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Police Shoot Dog, gunshots caught on graphic video (NSFW)


I heard the music playing in the video. It really wasn't that loud (at least for anyone under 40). But cops will often throw in just about any charge to make themselves look better after an incident like this.
 
I heard the music playing in the video. It really wasn't that loud (at least for anyone under 40).
I have no doubt the camera had a limit to the volume of sound it could record. I've recorded firearms and when you play the video back the gun sounds like a small firecracker.
 
I couldn't find the intestinal fortitude to watch the video. I'm a dog lover and couldn't imagine one of my dogs protecting me being shot by the police acting as big brother. This is one reason I'm not a big fan of cops.

Never there when you need them and always there when you don't.
 
Saw the video last night.

Not sure why he was arrested... but

The dog was lunging at them and was obviously a threat. I'd shoot a dog that was trying to attack me, too. Especially a rotweiler.
Judging by the number of police cars, and the assault rifle carried by one of them, there was probably some serious **** going down. They weren't arresting him, they were restraining him. It's a safety precaution. They were likely just going to ask him a few questions, run his license to make sure he didn't have any warrants, tell him to stay out of there until the situation is clear, and send him on his way.

If a large dog (especially a rottweiler or a pit) charges at me like that, I'm going to shoot it. It was clearly acting in an aggressive manner, and presented itself as a threat.
 
Damn... your so good you should apply to be a judge and get on a bench...

You can judge someone's guilty or innocence so quickly you'd only work half days for the rest of your life.

:roll:

You have no clue what this person did or did not do.

I guess we should just all shut up and trust the police. How dare I voice my opinion of what happened in the video on a debate site! The audacity!
 
>" Hawthorne police Lt. Scott Swain said. "And I know it's the dog's master, and more than likely not going to attack him, (but) we've got a guy handcuffed that's kind of defenseless. We have a duty to defend him, too."

The shooting occurred about 7:15 p.m. Sunday at 137th Street and Jefferson Avenue about two hours after police surrounded a house where a gunman had robbed two people inside. A crowd of spectators gathered in response to the large police response, which included several police

Hawthorne resident Leon Rosby describes the moment his dog was shot numerous times by Hawthorne police. (Robert Casillas/Staff Photographer)cars and the department's Bearcat armored vehicle.

As some, including resident Gabriel Martinez, aimed their cellphones at the scene to record it, Rosby drove up in his rented black Mazda. Swain said Rosby stopped in the intersection with music blaring from his windows. Officers told him to turn down the music because they were trying to hear what was happening down the street. Rosby pulled forward, parked and got out with his dog, but left the music still playing loudly.

"It's distracting the officers," Swain said. "It's interfering with what they are able to hear. It's not just a party call. It's an armed robbery call. The officers need to hear what's going on with the people being called out of the residence. That music in

his car is bleeding over and it's distracting them."

Martinez said the Usher song "Tell Me Again" was looping over and over.

Rosby, who pulled out his own cellphone to record the police activity, did not lower the volume.

"I do apologize if I didn't immediately comply. The music may have been a little loud but I was complying," Rosby said. "I said, 'Sir, I want to make sure nobody's civil rights were being violated.' "

A neighbor, who asked not to be identified, said the officers asked him to turn the music down, but he refused. Rosby, she said, responded, "It's my (expletive) radio!" "<

Hawthorne police kill dog during arrest of owner, video of shooting goes viral - The Daily Breeze

Note: Rosby, the former dogs owner has had numerous run-ins and struggles with Hawthorne police officers. Court records show he has previous convictions for resisting, battery and driving under the influence.
 
The bigger question IMO is....where are the black officers??? If the city of Hawthorne looked more closely at its hiring process we wouldn't be shooting dogs and arresting our citizens...now would we.
 
The bigger question IMO is....where are the black officers??? If the city of Hawthorne looked more closely at its hiring process we wouldn't be shooting dogs and arresting our citizens...now would we.

There aren't that many black police officers who want to work in Hawthorne, with all of the black on black crime you would understand.

Hawthorne is no longer the white middle class suburb like when the Beach Boys grew up in Hawthorne. Lets put it this way, I pack when I'm in Hawthorne.

BTW: There are black officers on the Hawthorne P.D. They were up the street dealing withn a violent black armed robber who had barricaded himself in a house.

One of the jokes that Hawthorne P.D. officers kick around is that the predominantly black area of the city, Holly Park should be "bombed with napalm." I think it was a black Hawthorne PD officer who first said it.
 
I have a dog. My kind of a dog is perceived to be scary for they are Albanian Sheppard breed (Also named Shar dogs). My dog does not bites but runs and jumps at strangers sometimes, to which the natural response is to take shelter, ask my intervention, or protect themselves. If they had a gun like the police they would shoot my dog also.

It is sad to see a dog die while doing what it perceived to be the natural thing to do with every instinct in their body. But dogs can be aggressive and this one was too close.
 
A video of police shooting a dog to death in front of its owner has gone viral after being posted to Reddit Monday afternoon.

The dog owner, Leon Rosby, was taking video of police officers in Hawthorne, Calif. as they barricaded a house, CBS reports.

Another bystander behind Rosby was recording him, and can be heard saying that Rosby asked the police why there weren't any black cops present. This drew the attention of two Hawthorne police officers, who started to approach Rosby.

Rosby can then be seen putting his dog, which looks like a Rottweiler, into his car and voluntarily putting his hands behind his back to be arrested. As he was being handcuffed by the officers, the dog started barking and jumped out of the car.

As the dog approached the officers, barking, the police shot the dog several times. Police said they had no choice but to shoot as the dog lunged towards them.

Police Shoot Dog, Gunshots Caught On Graphic Video (NSFW, UPDATES)


I am confused, the man posed no threat to the officers, he only filmed them and made a comment from a considerable distance, was not interfering with the crime-scene or the duties of the officers and yet he was arrested and put into handcuffs.

Then they start (from what it appears) manhandling the arrested man (searching pockets I think but pretty heavy handed for someone who poses no threat and has cooperated with the arrest) which leads to his dog jumping out of the car in defense of it's owner and then they shoot the dog.

Now the dog might have been a threat, but if they had just sent the man on his way with a warning, not cuffed and manhandled him the dog would not have come to his defense and this would not have been necessary. More bad press for the police and it is for the biggest part all their own fault for handing this situation way too aggressively when this was not called for.

Based on the video I saw, shooting the dog was completely unnecessary. It ran at the officers, but stopped a few feet away from them and was just barking.
 
The bigger question IMO is....where are the black officers??? If the city of Hawthorne looked more closely at its hiring process we wouldn't be shooting dogs and arresting our citizens...now would we.
It seems the local black comunity is decidedly anti-cop. They can't be hired if they don't apply.
 
Based on the video I saw, shooting the dog was completely unnecessary. It ran at the officers, but stopped a few feet away from them and was just barking.
I would encourage you scim the thred and see what we had to say about the unedited video.
 
It seems the local black comunity is decidedly anti-cop. They can't be hired if they don't apply.

according to the wiki, they also make up less than 1% of the population.
 
And, as someone already pointed out, the Hawthorne Police Department doesn't have a stellar record itself. The individual was doing nothing that should be considered illegal. It is our duty as citizens to watch the watchers.



There is no reason to arrest someone standing behind the barricades and being vocal.



He knew a camera was on him. Of course he is going to be fully cooperative.



The owner did the right thing by putting the dog in the car. If you watch the video in full you would see the dog forcing its way through a partially opened window. The cops knew the dog was there and should have made sure he was completely secure before doing anything at all. At worst, give the man a ticket.



It was his neighborhood. As I already said, it should be every citizen's duty to make sure the police are doing their job ethically.



I can only speak on what I have seen through the testimony and video.


Don't serve on a jury, ever.
 
I would encourage you scim the thred and see what we had to say about the unedited video.

I've seen the unedited video now. I understand why they shot the dog. It did try to bite the one officer, but that officer was a ****ing moron. It should never have gotten to that point. The dog was already acting aggressively, and he reaches out twice to try and grab it. There were many better ways they could have handled that situation. The guy they were arresting was complying fully, they could have just taken the cuffs off for a second, and told him to go put the dog back in the car and roll the windows up this time. Or they could have just left it there to bark.

Or maybe, they could have just left the guy alone, since he wasn't doing anything but mouthing off and filming them, neither of which is ground for arresting him.
 
I've seen the unedited video now. I understand why they shot the dog. It did try to bite the one officer, but that officer was a ****ing moron. It should never have gotten to that point. The dog was already acting aggressively, and he reaches out twice to try and grab it. There were many better ways they could have handled that situation. The guy they were arresting was complying fully, they could have just taken the cuffs off for a second, and told him to go put the dog back in the car and roll the windows up this time. Or they could have just left it there to bark.

Or maybe, they could have just left the guy alone, since he wasn't doing anything but mouthing off and filming them, neither of which is ground for arresting him.
I would never advise a cop to uncuff someone they just arested. That's ****ing stupid. The aresting cop and the department are responsable for any and everything that happens to an arested person. That and cops don't know who this guy is and have to assume the worst.

The owner was the only one doing anything wrong. Its his own fault his dog is dead.

I only feel sorry for the dog.
 
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I would never advise a cop to uncuff someone they just arested. That's ****ing stupid. The aresting cop and the department are responsable for any and everything that happens to an arested person. That and cops don't know who this guy is and have to assume the worst.

Why do they have to assume the worst, when he already showed that he was willing to comply and go peacefully with them? He wasn't being belligerent, he didn't struggle, and when asked to, he walked over to them, immediately turned around and put his hands behind his back, and let them cuff him.
 
I would never advise a cop to uncuff someone they just arested. That's ****ing stupid. The aresting cop and the department are responsable for any and everything that happens to an arested person. That and cops don't know who this guy is and have to assume the worst.

The owner was the only one doing anything wrong. Its his own fault his dog is dead.

I only feel sorry for the dog.

As far as I can tell the arrestee did nothing illegal. As I've said before he might have been acting like a tool for talking back to the officer and not lowering the radio but neither of those are arrestable offenses. Filming the scene is without doubt Constitutionally protected.
 
Because when you don't that's when you get murdered.

No, sorry, that's no excuse. If there was any evidence to support the fact that the guy was dangerous, I could agree with that, but there was none. That's just paranoia.
 
I would never advise a cop to uncuff someone they just arested. That's ****ing stupid. The aresting cop and the department are responsable for any and everything that happens to an arested person. That and cops don't know who this guy is and have to assume the worst.

The owner was the only one doing anything wrong. Its his own fault his dog is dead.

I only feel sorry for the dog.

from what I read, the cops apparently told the man to put the dog in the car because he was going to be arrested. The fact the dumb-ass left his windows down, knowing full well that he wasn't going to be around, just speaks to his utter worthlessness
 
I've seen the unedited video now. I understand why they shot the dog. It did try to bite the one officer, but that officer was a ****ing moron. It should never have gotten to that point. The dog was already acting aggressively, and he reaches out twice to try and grab it.

That is more duediligence than most people would try under similar circumstances. And I honestly don't understand what you expect them to do at that point.


There were many better ways they could have handled that situation.

Hindsight is often 20/20 and you're not at an active crime scene, dealing with a man intent on causing a disturbance, and dealing with an aggressive animal, all within a crowd of people

The guy they were arresting was complying fully, they could have just taken the cuffs off for a second, and told him to go put the dog back in the car and roll the windows up this time.

lol. He had that chance when he originally put his dog in the car. His ineptitude is his own fault. No one else needs to be put in danger because retarded dog owners

Or they could have just left it there to bark.

And attack some random person? Great idea, Sherlock, nothing says common sense like letting an aggressive, large dog, who you have no idea of the temperament of, roam freely around a highly charged and chaotic environment.


Or maybe, they could have just left the guy alone, since he wasn't doing anything but mouthing off and filming them, neither of which is ground for arresting him.

again, the reasons for the arrest are completely irrelevant to the fact that the guy did not do his duty as a dog owner and was completely negligent
 
As far as I can tell the arrestee did nothing illegal. As I've said before he might have been acting like a tool for talking back to the officer and not lowering the radio but neither of those are arrestable offenses. Filming the scene is without doubt Constitutionally protected.

well, it has been reporting that he was blasting his music at an active crime scene and refused to turn it down when asked (this according to a neighbor). And while I likely hate cops mopre than you, I can recognize why having some asshole specifically causing such a commotion at an active crime scene could be defined as "disorderly conduct", "interfering with an investigation", or "disturbing the peace"

I'm really lost on why anyone would ignore these rather glaring elements to defend this ****-dick (the dog is just as capable of attacking a child or elderly person), but here we are
 
Why do they have to assume the worst, when he already showed that he was willing to comply and go peacefully with them? He wasn't being belligerent, he didn't struggle, and when asked to, he walked over to them, immediately turned around and put his hands behind his back, and let them cuff him.

Paranoid cops live longer. I don't like it but I understand it.
 
No, sorry, that's no excuse. If there was any evidence to support the fact that the guy was dangerous, I could agree with that, but there was none. That's just paranoia.
That's survival.

Let him go back to his car and your "evidence" could be him firing on you. I'm not risking my neck for someone's dog.
 
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