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Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity

Moot said:
What was the strawman?
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Trying to make the claim that liberal groups were equally targeted. They weren't. This is beyond refute. The IRS apologized for specifically targeting Tea Party and Religious groups for their beliefs.

No, you didnt.
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Yes we did. You have a poor memory. You'd tried this same stupid talking point in another thread and got shot down there too.

Are you calling me a liar, now?
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Yes

Yes, tea party groups got extra scrutiny but so did progressive groups....
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No they didn't. You're a liar. This pathetic and desperate talking point has already been refuted. There is no comparison between the two. Secondly if this is the narrative you're going to run with to try and excuse this nonsense that speaks volumes. So we're supposed to forget about the IRS acting like the Gestapo since they targeted everybody now? Is that what you're trying to say? Congress shouldn't investigate this fraud and corruption since the IRS allegedly targeted everyone? You didn't think your talking point through very far.

The spokeswoman told NPR, which called back to verify the accuracy of the quotes, that the inspector general was only asked to look at the targeting of Tea Party groups. The letter now asserts that the scope was much broader. "We reviewed all cases that the IRS identified as potential political cases and did not limit our audit to allegations related to the Tea Party.".....<snip>.....The letter further muddles what had already become a mess of selective information releases, partisan bomb-throwing and rhetorical hyperbole. But it makes it clear the inspector general believes Tea Party groups did have it worse than progressives. It also makes it clear progressive groups were among those that got added scrutiny as potential political cases.

Inspector General Changes Tune On IRS Scandal : It's All Politics : NPR
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The spokesman? Hahahaha

At least 250 Tea Party and Religious Groups were targeted and had their requests held up. All of their requests were sent to a special technical group for scrutiny. No such scrutiny existed for liberal groups. There is no comparative example of that many liberal groups you or anyone else can provide to try and make this a morally relative issue. Secondly this is exactly why we need a thorough investigation. Lastly, how does any of this excuse or absolve the IRS of anything? Oh that's right. It doesn't. NPR is Government controlled propaganda anyways.

Shame on me for not ignoring your flame baiting. After this post I probably will.
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You and a handful of other posters have repeatedly defended Fascism. Shame on you.

Conservatives applying for subsidized social welfare status is hypocricy at it's finest.
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Case in point. You defending Fascism. ^^^^^

A conservative by any other name is still a conservative. Prior to the Civil Rights Act most conservatives in the South were Democrats. But lately they've been switching to Libertarian, Independent, Centrist, Moderate....anything to distance themselves from the GOP Republicans. Apparently, the shame of having been a Republican was too overwhelming.
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Sorry they weren't Conservative. Al Gore's Father, Bill Clinton's Political Mentor and Robert Byrd never left the Democrat Party. They all filibustered the Civil Rights Act. Both parties are corrupt phonies. The fact that you're still an Obama sycophant and have no shame is comical and embarrassing.
 
You don't give immunity to someone that doesn't sign a statement that serves up the head of a worse criminal on a plate.

Between pleading the 5th and demanding immunity, she's got a huge guilty sign around her neck.
 
Kal'Stang said:
The court didn't. Congress did.

Besides which I always considered that a BS move. Unless a person specifically says that they wave those rights then they should be able to invoke it at any time no matter how much info they give prior to invoking it.
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I agree with you if we're talking about the formality of the courtroom. But this gal gave what amounted to self-serving testimony in her statement and THEN invoked the 5th. On the witness stand (the real deal), you don't make statements. You answer questions.
 
Bronson said:
You're just herp a derping now and acting like a clown

Still waiting for you to provide the quote where I said the IRS scandal = The Holocaust

Don't worry I know you won't because you're a fraud and a liar
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LOLing at Bronson calling apdst a fraud and a liar....


Can't keep track of who actually said what can you?
 
apdst said:
When Lincoln emancipated the slaves, he's a Left Wing Republican.
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Actually, emancipating the slaves was a fairly progressive idea. As was TR's trust busting.

I can't tell you how many times here I've seen conservatives decry Lincoln as one of the worst Presidents in history because he was an "evil lefty." I guess when you cherry pick your way through history claiming what you like for your side...
 
MaggieD said:
I agree with you if we're talking about the formality of the courtroom. But this gal gave what amounted to self-serving testimony in her statement and THEN invoked the 5th. On the witness stand (the real deal), you don't make statements. You answer questions.
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BUT, on the witness stand a person can plead the fifth at any time. If you'd rather drag her before Congress to answer every statement by a politician with pleading the Fifth.....well, OK. That's what they want because then they can listen to themselves talk, but it's really just a waste of time.
 
rocket88 said:
Actually, emancipating the slaves was a fairly progressive idea. As was TR's trust busting.

I can't tell you how many times here I've seen conservatives decry Lincoln as one of the worst Presidents in history because he was an "evil lefty." I guess when you cherry pick your way through history claiming what you like for your side...
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Thank you for illustrating my point.
 
iliveonramen said:
There's no doubt I would want immunity as well....it's a witch hunt.
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You mean the folks in Cincinnati are lying? You mean our IRS didn't target Conservatives?

No. It seems she wants immunity because she has a Whopper of a story to tell about her and the Obama Taxholes at the IRS/Gestapo. One that would cost her.

Too bad we don't have the Scooter Libby standard for Libs. Go after someone you know isn't related to the case (the leak), put them under oath and throw them in the can for not being able to recall trivial bits of info. The prison cells would be full of Libs... because lying is their game.

My bet is Frau Lerner is filling her Depends with the thought of testifying without immunity because of what she knows, and what she knows isn't obscure bits of trivia.

I say... no immunity, and make her a very, very public face of Obama's Culture of Corruption. Obama and the IRS Frau... makes a nice poster.... Obama's other woman and how she used the IRS as a Gestapo-like took of intimidation for the regime.
 
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