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Paula Deen Fired[W:223]

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rcart76 said:
Lol. I made a bet with a white co-worker who i work with to watch how many conservatives come to Paula Dean defense as this thread continues. I made me a cool 20 bucks... You guys never disappoint :D.

I actually like Paula Dean (at least her food :2razz:), but she is a recognize celebrity who represents a network. What do you think would happen.

Let place it in a environment where a black celebrity was fired. Remember Isaiah Washington when he starred in Greys Anatomy? He was one of the biggest stars on that show and a damn good actor. When he called his co-star a faggot, he lost his job on the show and basically haven't had a good role in years. But that is the consequences when you do stupid things.
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Wow, you proved that conservatives value free speech.

Good one, "homey".
 
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haymarket said:
My wife and I are something of foodies and watch a good deal of the Food Network. I have to say that Paula Deen was one of our least favorites personalities on the network. Her cooking method seems to make food as unhealthy as humanly possible and load it with as much fat as one can do without eating five pounds of pork belly.

Her views on her fellow humans are regrettable and her behavior is to be not tolerated by civilized people.

I am not unhappy to see her go.
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I like the Food Network too, but I always changed the channel when she came on. And that one extra show she had was even more unbearable.
 
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ChrisL said:
Just rub some butter on it. :lamo
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I cannot argue with that for taste. It makes almost everything better. :2wave:
 
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Yesterday I watched a marathon of BBQ Pitmasters. Wanna see some real cooks? There you go.

Paula Deen is just an old woman who takes a Betty Crocker recipe, throws in 2 pounds of lard, and serves it up to the cholesterol-laden masses.
 
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Josie said:
I like the Food Network too, but I always changed the channel when she came on. And that one extra show she had was even more unbearable.
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You have to wonder if her boys will survive this. Neither seems incredibly talented nor charismatic and you had to believe they were part of a package deal with Paula towing them behind like a ship towing smaller boats.
 
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haymarket said:
You have to wonder if her boys will survive this. Neither seems incredibly talented nor charismatic and you had to believe they were part of a package deal with Paula towing them behind like a ship towing smaller boats.
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I don't watch those shows either. It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in their house right now, though.
 
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haymarket said:
I cannot argue with that for taste. It makes almost everything better. :2wave:
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I think most things are okay as long as you use common sense and moderation. I'm sure that SOME butter is probably fine, as long as you don't overdo it.

I just had an annual physical a few months ago and had my cholesterol, blood sugar and thyroid functions checked, and everything was normal, and I do eat butter sometimes on toast and use it a lot for cooking.
 
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Gina said:
Moderator's Warning:
Kane, stop this and address the topic, which is not Hillary.
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WELL OK THEN ...

Paula Deen is a Nazi.

There, I said it.

(And so is Hillary Clinton) :mrgreen::peace
 
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Josie said:
I don't watch those shows either. It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in their house right now, though.
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One of her sons actually cooks very healthy. He actually takes his mother's recipes and substitutes ingredients to make them more healthy.
 
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sangha said:
the fact that her brother has admitted to inappropriate behavior was documented, as well as Paula having known about said behavior.
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Again, I quoted the exact post I responded to

Which clearly stated "she could utter racial slurs". You cited what her brother admitted to, and her admitting to having known about this, doesn't substantiate the *allegation * that she "utter(ed) racial slurs"
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Again, I quoted the exact post I responded to

Which clearly stated "she could utter racial slurs". You cited what her brother admitted to, and her admitting to having known about this, doesn't substantiate the *allegation * that she "utter(ed) racial slurs"
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The "she uttered racial slurs" comes in because in the transcript they ask her if she used the n-word when talking about the servers at the party she was planning. In the course of answering, she said she hadn't but admitted that at some point in the (presumed distant) past, she had probably used the word.

In the minds of some, that became conflated with why she was being sued. You had the chance to both inform someone and help keep the discussion on track. Instead, you chose to contribute to derailing the thread about some flaw that really has nothing to do with the lawsuit or FN's decision to not renew her contract

For all the differences we've had, I don't think I've ever called you stupid, and I don't think you are. So let me ask you something seriously:

Which is better - informing other posters of the relevant facts and helping to keep a discussion on track, or proving that someone on the Internet is wrong?

You should take responsibility for your posts. Just because someone else goes off on a tangent, that doesn't mean you have to follow them.
 
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sangha said:
The "she uttered racial slurs" comes in because in the transcript they ask her if she used the n-word when talking about the servers at the party she was planning. In the course of answering, she said she hadn't but admitted that at some point in the (presumed distant) past, she had probably used the word.

In the minds of some, that became conflated with why she was being sued. You had the chance to both inform someone and help keep the discussion on track. Instead, you chose to contribute to derailing the thread about some flaw that really has nothing to do with the lawsuit or FN's decision to not renew her contract
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Uhh, no, I actually pointed out that it was nothing but an allegation at this point, from my understanding, and for some reason you took issue with that and cited her brother as proof it was true ...

see here

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ed-w-223-a-post1061968274.html#post1061968274
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
Right, according to a civil suite




But the mere existence of a lawsuit doesn't exactly establish anything, while your above language seems to take a more affirmative view of the matter




right, and the court of public opinion is hardly fair, impartial or even rational. I mean, do you think people should be fired due a bunch of morons not knowing what a blackhole is?

As I
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Or getting fired for getting pregnant.
 
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sangha said:
So while we're here, I'll point out that she is not a silent partner, and I don't know where you got that idea from. Her testimony in the transcript shows that she was active in day to day operations.
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I just looked through every page here, and didn't see them posted (or at least clearly labeled)
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Uhh, no, I actually pointed out that it was nothing but an allegation at this point, from my understanding, and for some reason you took issue with that and cited her brother as proof it was true ...

see here

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ed-w-223-a-post1061968274.html#post1061968274
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Thank you for confirming my point, which you conveniently failed to include when quoting me

DiAnna mentions three things, including one that by itself would make the suit viable (ie sexual harrassment) and instead of addressing that, you picked one mistatement (about Paula herself "utter(ing) racial slurs") and used that to dishonestly misrepresent the situation as one where there was nothing " definitive supporting the plaintive in her civil case"

The fact is that there is plenty of facts which are "definitive" and "support the plaintiff in her civil case"

So basically, you've shown that you've been doing something even worse than what I've accused you of up until now. Not only are you focusing on posts which incorrectly claim that Paula has uttered racial slurs and failing to point out that the case does not hinge on whether or not she uttered them, but you are also using those mistaken claims to dishonestly argue that the plaintiff has nothing to support their civil case, which is nothing but an outright lie.

So I'll ask you again - Which is better: informing other posters of the relevant facts and helping to keep a discussion on track, or proving that someone on the Internet is wrong?
 
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ChrisL said:
I think most things are okay as long as you use common sense and moderation. I'm sure that SOME butter is probably fine, as long as you don't overdo it.

I just had an annual physical a few months ago and had my cholesterol, blood sugar and thyroid functions checked, and everything was normal, and I do eat butter sometimes on toast and use it a lot for cooking.
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You are a great deal better than me. I do love my butter and sauces and could never go low fat. Of course, that is why I have run 2,000 miles a year since 1976.
 
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sangha said:
Thank you for confirming my point, which you conveniently failed to include when quoting me

DiAnna mentions three things, including one that by itself would make the suit viable (ie sexual harrassment) and instead of addressing that, you picked one mistatement (about Paula herself "utter(ing) racial slurs") and used that to dishonestly misrepresent the situation as one where there was nothing " definitive supporting the plaintive in her civil case"
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is there anything to establish that she engaged in sexual harassment?

The fact is that there is plenty of facts which are "definitive" and "support the plaintiff in her civil case"
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1) Specific to her engaging in sexual harassment and using racial slurs?

2) being that I qualified my statement with reference to her past racial remarks, it seemed rather obvious what I was referencing. Sorry if you were confused

So basically, you've shown that you've been doing something even worse than what I've accused you of up until now. Not only are you focusing on posts which incorrectly claim that Paula has uttered racial slurs and failing to point out that the case does not hinge on whether or not she uttered them, but you are also using those mistaken claims to dishonestly argue that the plaintiff has nothing to support their civil case, which is nothing but an outright lie.
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Or you were confused and are now trying to justify that confusion...
 
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sangha said:
I've been through this with you before. It's not my job to find stuff for you.
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ok, but I'm pretty sure it was never posted here. Maybe you are confused again, and it was actually posted elsewhere?
 
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haymarket said:
You are a great deal better than me. I do love my butter and sauces and could never go low fat. Of course, that is why I have run 2,000 miles a year since 1976.
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I also substitute plain non-fat yogurt for some things that call for mayonnaise. Greek yogurt is the best to use because it's really thick. I use it mostly for creamy type dressings since it is kind of tangy. I wouldn't use it in tuna fish or anything though. :lol: I've used it for bleu cheese dressing, and it is delicious!
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
is there anything to establish that she engaged in sexual harassment?
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I have already explained that as an owner, involved in the day to day operation of the business, she was responsible for the work environment.

But once again, you're focusing on a detail instead of addressing the central issue.

1) Specific to her engaging in sexual harassment and using racial slurs?

2) being that I qualified my statement with reference to her past racial remarks, it seemed rather obvious what I was referencing. Sorry if you were confused
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1) As an owner, it doesn't matter if *she* made any racially or sexually inappropriate remarks.

2) I'm not confused at all. I clearly understand that you are focusing on proving that "someone on the internet is wrong", instead of focusing on the case itself
 
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