'conservatives' rant and rave about federal over reach but this seems that to me. Don't 'conservatives' decry this sort of 'big government' interference? If the 'zero tolerance' rules are so unpopular with the citizenry shouldn't locals do something about it? There are school board elections. Kick the bums out and put in school administrators who open carry and permit teachers to pack in the classroom.

Seems to me 'conservatives' at the local level are just as wimpy as the liberals they decry- looking to the big brother government to fix what they are well positioned to fix for themselves.
 
Again, the defunding only happens if the schools don't change the rules. So the school boards and administrations would be the ones throwing out the baby.

Which they are already doing in the first place, through the willful malfeasance of brainwashing and indoctrinating children that they are instead supposed to be educating.

If you are paying someone to do a job, and instead of doing the job that you are paying that person to do, he instead goes and does something else that is harmful to the purpose that he was supposed to be fulfilling for you, would you continue to pay him for that “service”?
 
I just looked it up.

http://www2.census.gov/govs/school/11f33pub.pdf

According to this source, public schools as a whole received 12.3% of their funding from the Federal Government. 87.3% comes from state and local sources. So then, this bill, if passed, would not be a "death penalty" in any way, shape, or form. What it actually says is that if the schools don't dump these ridiculous rules they face the prospect of losing(on average) 12.3% of their funding.

When properly framed, this puts the onus squarely at the feet of the school boards and administrators. If they lose 12.3% they have no one to blame but themselves.
 
I just looked it up.

http://www2.census.gov/govs/school/11f33pub.pdf

According to this source, public schools as a whole received 12.3% of their funding from the Federal Government. 87.3% comes from state and local sources. So then, this bill, if passed, would not be a "death penalty" in any way, shape, or form. What it actually says is that if the schools don't dump these ridiculous rules they face the prospect of losing(on average) 12.3% of their funding.

When properly framed, this puts the onus squarely at the feet of the school boards and administrators. If they lose 12.3% they have no one to blame but themselves.

They can blame the government for a stupid political stunt.
 
They can blame the government for a stupid political stunt.
Sure they can... and at the same time they would be, by default, making the statement that these stupid rules are worth more than 12.3% of their respective budgets.
 
Sure they can... and at the same time they would be, by default, making the statement that these stupid rules are worth more than 12.3% of their respective budgets.

They could be also saying we make our own rules mind your own business and they they won't be bullied by a political hack looking to stir the pot.
 
They could be also saying we make our own rules mind your own business and they they won't be bullied by a political hack looking to stir the pot.
Sure, I guess that could be it. Or it could be that they are also saying that they're such a bunch of ******s that they literally piss themselves at the horror of seeing some little kid make a pretend gun with his fingers and it's worth the 12.3% to not have to run home and change their clothes every day.
 
Zero chance of passing the Senate, just pandering to the home crowd, a few minutes of fame for a right wing politician. :roll:

Is interesting to see how some 'conservatives' rant and rave about federal over reach but this seems that to me. Don't 'conservatives' decry this sort of 'big government' interference? If the 'zero tolerance' rules are so unpopular with the citizenry shouldn't locals do something about it? There are school board elections. Kick the bums out and put in school administrators who open carry and permit teachers to pack in the classroom.

Seems to me 'conservatives' at the local level are just as wimpy as the liberals they decry- looking to the big brother government to fix what they are well positioned to fix for themselves.
The ONLY reason this country has a 21 year old drinking age and a .08 legal blood alcohol limit is because the Fed threatened to cut off highway funding to states that didn't comply.

Did you have a problem with it when that happened?
 
Sure, I guess that could be it. Or it could be that they are also saying that they're such a bunch of ******s that they literally piss themselves at the horror of seeing some little kid make a pretend gun with his fingers and it's worth the 12.3% to not have to run home and change their clothes every day.

Or they could be thinking the local community elected them to enforce local goals in education and a political hack should mind his own business. I bet that's the one.
 
Or they could be thinking the local community elected them to enforce local goals in education and a political hack should mind his own business. I bet that's the one.
The "pretend gun" is the sign language symbol for the word gun. They could just be saying that they hate the deaf.
 
How else would you remove these draconian and downright stupid rules from schools? Even with public outcry in opposition to them, they're still in place.

So government intrusion is the way to go?
 
Allowing schools to go so far overboard with these kind of policies is already hurting education. Schools need to be in the business of education, not brainwashing and indoctrination.

The most drastic plausible result of the policy proposed here would be to drive out of business those schools that indoctrinate and brainwash instead of educate. This is certainly a better result than allowing such schools to continue to operate in their current manner.

LOL so you hate it when government gets involved with forcing what you cons call the "Gay Agenda" is bad, but it's ok for government to get involved with gun handsigns? Gimme a break.
 
So government intrusion is the way to go?

What you talking about? Its all government. Public schools are part of the government, local government but government none the less. They take federal funds, the federal government can dictate what they want.

If they want a stupid rule about kids making a gun shape with their hands, toy guns or shirts with guns....go private. The federal government will absolutely no say.
 
What you talking about? Its all government. Public schools are part of the government, local government but government none the less. They take federal funds, the federal government can dictate what they want.

If they want a stupid rule about kids making a gun shape with their hands, toy guns or shirts with guns....go private. The federal government will absolutely no say.

So the federal government is now in charge of local dress codes hurra.

This is what I meant about the fringe left and right taking turns destroying freedom. I can't wait for the day some smart mouth kid makes a ass out of himself by being an indignant douche flaunting a t shirt that depicts gun violence. School just will have to let him cause trouble. Who needs education in school anyways.
 
Yeah, pretty sad its come to that...isn't it?

It is indeed.

So for our next trick someone on the left makes a law that says you can't wear a cross to school.

Then the right makes a law that says teachers have to provide an hour of silence to prayer.

Then the left make it illegal to have church bumper stickers on school property.

Then the right makes one where all business must allow people to be on their property with loaded guns.

on an on it goes.
 
...the federal government can dictate what they want.

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Really? Where in the consitution is that? Is it ok to force a "gay agenda" (as the right calls it) as well?
 
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